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Discernment part 2

False spirits will appeal to the lesser passions; or try to give some panacea; quick fix or other remedy that with any wisdom is "too good to be true". God will do things in His timing; and can be trusted to guide our paths as we follow Him (see Psalm 119). Wisdom is part and parcel with all spiritual things. One can procrastinate when God has made it clear that we are to move forward; but let us allow God to tell us when to move or wait. This is what can complicate even a true plan of God in our lives; such as when Sarah decided to give God a "jump start" with her handmaiden for Abraham's offspring. If we substitute our own selfish reasoning we often can cause issues that muddle things for quite a while. God is longsuffering and will work all things for the good; but still we can have unnecessary lasting scars because we take on ourselves what He is telling us to wait on.

This ties in with God giving us the "desires of our heart". ( Psalm 37:3-4). Learning to parse out His will and desire from our will takes careful analysis; and should always involve wise counsel of other believers either indicating doors are open or closed. The enemy will use any method to try to render us ineffective; if we are His sheep. If we are not truly saved; he doesn't have to do that much but of course will blind men to those witnessing the truth. (see 2 Peter 3:18 and other on KNOWING the will of God). We should be wise to the tactics of our enemy; always prepared as Ephesians 6 states. We cannot outsmart him and never should attempt to go after his hierarchy or authority structure directly.

My circumstances at the moment do not allow me to go to church on Saturday the sabbath because I am temporarily in a rehabilitation center learning to walk again after about a month stay in the hospital for medical reasons. I wanted to know while I am not keeping the sabbath holy. I do read and listen to my Bible on my smartphone. I hope to be discharged from said rehab place in another 3 months or so. I wanted to know if I am still sinning against God

Discernment

I have been given spiritual discernment myself; so I could be biased here. I can't help but observe how lacking it appears to be in the church today; including those who seem to possess the other "signs and wonders" gifts. It seems those who are "cessationists" (a viewpoint I'm still trying to iron out) are on the opposite end with those who routinely practice tongues (usually the dominant gift claimed to be happening in Pentacostal and/or Charismatic congregations. There are some on YouTube; usually those formerly in New Age or other occult practices who are familiar with false signs and demonic manifestations; but those who regularly attend the Mega churches never seem to discuss this subject. If anyone knows a good study from a Charismatic brother on knowing the differences I would like to know about it.

When we study the verse stating that if any spirit says that Christ came in the flesh it is from God ( 1 John 4:2) and vice versa we need to pay attention to the emphasis here. It doesn't say that any PERSON claiming Christ came in the flesh is from God; just any spirit BEHIND that person; group or organization. If it was that easy Satan would be giving away His plans too easily.

It is the "angel of light" we ought to be most concerned about here. ( 2 Cor. 1:14). Certainly; terrible possessions and oppressions can make clear that there is a demonic entity behind the torment. The power of Satan is only over a believer if he yields to sin. The opposite is true; from my own experience we cannot sin with impunity as we did before; the enemy LOVES to oppress us if we succumb to weakness and don't trust God. I am convinced the Lord uses that often in our sanctification process. In any event; it is clear who has won the war; but if we think there aren't battles then our spiritual armor is badly taken care of or missing altogether.

True Holy Spirit manifestation satisfies the soul while increasing hunger and thirst for righteousness.

Word of Knowledge

I had a personal encounter with a young lady in the Lord in the late 1980s who gave me a Word about having a certain physical condition that caused me to be "bound up" as it were. There was no way she would have known about it. A Word of Knowledge doesn't seem to have any direct Biblical reference but certainly fits in with the Prophets when addressing David as Nathan did; for instance. Again; as with any other supernatural event; the enemy who works thorough families for generations (and can act as a "familiar spirit" for example) is well aware of our weaknesses; and if we allow any sins to fester; God Himself allows us to be tested. There should be some check in our spirit that the Holy Spirit is communicating with us; or not ( Romans 8:16). It is of course the message not the messenger that is the focus in the case of a true miracle. That being said; someone who is known to be a man or woman of God by their character and lifestyle is usually used-although the message tends to come in the O.T. in rather mysterious delivery and what is considered odd behaviors.

