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not saying door mat but genuine humbleness of mind. Instead a lot of so called Christians have a self righteous attitude
and with unbelievers if you don't believe your going straight to hell. Show me that kind of mind set with Jesus Christ in
the Gospels and I'LL EAT THE BOOK. Now when it came to those in power yes he called it the way it is, but to those who
came to Him with genuine heart to be delivered they got delivered. The way I see it judge not for thou shalt be judged,
and above all walk in love because that's what delivered me. Also consider 2 COR. 4:4 WHO HAS THEM BLINDED the same
god that did the same to me. Bottom line our occupation we plant we water but GOD GIVES THE INCREASE. BELIEVERS
AND I'M SAYING PEOPLE I KNOW tell me how evil the gov. and people in office are well their people and so were we. My
bible says to pray for those in office not ridicule but doctrine. We who choose stand and walk must stay on mark to
not let Gods love in us wax cold Math 24:12 because it was the LOVE OF GOD that delivered us and melted the hardness
in hearts so lets endeavor to keep it soft and as Ephesians 4:32 tenderhearted thats the goal that will deliver oithers if they
choose to believe and continue to make us whole. We already know everything in this world will wax or become worse and
worse so my mind endeavors to think about things above Col.3:1-5 because that's all that really counts.
The first thing that comes to mind, is a need from the Holy One! Only He knows what we need and when! If I know these things, then I should be happy!
Maybe Im not as happy as I should or could be ,and if not why?
The things around us are changing all the time. Are we consumned it seems with that which is past, and present, thinking somehow in this life, we should be happier than what we are? Are these the signs of the times? Or, are these thoughts the consequences of abiding in Him? Are these the offences that He speaks that will come too those who worship Him?
Are these things of the spirit of God!
So, How do we get to that place? Tell me How!
How do we get to the place where this Holy One will take our place, will become one with us? I hear the prophets and apostles words, I see Jesus walking and healing, and yet I am not filled! Maybe, I am not saved?
How can I know this love that passes all understanding? Must I be touched? Is it true that this corruption must put on incorruption? Why can we not experiance this incorruption now? I hear the voices! I hear the questions, I sence that these wish to see Him , this one called the WORD! Cry out! Cry out, for ourredemption draws nigh.
If you are in this place, than you are in Him! Love one another in all things, for the evil one has come and desires your soul!
Watch! I say watch! Repent and be Baptized
There is only one Gospel and that is the Lord Jesus Christ is God. I have no idea what those people you mentioned because I tend to Listen to God and God alone. I humbly say successful peace and joy are feelings I have within. My life experiences can also attest to it. Despite illnesses, God gives me joy and hope whether I live long or be taken away. The entire Bible is a magnificent Book-Old and New Testament. The best God ever given to human to know the real deal what really happened-History, Geography, Mathematics, Science, Economics, Political Science, English Literature, etc. If I were the King of the day, I will build a school with the foundation ONLY based on pure KJV Bible. Now I can say that in retrospect after going through all my highest educational experiences. I know we have been dumb down by men, but I am so very happy we have a God that is greater than man. I will leave you with Malachi 4:2-3 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts. Peace to you and Glory to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Totally agree with you. Evil in this world is more prominent than ever. I was actually close to death twice: one I was drowning with my own water and my organs are shutting down; next my heart totally stops due to COVID. I can attest to you that there is indeed heaven and hell. I can't understand the urgency for me to re-read the Bible until I found this site. I noticed the mixture of frustrations and anger and love comments. I know in my heart these people seek truth. I also know that these people believe in Jesus Christ's Life, death and resurrection according to the scriptures. I do not understand is that we are reading the same Bible KJV and one says something and another person says different. Are we not one in God? The only explanation is that people listen to man. Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Only listen to God. For example: Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Are we not understanding English? If I tell you, you are Richard and upon this rock I will build my church. Does it make sense to say you built the church? No. The rock is Jesus Christ. It tells you the story of Moses hitting the rock to flow waters for them to drink. It is a prophetic sign for Jesus Christ. That is why you read the whole chapter then a few verses down, there is reason why Jesus called Peter a Satan. We do not listen to man. Period. Now Jesus fulfilled ALL in ALL. We the believers of Jesus Christ's blood are even more powerful because we have the Holy Spirit. For 2,000 years we are led by man. We are at the end of grace whether you are old age close to death, with terminal illness, unavoidable or unfortunate accident to end our lives, or the so-called rapture. WE NEED ONLY LISTEN TO GOD
We are warned by Christ that if an army comes with more men then we have; we have to assess our strength and plan accordingly. ( Luke 14:31). Since Satan is the "god of this world" ( 2 Cor. 4:4) and Christ never disputed with him about being given authority over the Kingdoms of the earth ( Luke 4:6) we only have 3 options. Namely; to either worship Satan; surrender to Him; or operate in the power of the Holy Spirit through Christ who has overcome hell and the grave and who exercises all authority over heaven and earth. ( Matt. 28:18).
