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Dear "Sis Smith", you have probably read on in the same chapter.

There you get the answer dear friend. If there are issues that are uncertain for someone, it does not help and get help with it either. You can not go further than is given from Lights Father, in peace i say this.

Today I received words from 2 Peter 3: 14-18. So the proposal is that u take it up with the Lord Jesus. 1 John 1:5-10.

Now i have met many Christians from different denominations and some ladies are wearing a shawl. Whether it's important to them is their business. Sometimes i can feel that i am being pressured into it, then i also put something over. In joy i do so that others may be strengthened by my humility. But it is also through sorrow that the Holy Spirit is grieved by all the inventions of men. Your question is still open and some ppl here on the web may be able to answer you.

He constantly prays for us without delay, rest assured. Be blessed in Jesus Name, love u in Christ.

Hi Gigi , good to know that u r ok . Thanks for your reply and info . I'm not much of a one for looking things up on the internet , especially when it comes to religion . As far as I'm concerned , we r all reading the same Bible and none of us knows anything that can't b known by anyone else . I read things on here that I don't agree with but I don't say anything , we r all on learning curve , none of us knows everything there is to know about the Bible . I going to b honest though I don't wish to offend u or anyone else , I'm over sensitive when it come to feeling that some one is being singled out and picked on . I'm not accusing u or anyone and people can pick on me all day and it will wash right over me . However , i get very protective over others . One whiff of some one being made to feel unwelcome or singled out for negative attention and my hackles go up . Over a couple of years I've read everyone on here and found out who I gel with and who I don't . I read the ones I like and ignore the ones I don't . It saves me a lot of stress that's for sure . I'm sorry but I shall always jump in and defend if I feel some one is getting a rough deal , it's my nature , nothing personal , it's just who I am . I hope to can understand this . I'm glad u r ok and back on here .

Dear "Douglas L Walker". He hears your prayer. Pray blessed in His name Jesus, love you in Christ.

1 John 3:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Hello Herbert. The whole book of Micah contains God's Message, primarily to Judah, but also concerning Israel. Was there something in particular that you were thinking of? I can give you a brief breakdown of the Book, as you go through it yourself.

1. Micah 1:1. The following prophecy that God gave to Micah.

2. Micah 1:2-2:13. God's Message of destruction for Samaria & Judah.

3. Micah 3:1-5:15. Message of coming judgements on the rulers, false prophets, & on Jerusalem (3:1-12). Of deliverance (in the coming Kingdom): 4:1-5:1. This deliverance by the coming King, both in His first & second comings (5:2-15).

4. Micah 6:1-7:10. God's two Messages of Denunciation & Israel's two replies to God.

5. Micah 7:11-20. Blessings for Israel.

Keeping those general headings in mind, you may find that re-reading the Book will help you to see the various messages that God had for Judah & Israel by his prophet Micah.

Hi Johnny. Just to add to Rod's great list, & the chapter in the middle of his Matthew references; I would refer you to Jesus' parable about the Kingdom of Heaven in Matthew 25:1-13. That His Kingdom compose those who are ready & eagerly awaiting their Lord's return. They knew the 'bridegroom' was coming, some were ready, others were not.

Today, there are some 'Christians' who don't take their faith seriously & may even have one foot in the world, hoping that there will still be time ahead to set things right before the Lord. But no one can know the day of their death or the day of the Lord's Return; readiness & holy living are hallmarks of the child most beloved of the Lord. And when Jesus comes for us, "we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming" ( 1 John 2:28).

Hello Kay. Just in connection with Romans 8:20-22, the Greek word used is the same in all three instances, viz. 'ktisis', & this refers to 'creation'. Where 'creature' is written, parts of the creation are intended, which parts include all living creatures, flora, & anything else that has been affected by the fall & general corruption because of it.

All of creation awaits that glorious day of resurrection of the saints & the installation of Christ's Rule on the Earth; a time when Satan will be bound, sin will not abound, & all creation will have respite as Christ's Presence & Glory instigates much worldwide renewal. Though my understanding is that all will not be fully realized until the entrance of the new heavens & earth when all things will be manifest as per God's original Plan.