We certainly need to heed the Word so that any false prophets or words of knowledge can be caught. Anyone; for instance saying to someone that God has called them to divorce their wives and marry someone else is from the enemy (using carnal desire as the impetus). The same principle often occurs today with these "prosperity" preachers who just have to have another car; plane; etc. Again; as I stated before a Word often isn't pleasant; an example being Peter being told he would be taken where he didn't want to go ( John 21:19). This came after the preparation when Satan desired to sift him like wheat; the Lord prayed for him; and then the Lord told him of his denial yet gave the hope that when he was "converted" he would strengthen his brethren ( Luke 22:32). Here; we see an ongoing discipling process which should also occur when any word of knowledge is given.

Interesting study on Greek meanings. It is noteable; that those who had believed hearing John's message perhaps somehow were not privy to those who had the Pentecost experience. They clearly had repented and believed but were ignorant not of their own fault. The question of true repentance (a gift from God); and testing ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5-6) does show us if we are truly saved. There is; of course a concern of the opposite issue; i.e. miracles occurring yet Christ not "knowing" us ( Matt. 7:23 and other verses). Here; the problem is that there is something in it for them rather than desire to glorify God. It could be that they are seeking glory for themselves by surrounding themselves with true miracle workers; they are merely "declaring" things from their own imaginations or working with a demonic imitation of the Holy Spirit. Judas Iscariot is a disturbing example of a predestined "son of perdition" who was not only called as an Apostle but went out with them when these miracle were being performed. There is scripture which seems to indicate the Spirit can still work through someone without them being saved; such as Balaam in the O.T. The message of repentance; and the miracle of salvation from sins still has to be the main focus. God can still work even with imperfect vessels; and perhaps having a few true believers in many cases today in a Laodician church still can allow miracles to occur in the presence of a few Spirit filled individuals.

I agree that merely knowing the Word isn't enough. The opposite here is also the case though; there seems to be a great lack of knowledge among those who claim to possess spiritual gifts. Obviously; to be Christlike involves BOTH. We need to love the Word; and if we love Him we are obedient. ( John 14:15). As salt and light; we need to be overcomers with the fear of the Lord. Sadly; many look to Him as some sort of cosmic genie rather than MASTER; savior AND Lord.

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Hi M , if you are a Christian you ought to listen to what God says and not to men , any man who tells you that it's acceptable for a Christian to use violence is , I believe on dangerous ground . Acts Ch 5 V 29 . In Matthew Ch 26 we read about one of the disciples taking up a sword against those who had come to arrest Jesus , what is Jesus's response to this action ? Matthew Ch 26 V 52 . You might say to yourself that there are many people who have used violence and they didn't die by it , they died peaceful deaths after long and happy lives . Firstly , Jesus doesn't say ' die ' he says perish , which is the Greek word for total destruction . Not quite the same as die . Also , I personally believe that Jesus is referring to the day of judgement , check out Revelation Ch 2 V 12-16 . The sharp two edged sword , which to me represents the word of God that we have in the Bible ( not ever the words of men ) is what Jesus will use to divide between the goats and the sheep . We want to be on the side of the sheep right ? So , I think that the sword that Jesus is referring to in Matthew Ch 26 is the actual words that he spoke , that he was given by his Father , our God ,that we should be doing our best to live by so that when Christ returns to divide his sheep from his goats , we can be on side of the sheep . I hope I have made this clear .

Jeremiah 2:13 This verse has one of the greatest challenges facing the Body of Christ the Church of God in the age

of grace even being written to israel or the jewish people in captivity. The evils are forsaking the fountain of living

waters God who supplies all need but also we try to figure out better ways the flesh of by not walking by the spirit

and that is what seperates believers because of different belief systems outside of whats written which goes against

Ephesians 4:1-6 also in Phillipians the main topic is like minded in christ I.E. DOCTRINE. What seperated Jesus Christ

from the other leaders was not what he said His doctrine was with power and authority, the same with the first century

church they not only talked the walk but walked the talk and manifested the power given them. The same is available

inour day and time God hasn't and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday to day and forever. God Bless.