The scope of Satan's rulership; therefore is interwoven throughout the world governments; institutions; and hierarchy. It is entangled throughout every false religion of the earth. The imaginations of men are blinded to the Gospel truth; and his desires are always to lead men to their destruction by giving them delusions that they can hold onto their possessions; loved ones; or positions in life forever. God therefore must do a miraculous transformation when one is "Born Again" so that they realize that they were headed for eternal damnation on the wide road until the narrow path was revealed to them. Satan himself can certainly fear Christ and knows that he is defeated; but there is no love for Him. If he can continue to control our lives after salvation and render us ineffective; we stand to lose our rewards and therefore risk an early departure from this life ( 1 Cor. 11:30).
Therefore; the war is won but many battles continue. We can be as Christ trusting God the road He has predestined for us in order to complete the works for us prepared from before creation ( Eph. 2:10). Pain and suffering are all necessary even though none of us can grasp it fully. As long as we are walking in the Spirit Satan cannot affect our soul. If we allow sin in any part of our lives; however God can and does use the enemy to oppress us. He can allow physical affliction as well as we see with Paul (2Cor12:8
At this point; all bets are off. Jesus has to deal with the hearts of Pharisees; with their thoughts; or comments about Him using the Devil's (Beelzebub) power to cast out demons; and to the crowd in general saying that they are an "evil generation" seeking a sign (v. 29); then warning about light being darkness in us (or Satan appearing as an angel of light).
Finally; in verse 38 we see what would be considered (to say the least) bad manners after an invite to a meal. A simple concept of lack of handwashing which seemed trivial ended up in a railing accusation to the hypocrisy within for Pharisees in general. Then; to add insult to injury after He was informed that the lawyers were insulted He went after them!
(I would imagine there was a lot of indigestion there at that time).
The concept of righteous indignation especially among "religious" folks today seems like an ancient artifact. If judgment begins at the house of God; who is sounding the trumpet today?
Our beautiful America has become another Sodom and Gomarrah....And our leaders love it so....They say we must be politically correct ....God have mercy on this nation and all the world.
......ALL the world is becoming another Sodom and Gomarrah....And satan is the father of it....As Jesus said that Satan is the Father of all lies...GB...Plead the BLOOD of Jesus on all your Children every day....His blood is that New COVENANT that we all have to drink...Spiritually speaking...GB
......Satan is truly the God of this present world....Even at this present time we are all taken with the things of this world.
.......But the GOOD NEWS is Christ that 2 nd adam has died for ALL THE WORLD.....He paid the price for every body.
........Many times i think about the 6.5 million JEWS that died in Hitlers death Camps....Satan is truly the God of this present
WORLD.....In Adam we all die but in Christ Jesus we will ALL LIVE....There is a new COVENANT ON THE HORIZON WHICH
STATES " I WILL KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST) ...When that Book is opened in the Fathers right hand...
.....Any way Carl thank you for that post GBU in Jesus name.
Theoretically, yes. Practically, it is the leadership (government), however small numerically, who has the power & the resources to back it up. Generally, the populace hasn't got the will, stamina, or firepower to withstand a govt. At times, coups have been mounted, some successful, most others, not so. But for the preservation of life & family and lack of equivalent or greater ordnance, most would rather be subjected to despotic regimes or at best, attempt flight.
I don't think any nation has ever seen a righteous government, which upholds the Laws of God, abhors evil, metes out true justice & shows true compassion. Governments are as wicked as the people whom they're supposed to serve and I believe, will have a lot more to answer for in that day of reckoning.
As you've shared a great overview of this, one also notices that practically every aspect of life that we might face, has been the experience of Jesus & that He has given each person who has so suffered or being challenged, His full Attention & Help in their matters.
His holiness of Life & richness of His Words gives us today great comfort & joy, knowing that not only we can fully rely on His Guidance & Help, but that His human experiences with the people of His Day, with their sicknesses & sufferings, also reveal His Understanding & Compassion to us now who maybe so overcome.