And I would agree with Rose; I don't believe that anything other than mankind are redeemable as God's creation of man is totally unique in every way, spirit, soul & body. Of the 'horses' we see in the Revelation, I understand that to be graphic imagery given to John (as in the beasts that rise out of the sea & earth), & do not depict actual animals or that there are stables & fields in Heaven. John was given much vision & information that would be too difficult to understand & relate, unless such 'pictures' were given him, but of course, these images were to clearly relate to their tasks & ensuing events. Of course, many will have their opinions from the reading of these passages, which makes no particular interpretation certain.

Hello Grae, I took a week off of posting by prompting from the Holy Spirit, so I hope you didn't think I ignored this post. I was just waiting for the week to be up to respond. As I stated before, the church I am speaking of is not a particular denomination. I am speaking of the Christian Church in general from the 1st century up to now. I hope this answers your question.

The topic I was addressing with Alex is about God impregnating believers with his spiritual seed to bring forth a baby Christ or baby Holy Ghost or that we become a baby Christ or a baby Holy Ghost or that God does this to replicate or multiply Himself in believers.

This teaching goes against what God has stated adamantly throughout Scripture that He alone is God and there is, has been, and will be no other gods (created beings) beside Himself. Also, I do not see this narrative of Alex's proclaimed in Scripture anywhere. Neither has the church through the ages affirmed such a narrative as legitimate doctrine, rather that anyone who claims that they can become 'god' in any way is speaking heresy. That is my position.

I have been studying up on these statements of Alex's to see what reputable sites have to say about these views. If you want to find out, I suggest exploring the ideas on sites like CARM, Got Questions, Bible ask, and others. You can google:

Theosis

'Little gods"

Spirit of Sonship/Adoption

Partakers of the divine nature

You will find that those who think like Alex are usually among the Pentacostal, Word of Faith, non-denominational charismatic church groups. Those who oppose it comprise the overwhelming majority of Christian denominations active today.

I suggest that you look at articles from both sides and compare the ideas to Scripture like I have in the past (because this view has been going around some portions of the groups I mentioned since 1948, but especially ramped up in the 70's and beyond).

I studied up on it then and found this teaching heretical, as I do now

S. Spencer again

I would love to hear you ideas concerning this.

I know that God has said multiple times in Scripture that He alone is God and there is, never has, never will be, any other. He says that He will not share His glory with another god (which would be a created being). So, to claim that believers become gods or divine contradicts what God has clearly stated strongly time and time again.

I do think that the fact of our union in Christ is the only basis for us to partake of His divine nature but we do not acquire His ontological essence. Only He possesses that solely within the Godhead. There are no more divine persons added to the Godhead.

When we get married, we enter a union with our spouse, but we still remain our essential selves. These selves are not mixed together to form a third self (except in the conception of a child). But as for the two spouses our beings are not fused together nor infused into the other. If that were so, a divorce would tear this new single entity in two. That doesn't happen.

So, being in union with Christ does not mean we mix our being with Christ's being to become one new mixed being, eliminating the individual persons of the original two.

In a similar vein, in Christ's Being, both the divine nature and human nature are unified in one Person, but not mixed together to form one God/human nature in place of the two individual natures. Christ is unique. He alone possesses both a divine and human nature. We are only human by nature and will continue to be only human by nature into eternity, however glorified and made incorruptible like the human nature of Jesus in heaven. I think it is blasphemous to claim that any created being can ascend to become divine. The reality is that God the son in humility incarnated in human flesh taking on its nature, but still remaining divine, too. This was an immense condescension on His part.

I am interested in how you view this topic. It is very concerning to me to hear

Hello Mr. Spencer, I am doing well. I was just prompted by the Holy Spirit to take a week off of posting. I 've been reading posts this week and keeping up with the prayer requests without posting until today. It was good to see a few others posting their prayer support for requests this past week and to see some new posters on the discussion page. I love that.

My husband and I began a new outdoor project last weekend and it will most likely take us into April to finish. I have been occupied with this outside each day since the weather has been fair.

Also, I have been researching the ideas Alex repeatedly posts about the Seed of God impregnating believers to bring about a birth of a baby Christ or Holy Spirit in believers, or that this pregnancy replicates or multiplies God, or that this pregnancy makes us into baby Jesus' or baby Holy Spirit. My exchange with him was my last post last week and since I told him once again that I consider these views heretical, I though I should study his views more to see where they come do come from. I am aware of the "little gods" "sonship" and :manifest sons of God" heresies and perhaps that is where he gets this theology.

