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and I presume most Christians in this age are born to be Christian. I mean, there's no reason for a person with only scientific education to believe that he is sinful and serve God in all his life. Am I right?
I have no malice and I hope the audit mechanism won't swallow my comment.
We see the impartiality of God in the Angel of Gideon when he stated that he was "on the Lord's side" in Judges chapter 5. It wasn't revealed fully until chapter 6; verse 22. The "Angel" of God that people were instructed to follow also signified God because of the capital letter as well as the fact that disobedience would result in Divine punishment. There was surely a Saviour promised in the O.T.; and Genesis mentioned man being created in "our likeness". The distinction of the Godhead could only be stated in the fact that God the Father never appears to have a definite appearance; as the N.T. states no one has "seen God." ( John 1:18). No one can "see God and live" ( Exodus 33:20) and Moses could only see the back parts again probably of the preincarnate Christ.
It was in the visions and dreams (such as with Daniel) such as the rock that destroyed the rest of the kingdoms of the earth where Christ's glory is revealed. ( Dan. 2:31-36).
Dear Heavenly Father. we ask You tonight to give dear Jennifer restful, peaceful, and restorative sleep tonight. Strengthen her body as she sleeps so she can do all that is needed tomorrow at work. She is leaning into You each day, seeking Your help. We are so thankful that You answer hers and all of our prayers. So, we come to You again and again in the name of Jesus with our prayer for Jennifer. Amen.
c. Galatians 2:20. "Liberty". Since this whole chapter is on whether justification comes by the Law or by Christ, I feel that this verse is what is on Paul's mind when he writes on his 'crucifixion with Christ'. Certainly, Paul is not claiming a crucifixion akin to Christ's, but I believe that he is stating, that since Jesus' crucifixion was not only for mankind's redemption & for the Law, which could never be kept by man, but was now kept fully by the Lord & nailed to the Cross. Christ's crucifixion confirmed that the workings of the Law (not the Law itself) had died at the Cross, and that faith in the risen Christ alone could secure salvation.
Paul recognized this, as one who was once wholly dependent on the keeping of the Law to be acceptable to God; now, living in the Spirit & not in the flesh, Paul saw that his righteousness before God could never come through the Law but through faith in the Son of God Who died for him. Paul's 'crucifixion' in this sense meant that all that he once held dear in his doctrines & beliefs were now worthless & in opposition to the great merits of Christ's Sacrifice. Paul died to the old Law, even as Jesus' Death brought in a better Law ( Hebrews 7:19,22). Paul's identification with Christ was complete in his spiritual death when only faith in Jesus brought him righteousness.
So to your question: "So I am wondering how this factors into His words about taking up cross and following Him." Paul certainly knew the Truth from those three passages I quoted, as he shed his pharisaical garb & was now clothed with Christ & His Truth. And for us as well: when we fully believe & willingly accept the gracious Yoke of Christ, even though Discipleship might prove very costly & fully identifying with Christ's Death means the destruction of all that we held dear, tethered to Jesus alone, gives us the assurance of His ever-present Grace & Power at all times. If un-yoked to Christ, we're on our own.
Just a few thoughts on what you've shared GiGi. I'm considering the three passages: Matthew 16:24,25; Matthew 11:28-30; Galatians 2:20.
a. Matthew 16:24,25. "Discipleship". Discipleship is costly, more costly than most of us can imagine or have even experienced. To put everything pertaining to life behind one (family, possessions, ambitions, reliance on the material), equates to denying oneself. And to take up one's cross, would be the cumulative effect of that denial/casting aside which one must be prepared to carry for the journey ahead. And this must also include whatever unknowns may lie ahead (of hunger, shelter, loneliness, rejection & persecution). I would think that very few have submitted so fully to the Lord, though the disciples, to whom these words were directly spoken, joyfully apprehended it when "endued with power from on high".
b. Matthew 11:28-30. "Under Grace". Though this passage can accurately be applied to the Lord's gracious Ministry to all, I believe that He is particularly referring to the religious leaders who exacted much much more from the people than what the Law demanded. In Matthew 23:1-4, Jesus spoke of those leaders who correctly brought out Moses' Law, but then He chided them because they added their own "heavy burdens" upon the people, making obedience to the Law wearisome coupled with fear for the penalty if their rules were broken. Therefore, Jesus calls all those that are so burdened & yoked to pharisaical rules to turn to Him, He Whose "yoke" is undergirded with Grace & Truth.
This is a great discussion about which two people in history will be the two witnesses in Jerusalem. Will they be " Elijah and Enoch" or Moses and Elijah? Both have valid responses, so how does this discussion end? And who is the correct? Could there be three possibly?
God bless you.
I concur with Sammi.
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: 1Peter 2:2.
God bless you.
Sorry for such a long delay in responding I went right off to bed after my last reply.
A disciple of Christ is one who has truly believed on and trusted Christ and have been born of God's spirit. This is not professing to be born again and trying to live a righteous life or by serving or by going to church or by ministering. It's confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart that initiates God's spirit to take residence in you. You are baptized by the Holyspirit, meaning you are Identified with Christ. Christ righteous is imputed over on to you. You are then given a new heart with the ability to love and wants to obey him and serve him at your best. John 14:23-26.
You will also love the brethren. John 13:34-35. 1 John 4:21.
You can't redeem yourself! You are redeemed when you truly believe on the work Jesus did on the cross where he paid our ransom as mentioned.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Christianity isn't anything you "DO"
A Christian is what you "BECOME" by the working of the Holyspirit. And you become that by truly trusting in Christ not the works of our own hands. Christ becomes the Lord over your life and the head of the body of Christians you have been baptized into.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Philippians 2:13.