As we read in Hebrews 2:18, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted"; this must speak volumes to us of the LORD God coming into humanity, experiencing our struggles, so that we might be truly helped, not by "an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities", but by "a merciful & faithful high priest". No high priest of old could ever fill the shoes of our Great High Priest, eternal in the heavens, ever interceding for us.
And for you dear brother, that the Wisdom & Grace of our Lord be with you in your matters with your family & ministry aspirations. We remain in prayer that the way before you will be made abundantly clear.
Heavenly Father, I ask that You will calm down Mae's digestive system and end the discomfort and ill feelings from this upset of this body system. Strengthen her immune system to fight against the "bug" that is bothering her body today and let her sleep restfully without discomfort all night. I ask this of You, Father, in the name of Your Son, Jesus, Amen.
For this reason this verse seems difficult to me, in that, it stands out like a sore thumb in the midst of Paul's dealing with the subject of the resurrection, & there's little else surrounding the verse to help us know what Paul was referring to. Obviously, the Corinthians knew what he was writing about - we can only make educated guesses (& very valid), as seen in this thread.
I note your understanding that "the dead" refers to Jesus, though I'm still a little hesitant that Paul would have expressed it as he did, if he meant only to a crucified & buried Jesus; almost seems too crude when speaking about the awful death of our Lord. In the chapter, he generally refers to the Person of Christ - so then why refer to Him as "the dead"? Certainly, Jesus would have been his primary focus in this verse, but the wording seems to suggest that both Jesus & believers who die, must arise from the grave based on Christ's resurrection. Or else, believing & being baptized which identifies one with Christ's burial & resurrection, is totally worthless ( 1 Corinthians 15:16-18).
As you wrote, maybe the Lord will 'reveal to us the precise meaning of that verse'. I know that getting a grip on this verse may not be an issue for most Christians, but to those studying in depth or even teaching it, we need to come to grips with it & sense the Spirit's Help & Affirmation. Blessings to you.
In Genesis 2:2-3, God completed his creation by making the Sabbath holy and this sanctification and the blessing of the Sabbath then became a seventh day of rest.
Because God rested from all his works in creation, God's command of the 7th day of rest was also promulgated in the Mosiac Law that all Jews followed. See Exodus 20:8-11. This 7th day of rest or the Sabbath falls on a Saturday, which usually begins on sunset, instead of a Sunday evening. Throughout the Old Testament period, Jews have always congregated in their synagogues every Sabbaths (every Saturday evenings), for worship and hearing of the Law. The Sabbaths is based on the lunar calendar, and not the on the solar calendar. In the New Testament, we see Jesus in the synagogue as He was reading publicly the scroll of Isaiah,which spoke of the fulfillment of Jesus 'ministry. Jesus of course met on the Sabbath day( Saturday).
See Luke 4: 16-21. Noticed that on verse 16 of Luke, Jesus went to the synagogue just like any Jews of his time. It was customary. And certainly it was on a Sabbath day. There is one reference in scripture that mentioned Paul in Acts, about the monetary collection for the church on the first day of week. See Acts 16:1-2. Honestly, I think these verses speaks about the Sabbath where they assembled was on Saturday but never on Sunday.. because the Jewish calendar is carefully counted when the next Pentecost would be. (See Acts 16:8) so this all makes sense when we read the content of scripture regarding the Sabbath in a more precise understanding of the factual truth about the Sabbath day.
It was Constantine who changed the Sabbath Saturday into the "Sabbath " Sunday in 321 AD. It was a decree for all Roman Christians to rest back in the early days of Roman Christianity in the Roman Empire. Centuries later in 1582 the pope that you mentioned, changed the chronological timing of the solar calendar that we now have today with Sunday as the official Sabbath.
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the famine that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to their historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the drought that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.
If there was any viability to there historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.
Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.
This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.
This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.
Thank you for your respone, but from a research I did, I found out that at least the ancient pagan Greeks (don't Know about other nations at that time) didn't baptize for/in the name of the dead. There wasn't such a practice for it to enter Christianity later on. So the explanation of that verse should be looked for somewhere else. I think Brother Chris' explanation sounds reasonable enough, as well as other ones.
GBU
It is a good thing to start at the beginning and go to the end. I could tell you my understanding that will be different than many that may respond but I will say this. Regardless of the understanding you receive after the flood everyone living are descendants of Adam and Eve and the line to Jesus, the last Adam that the scriptures are all about
Clear your mind of the preconceived ideas you have and pray the Holy Spirit guide you to the truth. Your questions on Genesis 1:26-2:22 when you read through and take notes and go back and study each day, consider words like water, earth, and field and replenish. Look up the meaning of them and take notes of what was created on each day. I will give you one, replenish is an Old English word that meant fill not to refill.