Yes Fred, There's a battle going on that has already been decided.

There's a powerful evil force in the world and then There's The Lord of TRUTH. Truth is being attacked by those who CANNOT hear the truth.

John 8:40-47. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

CONCLUSION.

This is said about one group. WHY DO YE NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? EVEN BECAUSE YE CANNOT HEAR MY WORD.

This is said about the other group. John 10:27-28. MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, AND I KNOW THEM, and they follow me:

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Happiest Birthday to you Christina,

I found searching for my "life wants" never turned out the way I expected and that caused so much heartache & pain I'm still dealing with some of those choices (today) years later. When we surrender our hearts to God & let Him guide you will be amazed and so much happier for it will all come together in His time because if your looking to the left you could very easily miss what He had on your right and turning your head constantly will only make you dizzy! Allowing Him to guide you, you'll not miss what's important. Even the depression will cease the more He is with you and turning your head in life. Lots of ppl struggle with suicided, even Christians, because they don't know how to let go and let God! So let Him in in every aspect of your life and what ever He wills for you will happen in His time and for His glory. *Heavenly Father we thank you for your Son Jesus dying for all our sins past, present and future. Lord I ask that you please be with Christina in her walk with you and let her truly feel your love and guidance in her life. In Jesus precious name Amen.!* Hang in there girl. God bless and be with you always.!

Sorry, that article was from Philip Kosloski - published on 06/04/20

Not Time of Grace.

Acts 19:2 Have ye received since ye believed. Many times I've heard people say to me my brother finally believed

and Got born again. Then I ask how do you know not being negative but by their fruit ye shall know. An interesting

detail about the word receive biblically their are two words in greek for receive[dechomai and lambano]. Now some

may say so what well dechomai is receive subjectively something i.e. being given a tool box full of wrenches and never

utilizing the tools. Lambano is receiving and operating or manifesting what you've been given.

In ACTS 19:2 Pual found certain disciples they believed and ask them if they received and this is the word [lambano]

and after he taught concerning Christ Jesus and ministered to them they S.I.T and prophecied which is the outward

display of the inward power of holy spirit. In Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive [lambano] manifested power displayed and

be witnesses also note it doesn't say defense attorneys, we don't defend God we walk in love and tell and teach.

Receiving dechomai are the ones who hear and there's no humility or heart in it's just another piece of knowledge to

consider and nothing is done with it. The parable of the sower and the seed is a great exaple of both of these.

In the greek Gods word has a great more depth of understanding for those interested.

Amen Gigi!

Here's one more.

Psalms 90:2 (KJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from EVERLASTING to EVERLASTING, thou art God.

The universe has rules! These rules are dictated by the one who created it! Can unbelieveing man change these rules, while in the midst of us who believe these rules?

The universe doesn't think so! It has His ways of correcting the imbalance that is produced by the injustice that occures.

This is called the constant will or love of the creator! He especially loves those,who wish the same things He does! Those things being, the protection of the lives who are unable to care for themselves.

The creator shall do what is inevidible for those who wish to hurt the creation! If not now when "their time" is up, they shall find the eternal darkness that awaits for them!

If you are not a child of God, then you may find yourself with these who do not believe these things! Judgment is at the doors! Pray for the innocent, pray for the unwarranted deeds of the evil, that those who are part of these things "He shall judge now"!Awake and be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit!

Words that Paul and Jesus wanted believers to understand and know. Ephesians 1:17 That the God (of) our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the (only) true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is (one God), and one mediator between God and men, (the man) Christ Jesus; Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son (of) the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

I put in parenthesis words that can be passed over easily. A lot of the phrases "deity of Christ", "fully God, fully man", "God the Son" I haven't read in the Bible. I might have missed them. If so I would like to know them. I wonder if their is a benefit in adding to the words the Bible uses to describe Jesus Christ.

