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Natalie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The word of God is a mystery; it is a HIDDEN treasure. What appears to be natural most often has a HIDDEN meaning.

Psalms 133:2 IT (the oil; the higher meaning is the HOLY SPIRIT) is like the precious ointment (when some one was called to do God's work they had their heads anointed with oil; which was the Holy Spirit, the WORKS OF GOD were performed by them through the power of the HOLY SPIRIT) that ran down on the beard; even Aaron's beard (Aaron was anointed as a high priest (but the true meaning is; Christ was always chosen to be our HIGH PRIEST, Aaron's beard is CHRIST): that (the oil, the anointing,the HOLY SPIRIT) went down to the skirts of his garments (WE ARE CHRIST GARMENTS; the anointing has come down to us; to make us PRIEST UNTO GOD)

Revelation 5:10 And (CHRIST) hast made us unto our God kings and priest, and we shall reign on earth.

it is not but I believe it is leading up to it, I believe it is the world system... the mark you cannot buy nor sell! cashless is ahead...save you have the mark!

Hi Lisa.

God is the righteous judge of all circumstances, His righteous judgment is not restricted by circumstances, time or anything else.

He gets it right every time!

That's why we trust him.

I hope that helps,

Hopefully someone else have something to add.

God bless you.

Hello Steven and friends. Now, perhaps the vaccine(s) as well as the coming of Covid worldwide, is a distraction or perhaps a test to our peace with God and man as born again believers and thereby needs to be considered with wisdom in our lives, while the mark of the beast has been on going and will come to completion in this age as man leaves his faith ahead of the return of God as Jesus and chooses by fear which is unbelief to buy and sell in His temple the lies of Satan for his cause (man and Satan). God will have Just and Holy vengeance in this matter like Jesus was able to when he entered the Temple with His holy yet tempered vengeance.

According to Isaiah 9:6, 12:2, 25:9, 43:11, 45:21-22, 54:5, Luke 1:68, John 8:24-27, 8:58, 10:28-30, 12:45, 14:6-9, 20:28, Acts 20:28, 2nd Corinthians 5:19, Ephesians 4:4-5, Colossians 2:9, 1st Timothy 3:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:18-19, Luke 24:47-49, and Acts 2:37, Acts 2:38 is the true Biblical plan of salvation. Further backed up by Acts 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:47-48, 19:2-6, and 22:16.

Hi Christine.

Any book store, certainly a bible book store. or order online.

This is an excellent opportunity to share your feelings.

God bless you

Hi Bob,

Obviously you took my post incorrectly. I'll try using Scriptures again.

I never said Christ and the Father was not a relationship. You brought this up. I never said Christ is the Father or the Father is Christ as it seems you took it. I know it's a Father Son relationship. Again John 10:30, John 14:11, John 17:21. Revelation 3:21. For a couple.

Some say the Father being in Christ means He left Heaven. God spoke from Heaven several times proving that false. Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 12:28.

Here are a couple stating the Spirit of Truth or Holy Ghost as He/Him: John 14:17, John 14:26. Putting the three in ONE as in 1 John 5:7.

As I've been trying to answer your questions though you seemed to have veered from mine. No one knows the depths and ways of God. He can do anything He wants. Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 55:8-9. Just like giving all His power and authority to His Son so we honor Him just as we honor the Father. Matthew 28:18, John 5:22-23. Not knowing your beliefs on this but no one can say Christ did not exist before He was born here. Christ Himself stated this and there are other Scriptures that back this up also. John 17:4-5. All I do is use the Scriptures. I have no private interpretation as that is not what the Scriptures are for. 2 Peter 1:20.

Nothing is falling apart for me. I've given you many Scriptural verses as I have not seen one from you. Also I really don't even know your motive for making the first post the other night. The reason I made the reply is because you said something about a "man made trinity doctrine". Which I showed you is not man made it's Biblical.

Still not getting into how many titles the Father and Son share. Not knowing if it would make any difference to you.

I'm not here to argue and don't take my post that way please. You may have your own view.

Again as I hope I've answered your questions. I'll just leave the one again.

Do you believe the Scriptures I've posted?

Thank you. God Bless.

James, that is indeed a creative interpretation I've never heard before. You claimed 'this is where your grave error starts', but have you considered if it's yours. The entire chapter is about the Word, who is Jesus, and the first 5 verses don't even change the subject in terms of the English. You could probably hand these first 5 verses to any English teacher in the world and they will know it's the same subject. Let's break it down...

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Subject: Word

2The same was in the beginning with God.

Subject: Word (because it says "The same was..." so it's the same Word)

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Subject: Word. In this language we are still talking about the same entity, unless there's an obvious change.