What the water brought forth, what the earth brought forth, and what was formed out of the ground. Like beast of the earth, beast of the field, fouls from the water, fouls formed out of the ground. In the sixth days man was created last, does that line up in the second chapter?
The reason for God not having respect for Cains offering look in the New Testament. Scripture does not tell us if God gave instructions of what and how to offer so, it not being a blood offering is opinion. Abel brought the firstlings of his flock it does not say that about Cain. I will just say most comes from the heart as we see God told Cain if he doest well he would be accepted.
The Mark of Cain, what it was is not in scripture and any opinion will be speculation but whatever it was people would see it. Do a word search on the sons of God the book of Job is a good start. There are many opinions of a gap, but I have not found any scripture to support that.
I hope this will give you a start let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and don't look to find scripture to fit an opinion or a preconceived idea, let the scripture and the Holy Spirit show the truth, it may be later not now.
God bless your study,
RLW
1 john 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as yee haue heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists, whereby wee know that it is the last time.
this idea of a human indwelt by Satan called the Antichrist is a distraction from the many Antichrists at work right now.
hares Paul's commission from the Lord
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said vnto him, Goe thy way: for hee is a chosen vessell vnto me, to beare my Name before the Gentiles, and Kings, and the children of Israel.
16 For I will shew him how great things hee must suffer for my Names sake.
Thanks for your reply.
As far as the verses Colossians 2:12 and Romans 6:3-7 are concerned, why do you think it'a about Spirit's baptism? Spirit's baptism is not something symbolic for something else as bapt. in water is. One doesn't do anything, simply God sends His Spirit to dwell in him. There is nothing there to symbolize for, I think. And certainly one receiving the HS can not in any case be taken as the burial and ressurection of Jesus.
As you said baptize in greek means to dip, immerse. The Jews practised many baptisms, hands, pots everything. Why? It means to dip them in water just to clean them. That is why John's baptism was for repemting and spiritual cleansing. John 3:3 "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins;" Please pay attention to that "for the remission of sins". If John's baptism was for the remission of sins, how do some of us believe that the christian baptism is not necassary for salvation?
Nice to hear from you again, we may disagree to some things but is nice to talk to you.
Blessings
to God and do what you will but spare HIS LIFE. Now in Job 3: 25 we read where job says that which he was afraid of has come
upon Him, God did not do any of Jobs sorrows in fact in the end God gave him back double of everything. Now the thing that Job
feared so great in Job 1:5 we read where job daily offered up prayers for his family because he believed they were sinning all
the time that is great fear. Job continually did this which opened the door, he believed that because of what his family was
doing that God was going to punish them. Its interesting how many times in scripture the first words of messengers from the
true God is fear not, even in the gospel many times Jesus Christ said fear not. When were born again in 2 Timothy 1:7 it
says that God has not given us the spirit of fear but power love and a sound mind. GOOD STUFF!
Sorry for my delayed answer, I just wanted to search for some things. So I found out that:
Firstly, ancient (pagan) Greeks were never baptised in the name of the dead. They did actually baptise their children when they were a few days old to devote them to a deity, as an act of a spiritual cleansing in the beggining of their life, and oficially give them a name, but never in the name of a dead person. So it seems there was never such a practice that creeped from idolatry to Christianity.
Secondly, I did a research on internet in English and Greek religious sites and found out that most English interpretations say what you said that Paul talks about people that were baptised in the place that somebody else died. I never found though such an interpretation in Greek Bibles. They suggest many different interpretations. One common inetrpretation is "what shall they do those who believe that they will be joined with the dead saints if the dead will not be ressurected?"
So wha is my conclusion?
I really don't think that people were baptised instead of the dead, nothing in history or any other ancient tradition or early christian writtings suggest something like that. This is probably something modern. Also this idea doesn't fit with all those things that Paul was talking about, why would he say that?
Your interpetetion that "dead" (yes it's plural, in greek adjectives, like nouns, have a prural form) means the "grave, place of the dead people" seems to be right, there may be a problem(?) though with the verse "for the dead", it may be as well interpreted "in sake of/in favor of the dead". Nevermind, this is possibly what Paul wanted to say. I keep though my initial belief that it talks about Jesus that some (that's why Paul says 'they') claimed He was never ressurected in my mind, as well as other logical possible interpetations, until God hopefully reveals the pricise meaning of that.
Thanks all of you for your replies. God Blessings.