PRAISE the LORD for opening my Understanding the 70th Psalms. A Very Good friend told me to read this Psalms Everyday in 1978. Thank You Jesus For My Friend Marie Wooding. RIP

Hi S Spencer , may I ask you a question ? What do you believe that the whore of Babylon symbolises ? I believe that it represents Rome , more specifically Roman Catholicism . For the sake of my post I shall assume that I'm correct ( I know that I could be wrong ) . Do you know anything about the council of Nicea which was held in 325 a.d. ? If not , you might want to check it out , it's fascinating but not necessarily in a good way smiley face . It was there that the Nicene Creed was born , which is now one of the key beliefs of Roman Catholicism . Please don't take my word for any of this , I know you are a smart guy so you can hopefully see the significance of this and why I believe the things that I do . Love and respect in Christ .

Richard IN 1 Corinthians 12:7 Paul writes concerning the manifestation or one of the nine outward displays of the gift

holy spirit. Best definition I've ever heard is the outward manifestation of the inward prasence of the power of holy

spirit. In the first century church this was not limited to the apostles other believers spoke in tongues and performed

miracles etc. It is interesting to note that to the corinthians in 14:18 Paul states I thank God I speak in tongues more than

ye all. So whats the benefit. Acts 2:11 speaking the wonderful works of God, Private prayer life 1 Cor. 14:4+5 Edification

of our spirit 1 Cor. 14:4, communication with God in divine mysteries or secrets. 1 Cor. 14:2, giving thanks well 1 Cor 14:17

keeps us aware we are Gods children and joint heirs with Christ Roman8:16, helps us with our infirmities Romans8:26,

makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God Romans 8:26+27,strenghthens us with His might in the Inner

man Ephesians 3:16, sign to unbelievers in the church new people 1 Cor.14:12. These are all the wonderful benefits again all

things of God are profitable and glorify Him when operated correctly in order with Gods LOVE. P.S. I've seen many times

these things are more in total confusion. LAST 1 Cor. 14:40 Let everything be done decently and in order. That's Godly Amen

Yes Levis he did tell one to go and show himself to the Priest....But b/f Jesus told him to go show himself ....Jesus charged him strictly tell no man...what had happened ... luke 5 : 14 kjv

.....And of the 10 lepers only 1 returned to thank him.....And he was a Samaritian....But over all he tried to keep his Miracles and deity a secret....Charging them to tell no man what he had done....

......A bruised reed shall he not break nor a smoking flax shall he not quench till he has sent forth judgement into victory.... Isaiah 42 : 3 KJV....And Matthew 12:20 kjv

......And i will open my mouth in a parable and utter things KEPT SECRET from the foundation of the world....( HIS DEITY )... MAT. 13 :35 KJV...And his miracles he tried to keep secret.

......His biggest secret was that he was gonna sire Children in humananity via his seed the word that were Gods....Spirits as that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Children of PROMISE...She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule all nations....

Part 3

So the transition was that Paul's epistles from Romans to Philemon depicted details of the rest of the Book of Acts from Jesus Christ blinding Paul in Damascus to the last chapter of Book of Acts. All Apostles are important. But because I am not a Jew, and God had chosen Paul to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, which I am, I believe God is telling me to read the writings of Paul. The Gospel revealed to Paul is in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. The difference between the early Apostles is that they were preaching who Jesus was VS Paul revelation from God was how that Christ died for our sins according to scriptures that he was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Why emphasized scriptures twice? Because we are talking about the same And only One God who manifested in three persons-God the Father, The God Son Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit (Trinity). Jesus death on the cross is a gift of grace for those who believe and justified through faith in Jesus blood, which I think Peter and the rest of the Apostles understood later through Paul Galatians 1:18. You see once you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of God you just know what to do. This I know I will not and refuse to think and accuse people today that they are anti-Christ if they are in any Christian Religion. They may have different interpretations, and traditional belief, but we have been warned about this in Colossians 2:8. That is fine with me if you do not believe the same way I understand the Bible. I just want to have a Godly conversation with anyone, for I am just another person who is trying to find the true God teachings in order to please the one and Holy God. To that effect, hoping that many will find the truth as well. Then in the end we all give Glory to God.