But I wanted to see if it is being taught in another setting other than this, as I am not aware of any church that holds orthodox theological views on this that teaches as Alex or these other "movements" do. I am aware that the concept of "theosis" (deification of humanity) has been taught in the church since early times, but these teachings do not teach that we acquire God's essential deity, but rather his communicated divine character attributes such as love, patience, wisdom, etc. These teachings do teach that we partake of the divine nature as 2 Peter 1:4 states, but again our nature does not change from human to divine, rather due to our union with Christ, we are privileged to share in what Jesus has by this union. Our human nature is not mixed with His divine nature (this is impossible). Thanks.

That's a hard topic; and it's one that no 'doctrine' can really be formed on, actually. Solomon, known for wisdom, said in Eccl. 3:21 -

Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Jesus comes back on a horse - and His armies with Him, the Bible said. Jesus said that the Father was with the sparrows when they fall; why would He bother?

Romans 8 is also is interesting:

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Lots to think about! :) We will be so surprised, and so amazed, at what the Lord will yet do, that's for sure! :)

I will respond to your second question. I was in the Catholic church; I was baptized as an infant, and was involved in that false church till I was 30 years old. The Lord gloriously saved me - and when He did, I realized immediately that there was a lot wrong; and the more I read His word, the more I understood it was and is a false 'church', and left. I attended a Bible-believing church after that for many years, but little by little, that church took a 'seeker-friendly' direction, and the Holy Spirit prompted me to leave. After that, to shorten this story, I was in several other churches, which either ended going 'seeker-friendly', or 'ecumenical' or some other wrong direction. Each time it was time to move, the Holy Spirit led me out - for He leads us into all TRUTH. The most important thing is to follow the Holy Spirit and heed that leading! The Lord will never leave His own in error! Don't follow man, but follow the Spirit of the living God, and be in the Word constantly, hiding it in your heart daily! Blessings!

I have nothing to offer but what the Lord graciously gives me, Suze, All glory to Him!! Praise Jesus!

If I can, by His grace, be a blessing to His lambs, it just makes my day! To hear you were encouraged by what the Lord put in my heart to share with you and the rest of the forum is a huge blessing. But again - the glory goes to Jesus! He places the Bread in my 'hands' - I'm just the one who happens to pass it along! :)

I remember I heard a visiting preacher once say, when the church clapped as they welcomed him into the pulpit: "How foolish it would have been for the donkey who was carrying Jesus to think all the Hosanna's were for her!" :) We are, after all, only the 'donkeys' who carry the presence of Jesus to others! He is worthy of all praise, at all times!

I'm sorry I'm late in responding. My computer time is often limited due to other duties. But I will check back as I can! It's so good to hear from you!

The Lord bless thee and make HIS face to SHiNE upon you, Suze!

hopefully this is what you're asking for, but there is also a few more you will find throughout the NT.

Matthew 24:27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Matthew 26:64 "Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven."

Mark 14:62 "And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven."

Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

Acts 1:9-11, "Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Di God gives a message to Micah for Isreal?

Check revelations you might find it there

First Question: What are the seven churches by name, and what does it mean to know of them?

Question: What of those faithfully believe in Jesus, but are innocently lead/deceived by the wrong church?

(Not Duplicate)

As proof that Matthew 7:12:

12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

is a restatement and probable expansion of our obligations under the second great commandment, Matthew 22:36-40 says:

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The end of verse Mt 7:12 and Mt 22:40 are basically identical.

Jesus never made any statement like that when he referred to Leviticus 24:20, which in its full context in Leviticus 24:17-22 reads:

17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. 18 And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast. 19 And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; 20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again. 21 And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death. 22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

This law was never given under the Law as the basis for vigilante vengence where individuals take matters into their own hands, but always fell on the entire covenant community under the Law to bring before judges that called for witness testimony before any sentences were passed or carried out. Also, any sentence that were be carried out as a result of this law against any stranger must equally be carried out on any member of the covenant community for the same offense to uphold the name of the LORD our God. So, take great care and don't apply it lightly.

Oh Ashley. I am sorry for your Grandma's passing. But it is really wonderful that you and your family got to visit with her before then. God overcame some big obstacles to bring this about. We can be thankful for that. I hope you had a chance to speak of Go and His ways with her.