4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Subject: Word, and introduced a new synonym: the "light of men"

5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Subject: Word, using the new name "light"

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

Subject: John. See how when it changes subjects, it's obvious? There was a man... whose name was John.

So, if what you're saying is true about He/Him in v3 suddenly switching characters without warning, it's inconsistent with the rest of the writing.

Then in v6-7 it says that John came to witness to the Light who is the Word, and it only further confirms it's Jesus as in v14 it says the Word became flesh. I wonder how you would interpret that to fit your current belief?

Do you believe Jesus is Lord? Romans 10:9.

Do you believe the Lord is God as it says in John 20:28?

God bless...

Your blessing will bless your people in jesus name we pray amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know Christians need unity, but why did the KJV compare this with the ointment on Aaron's head that ran down to his garments? I know I'm thinking like a woman, but it has always bothered me that beautiful garments were made for Aaron to wear as Priest, but letting the oil drip on them seemed to be ruining the garments and making for a big washing job required for those garments. Does anyone have any spiritual insight into this verse in Psalm 133:2?

Well said Adam.in addition to your response n to all

There is One reason Hell is filled to the brim

and One reason Heaven has its occupants

The Gift of Freewill

But...its only a Gift,when used wisely.

a curse when not.

Everyone has the Freewill choice'

A' is life

B ' is deth

If a person does not choose A or B

then it defaults to B.

simply because A was not chosen (thru Freewill)

Psalms 147.3

He health the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.

This verse tells us that God ministers to us when we are brokenhearted-

And brings comfort and healing to our wounded hearts.

2 Corinthians 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort.

God is different than man.

"But God, who is from everlasting, who is holy and righteous all together, cannot and never will change, for He is only truth, and out of truth no change can come.

With God, there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning ( James 1:17)."

"...God is different; He is outnumbered, outclassed , set aside, rejected, and spoken evil of when it is suitable to man's cause, but when He comes to the earth again as a Judge, He will still be different. The masses will be facing One whom they rejected in life as incompatible, unreasonable, and not fair. He will be the only One to speak: "Well done, thou good and faithful servant...enter into the joy of thy lord" ( Matthew 25:21). "...depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23)."

written by a brother minister in 1981.

I agree, when Christ speaks....the words come from God his Father. Amen.

John 12:49

"For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."

John 14:10

"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

God bless

God Bless

You said: "The term "pre-existent" is an oxymoron" & "Noone has ever pre-existed oneself".

This is not so according to ( Jeremiah 1:4-5) Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

When a born-again believer dies, his soul goes immediately into the presence of the Lord.



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We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

2 Corinthians 5:8

King James Version

Senior I am so confused. Teachers are taught that Jesus is the word of OT/NT. Scholars disagree the same. It needs to be resolved.

It is a spiritual relationship.

1 Corinthians 2:14

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

John 4:24

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

God Bless

Adam, you said: "He, the Word, was also the light of men. I hope we agree on that. So far we have 2 different names/metaphors used to refer to Him."

This is where your grave error starts. The "Him" and "He" in John 1:3,4 is refering to God. Not the Son of God or the mythological god the son. The Word is God and God is a Spirit. Just like you have your word. Your word is not another person from you. It is you. When you speak, it is you who speaks, not a co equal person.

God did not become a man, he is not a man. But God was manifest in the flesh, he came in the flesh.

You misunderstand, Chris. Of a truth, the word was put into the mouths of many men. But none of these men (except one) were the only begotten Son of God. god the son is a fable and does not exist. God (the Word) was in Christ. God put his words in the mouth of his Son. Jesus said that the words he spake were not his own, but his Father's.

Hi Chris ,ive always thought that people burned bodies rather than have wild animals dismember and eat them ,if there is some where like a secure cave etc near by obviously you would use that ,i think it helps to remember the times and places and limited resources people had ,i would rather my loved ones body was burned that eaten by lions ! Once the fire was out and the soft parts consumed the bones could be buried latter in a safe place ,just my thoughts ,a bit morbid ! Sorry.

The work is huge and as a worker, we must do our best to be the best. You have to be punctual in the house of God.

There must be difference between workers and students.