Luke 11:21

Dear John, be not afraid, if you have taken Jesus as your Lord and Savior, He will not send you to the bad place (Hell) for doing or saying something wrong for it says in Romans 3:23 "We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God." When we sin, 1 John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

We can never lose our salvation by failing our Lord. 2 Corinthians 1:22 "Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts."

God bless you and keep you, John.

2 Corinthians 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. Luke 16:20

As we know some are born blind, crippled, deaf, some never talk. This don't say its ok to draw a check and complain about conditions. Most anyone can find a way to do good and let our light shine.

A young man (lived homeless on the streets) who's dad was worth millions, got in contact with his son (a few yrs before he died) offered him his half if he would come home and do right - the young man refused.

I'm sorry. Someone asked who's running the Government and I showed them it's God.

Sorry , I think that the whole of Psalm 8 is about Jesus .

Psalm 8 Ch 5 ?

please pray for me

THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES US THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

These verses tell us who is Lord over our Constitutional Rights. You bear the responsibility to follow God, First.

On a personal note from me: BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS. America is rapidly becoming lawless.

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and THE GOVERNMENT shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister OF GOD, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Romans 13:1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be ARE ordained of God.

Jeremiah 29:7 - And seek the peace of the city whither I have caused you to be carried away captives, and pray unto the LORD for it: for in the peace thereof shall ye have peace.

Hebrews 13:17

Obey them that have the rule over you [church Leaders] and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

We need to vote responsibly and stop voting red, white blue, rainbows and nuclear weapons as an answer.

Read the Signs of the times: China, Russia, Pakistan are underwater. The rest of the planet is burning up. IT IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING!! IT IS GOD ABOUT TO STAND UP.

THE GREEN DEAL IS THE ONE WORLD RELIGION.

Antichrist MUST CONTROL FOOD WORLDWIDE.

All nations will BLAME ISRAEL__and point their nukes at them.

SIGNS OF THE TIMES: Matthew 24

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Gamaliel the son of Pedahzur is mentioned in the Bible OT 5X. In Acts 2X. Noticed the importance of this man. He convinced the council to let go the apostles doing their work for God knowing if their work was not from God they will fail anyway. Very smart nan. The next he was mentioned was when Paul is defending himself in Acts 22:3. The point is Gamaliel is a reputable man, whom I think a way to show the reader the legitimacy of the Apostle Paul knowing the law and leading to acknowledging Paul's ignorance about Jesus Christ. Acts 6 mainly is about Stephen against the synagogue of the Libertines. Then Acts 7 is when Stephen gave his greatest testimony and was stoned to death. Acts 7:58 Paul consenting to Stephen's death. Acts 8 talks about the great persecution against the church and the apostles still doing God's work when others scattered abroad. Acts 9 Acts 9:5) was when Jesus appeared to Paul on his way to Damascus. Chapter 10 and 11 is about Peter with Cornelius and his people converted. Very important because Peter was instructed by God to go to the uncircumcised people, whom Peter called common and unclean. Acts 11 is when Peter is already in Jerusalem explaining the same thing happened in c19; and noticed in Acts 11:25 Barnabas left Antioch to Tarsus to seek Saul ( Paul) then went back to Antioch and stayed there for whole year Acts 11:26). Isn't that a big transition? Then Acts 11:27-30 great dearth throughout all the world was told by a Prophet from Jerusalem named Agabus who came to Antioch and Barnabas and Saul were doing some relief work. In Galatians 1:18 Peter and Paul met. Then the rest you know the stories because you read them all. I am just very particular on a lot of detail because I was born Catholic, Bible Reader, and became a Mormon then the Seventh Day Adventist allpleasingfamily. I am done with listening to all religion.after my Mom died. Being an orphan I realized I have only God to rely on my journey here on earth.