When my mother in law died, I was not sure of her "salvation status". and fretted a bit, as she died suddenly a few states away from us. But I remembered that Scriptures does say that the God of the whole earth will judge rightly. So I knew that i needed to just release all that concern to God and let Him handle what happened to her after her death. In this life, we pray and speak to those we love of the salvation that is in Christ Jesus. But it is really God's work that saves and we can know that in this life we take every opportunity that God provides to speak of Jesus to those in our spheres and then when death comes, we commit those we know to God.

May your family be comforted and share good memories of your grandmother at this time. it is good that you have one another to share this all with, as it is difficult and sorrowful. Be blessed today, Alisa.

I'm not going to go around in circles with u or anyone on this sight . I was a bit snippy with u earlier and I was wrong to be so , i apologise for that and wish u well and may God continue to bless u .

Dear Grammy, I am so sorry that you and your son are both suffering from depression. It can be so debilitating.

I will pray for you today.

Dear Lord Jesus, We ask today for You to deliver both Grammy and her son from depression and restore within each of them a right spirit that speaks sound words to their inner selves. We ask that You overcome the evil that is bringing this oppression upon them and send all evil away from them. Bring a total healing of their souls, hearts, and minds from this awful depression. Have mercy upon them, Lord, and make them whole once in You once again. Fill them to overflowing with Your Holy Spirit. We ask this today in Your name Jesus. Amen.

Dear Ankah,

I will pray for you today.

Lord Jesus, We ask for Your strong intervention in Ankah's life to defeat this demonic influence and cast it out of Ankah today. Lord Jesus, we know that You have authority over all of these evil ones, so we trust You now to remove this evil from Ankah entirely, never to return to him. Lord, we also pray that you will strengthen Ankah in faith by Your grace through Your Holy Spirit. May Your Spirit cleanse him and fill him up totally. May he walk daily in Your presence moment by moment and grow in his knowledge of You through the reading of Your Word and the fellowship of believers. We ask these things in Your name, Jesus. Amen.

So he didn't say : my God why hast thou forsaken me ? That's what quoting is .

In first Corona level chapter 26 verse he talks about your head should be covered is that's for the preacher's hair to be cover and he also talk about taking a sacrament is that's for only the men's to take the Sacramento and not the women is

To Russell Naylor animals do not go to heaven.....they have no soul like humans

Amen to that , Isaiah Ch 29 V 18-24 .

I misspoke and said verse 20 instead of verse 22. I had always seen the idea of preparation and waiting in verse 20 before, but I hadn't see it in verse 22 until our discussion.

For me personally, laying out the parallelism as I have is actually what allowed me to see aspects of Verse 20 as a period of preparation and waiting and also prior to that I myself overlooked Psalm 110:1 and it's importance as a possible source of comfort.

I know you continue to say inverse parallelism is not necessary to understand the verse, and it may not be for people like yourself. But the things I wrote about regarding Psalm 110:1 did not come from anything you wrote about the verse and the importance of that reference never occurred to me prior to laying the verse out as I had. I doubt I would ever have been able to see or express those ideas as clearly or as confidently as I just did without viewing these 4 verses in this way, since I never had before. Additionally, Free's comment suggests that he gained new insights by considering the verse as I had laid it out that he had previously not considered. So from my perspective it has not been unprofitable to view the verses in this light, even if it is not necessary for others like you to do so.

Still I have to also consider that without our discussions on this verse I might have missed the Psalm 110:1 connection as well, since that also inspired me to trace out ideas that were only a vaguely expressed intuition about that aspect of the verse before. So iron continues to sharpen iron, and brothers coming at a verse from different perspectives can lead to a greater shared understanding through a respectful discussion, even if both continue to differ in their approaches. That is comforting to me as well.

So I have no problem with you continuing to say chiasmus is unnecessary for these verses, since we are agreed that Peter's teaching on baptism are a great source of comfort for suffering Christians, both in its internal comfort with regard to their consciences and the assurance it brings that the external forces opposing them can be endured with a certain hope for the future that they will prevail.

Thank u alot

I am searching for bible verses that point me to where Jesus said to be in the look out for his 2nd return. I need help. Thank you.

Actually Jesus was fulfilling prophecy , not quoting psalm 22 .

Good on finding psalm 22 it applies.