God bless.
First of all, you need to repent and believe in the lord Jesus Christ.
then seek him with all your heart and mind by prayer and fasting.
Acts 16:25-40
31 And they said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
The grace of God and our Lord Jesus Christ be with you amen
Matthew 16:13-17, Luke 4:40,41, Matthew 15:29-38, Isaiah 42:1-7, Matthew 12:17-23,
Luke 24:6,7,15,16,27, in context Luke 24, Luke 23,
Hopefully these are helpful
The woman represents the saints, who are protected for 42 months from death, and are ushering in Christ, getting past anti-christ's 42 month reign. This is what will happen in real life, anti-christ will kill saints. Can you make the real life connection from the cartoon?
These prophetic writings are allegory = a symbolic fictional narrative that conveys a meaning not explicitly set forth in the narrative. You have to know what the Bible says will happen in real life before using allegory and understand it.
Who would recognize an allegory from the real thing? Did you notice 9-11-01 was Revelation 9:1-11, the fifth trumpet? Verse 4: America killed those men who did not have the seal of God in their foreheads (Muslims), and were told not to harm any green tree, and nothing green grows in the desert. Verse 6: The Muslims who were tortured at Abu Ghraib prison were seeking death, and couldn't find it.
In the second half of Revelation 9, a new more powerful army arrives to defeat the previous US army. Images of the beat vs Babylon should come to mind. Imagine being the king of Mystery Babylon, taking his the last call, Jeremiah 50:43.
The end-times have an order, it's not a guessing game when the prophets gave us a map to find the order.
I let the Bible define itself, simple, or risk compounding errors.
The last week (7 years) of 70 weeks is a 2,000 year old power prophesy between Christ and the man of sin (anti-christ).
Daniel 9:26-27 Jesus had the first 3.5 years of absolute power, and was cut off (crucified). At the sixth trumpet, when anti-christ strikes, he too will have 3.5 years of absolute power, between the sixth and seventh trumpets. In the "midst of the week" he will deliver the abomination of desolation to US NATO & Israel, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, falling away.
"the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is" = The GREAT tribulation, Matthew 24:15, the sixth trumpet strike on Israel (whole house).
There is no rapture, it's a lie. We are all appointed one death, Hebrews 9:27. Look what Ezekiel said about the day of the Lord deaths: Ezekiel 21:1-5. Verse 4: Both the righteous and the wicked die!!! What did Jesus say about it? Luke 17:34-37, He's asked where do the people go? He answers, 'wherever the body is, so will the vultures be'. They are part of the 2.6 billion dead, Revelation 9:18, from the GREAT tribulation. The 1st resurrection is at the seventh trumpet, NOT before.
Revelation 13. Who are the two beasts?
Jesus said this before He was crucified, so do we look at it in a different light? We all have crosses to bear if said in unserious, or true difficulties, losses, and deficiencies in physical or financial health, or harms we have done to others. We can allegorize any difficulty we have as a cross to bear but how shallow would that be?
If we look at the crucifixions done back then, those who were crucified were thieves, murderers, and those who rebelled against the authorities. They were made to carry their beams/crosses to where they would be put to death. They were in complete and utter submission to authority and humiliated and were made examples. Reminds me of Revelation 16:15.
So maybe that is the cross we are supposed to carry, submission, and complete allegiance to Him? Not just one day a week but every day, examining our hearts. Studying the word of God and checking our motives, why we do what we do, and our desires, are they for His will, or for ours?
Just my thoughts.
God bless,
RLW
.....We gotta remember that God Almighty swore by himself when he made that Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thus its God himself that wants to be multiplied in humanity the world thus there will be an Israel of God ....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came....(the living word that new covenant )...it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken...When Jesus breathe on his disciples they were impregnated by his words as his breath was his words...Even in the natural our breath are our words...but with Jesus his words are the very seeds of God...The H.G a living being God was born in them...Thats y they refered to the H.G. as the Promise...he is the multiplication of God in humans The Promise...ok lemme go....Gbu Roman
Agreed "I wouldn't hold much trust & hope in Dante's Divine Comedy, as his Bible knowledge seems to be lacking. "
Secondly, & in response to your last comment: I wouldn't hold much trust & hope in Dante's Divine Comedy, as his Bible knowledge seems to be lacking. Everyone is able to know God & draw close to Him. Those who lived before the coming of Jesus (as you mentioned), or those who lived on Earth not having received God's Laws or any knowledge of Him, are also without excuse. Why?
As God alone is the Judge of our hearts, He only makes the determination upon those who respond to Him in His way. For Israel, they received the Law & the personal guidance & instruction by God through the mouths of the prophets. What did they do? They gave no heed to God's many warnings, they disobeyed God, they followed after idols - they did everything but to humble themselves & acknowledge they were sinners, not expressing faith & devotion to God. Those who did, such as Abraham, Moses, David, etc. all died, but God accepted them based on their faith & trust in Him & waiting for when their Messiah would come & full payment & restitution be made for them, as for us also. Read all of Hebrews chapter 11 & particularly note verses 13-16, 39,40).
For those who have never heard of the God of Heaven or Jesus His Son (e.g. in unreached people groups), Romans 2:11-16 applies. Here, the Gentiles (non-Jews) who never received God's Laws or knowledge of Him, are also without excuse as their own hearts accuse or excuse their sins because the Law (& their own tribal laws) have showed them sinners. They may not have heard of God, but God hears the penitent cry of their souls to a Divine to save them from their sinful misery.
And those living 'good' lives? They can never be good enough for God.