The workers were given talents to do business. we can see three main things:

1. Integrity - it is practice of being honest and consistence to principle tenent of faith. You must show uncompromising deal on the call of leadership

2. Stewardship - obligation of exercising the talent God has given to you.

3. Growing and developing

As a worker, we must use our talent judiciously

Hello Roger. Hebrews directly connects to the previous chapter, a chapter which is generally referred to as the 'Gallery of Faith Heroes'. In there, as you would know, is a lengthy description of some well known Old Testament saints, of their faith, their love for God in spite of the many troubles they faced. But all these "received a good report through faith" but did not receive the promise: "God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect." ( Hebrews 11:39,40). They might have known the promises of God & certainly knew of God's Presence & Power with them, yet those Promises did not find their fulfillment in their lifetimes. But they continued undeterred IN FAITH, knowing that God had something special that lay ahead for them.

So then chapter 12 comes into focus (for us). Seeing then that we are surrounded by such a great (eminent) group of witnesses, how are we to behave. So departing from the personal exhortation the Hebrews writer gave in chapter 10:22-25 towards holy living, he now implores us by the witness of these saints of old. Here, it is difficult to discern whether the writer believed that we have all these sages looking down upon us & our behaviour, or more likely, that we have yet another imperative to godly living because of the lives that these men & women lived, in spite of the odds against them. They didn't even consider their lives of any worth in comparison to what God had for them in the afterlife.

Hebrews 12:1,2 then reminds us that we not only have these great examples of faith, of perseverance & resilience before us, but even much more than all this, we have JESUS, Who not only is the Designer, the Forerunner & Completer of (our) Faith, but the One Who took the meaning of suffering to its fullest extent (much more than what those in chapter 11 had done), in that He willingly laid down His Life for us. "He Who knew no sin became sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him".

God is greater than our feelings.

I and my father are one , that's a relationship.

Do you know what a relationship is ?

Husband and wife are one .

So it's starts falling apart for you right at the start .

Can you prove that the father and son are not a relationship?

To Deborah Kuradal on Romans 8: God is perfect in masculinity. Jesus called Him His Father. Jesus even said, "Who is my mother, or by brother, or my sister...but they who do the will of My Father. God is not a man that He should lie. He is our Creator and God. Thank you Heavenly Father! Holy to the LORD!

John 1.18

No man hath seen God at any time ; the only begotten Son , which is in the bosom of the father , he hath declared him .

This verse explains why Jesus knows God so well , like no other man . Jesus begotten of God , And a relationship so close and dear to God . Jesus came from God and maintained a relationship in the bosom of God. Now that is about as close as you get in a relationship. A father and Son relationship. And a relationship with God all the more remarkable and unique. Obviously Jesus had to be of the same spirit as God or this would be impossible.

Some good for thought ?

John 10:30 I and my Father are ONE.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE.

Do you believe these Scriptures? As I could put more titles that both Jesus Christ and LORD(from the OT) share if you'd like.

There is no trinity "doctrine". That is what is in the Holy Bible. Trinity is just a word of tri/three + unity= trinity. Jesus Christ is ONE with God the Father and so is the Holy Ghost.

And in those days, the Chosen One will sit on his Throne, and all the Secrets of Wisdom will flow out from the council of His mouth, for the Lord of Spirits has appointed Him and glorified Him.

So as you are a man are you trying to explain God yourself? All we do is read the Scriptures.

Hi Richard, I wonder whether you're referring to Exodus 4:10,11. These verses do seem to imply that God specifically creates some (in the womb) to have defective organs or other impediments. He is after all the Creator of all people & things & so has the right to do as He pleases. However, the question: why would God then create a new life with such physical or mental problems? Is it simply sufficient to say that 'He has every right to do so?"

Apart from the above, I see two other aspects to this dilemma: we are all born in corrupt sinful flesh. Even though an embryo cannot be classed as one having committed any sin, its very state, being formed out of the seed of sinful man & woman, already consigns it to an existence (whether in the womb or outside), into a sinful state. And secondly, the Ways & Plans of God are unknown to us. We don't know how God uses such people so afflicted in various ways; whether to glorify Him, to lead them to Himself, or to touch other lives through their infirmity. We usually see the suffering of the one afflicted & ask 'why has God allowed this to happen'?, yet we remain ignorant to the Purposes of God in doing so & for the one afflicted to still return praises to Him in spite of it all.

Here in Exodus chapter 4, we see Moses with a speech impediment; in John 9:1-3 (a man born blind); Mark 7:31-34 (deaf man & with a speech impediment); Acts 3:1-3 (lame man) are a few examples. Then we have babies born with disabilities from no fault of the parents, or maybe because of something ingested by the mother (e.g. Thalidomide when taken during pregnancy for anxiety & morning sickness). All these are the results from what we are as humans or what God has allowed for His Own reasons. What is more important is how we accept our lot in life, how we can be useful to others in some way, & whether through it we are reminded of our own weaknesses & sins & therefore run to the Saviour for spiritual healing & hope, & strength to live through each day.