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Robert,

That is a Hebraism that means when you come into a house or into a city, you're asking for SHALOM, is there a son of peace here? Meaning, are you receptive to Messiah?



If they are rejecting the message they have about Jesus Christ as Messiah, then they are told, may your peace return to you, and you leave that house. It has to be a house that is going to be at peace with Christ, and at peace with them, for them to stay.

To God be the Glory.!! His words I merely copied and pasted. Praise Him always.

I did not know this, thank you.

Your welcome, S. Spencer. I usually do not share about his because I believe it was a specific interaction between the Lord and myself and definitely personal, but I thought it may bless someone to hear it here. It definitely changed me in a big way and encouraged me to endure hardship, heartache, and chastisement from the Lord in the months and years after as I knew that He was creating in me a new heart that was much more submitted to Him. And, although I do think that the Lord does bring comfort, direction, and teaching from His word through dreams and visions, I am not one to run after these things seeking them. I have heard far too many "revelations" that are supposed to come from the Lord that are very suspect and filled with doctrinal/Scriptural error that I cannot accept them. I would expect anyone reading my post to do so prayerfully and test it like any other spiritual experience for authenticity.

I hope you are doing well this week. I had a breast biopsy yesterday and waiting for the results to come in early next week. Praying that all is really ok and there is no treatment needed because my cells are healthy! Finally getting over the respiratory problems I had for a month. Feels so good to have energy and be able to breathe well and have the coughing gone! I am thankful that the Lord is merciful to me and in all of this is with me and for me. He will always do what is best for me.

Please pray for me.. this relationship I'm in is so toxic

Thanks Gigi.

Great testimony.

God bless you.

Hi John Ray.

I'm sorry we missed your question!

I will try to refresh it with perhaps the verses you are referring to.

Please confirm if this is the scriptures you are referring to.

John 5:22-29.

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Looking forward to hearing from you. God bless.

My dear brother Chris,

No need to feel silly. I want you to know that when I read Dratliff's question, there were no replies. It wasn't until after I posted and hit the submit button that I saw 1 reply which was yours. Had I have seen that first, I probably would have acknowledged your post before adding mine. What you said was completely true.

Also, like you, I often read and put myself into those various situations and ask myself how would I have handled it.

Some of my favorite stories are in the gospels where many times Jesus put His disciples in situations that were humanly impossible for them to handle. But what did they do? They tried to solve things on their own. So many times they tried but failed.

Do you think Jesus was trying to prove something to them, that apart from Him, they can't do it? How often do we in our own lives get put into difficult situations where we try and fix it ourselves when in reality these things are laid before us in order to teach us to trust in the Lord?

my boyfriend wants to commet suicide and i cant stop them

1Now these are the generations of Esau, who is Edom.

2Esau took his wives of the daughters of Canaan; Adah the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and Aholibamah the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon the Hivite;

3 An Bashemath Ishmael's daughter, sister of Nebajoth.

4And Adah bare to Esau Eliphaz; and Bashemath bare Reuel;

5 An Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these are the sons of Esau, which were born unto him in the land of Canaan.

6And Esau took his wives, and his sons, and his daughters, and all the persons of his house, and his cattle, and all his beasts, and all his substance, which he had got in the land of Canaan; and went into the country from the face of his brother Jacob.

7For their riches were more than that they might dwell together; and the land wherein they were strangers could not bear them because of their cattle.

8Thus dwelt Esau in mount Seir: Esau is Edom.

9And these are the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in mount Seir:

10These are the names of Esau's sons; Eliphaz the son of Adah the wife of Esau, Reuel the son of Bashemath the wife of Esau.

11And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, and Gatam, and Kenaz.

12And Timna was concubine to Eliphaz Esau's son; and she bare to Eliphaz Amalek: these were the sons of Adah Esau's wife.

13And these are the sons of Reuel; Nahath, and Zerah, Shammah, and Mizzah: these were the sons of Bashemath Esau's wife.

14 An these were the sons of Aholibamah, the daughter of Anah the daughter of Zibeon, Esau's wife: and she bare to Esau Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah.

15 Thes were dukes of the sons of Esau: the sons of Eliphaz the firstborn son of Esau; duke Teman, duke Omar, duke Zepho, duke Kenaz,

16 Duk Korah, duke Gatam, and duke Amalek: these are the dukes that came fr Eliphaz in the land of Edom; these were the sons of Adah.

17And these are the sons of Reuel Esau's son; duke Nahath, duke Zerah, duke Shammah, duke Mizzah: these are the dukes that came of Reuel in t

Thanks brother Jesse for that great exposition of that passage. I feel a little silly now, maybe misunderstanding Dratliff's reason for asking the question. Yours reads much better & more accurate.

I usually put myself in Peter's position whenever I read this passage, and wonder how I would have behaved in that situation. I imagine that my great difficulty would be to first get out of the boat and if that was successful, once on the raging seas then my faith would become stronger to continue standing/walking on the water. Or, was it that Peter's eyes were so affixed on Jesus, and as you wrote, he obeyed Jesus' authoritative Command, that the question of sinking as he alighted the boat didn't enter his mind? His focus in complete faith was fully on his Savior until his flesh gave way to human reasoning. Even if the waters were calm, it would still take much faith to even step into the water, which certainly wasn't knee or waist deep.

please remember my family in your prayers

Whats the understanding of what these verses mean!

Luke 10;5- And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.

6And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.KJ Bible.

Sammi,

6pm to 9pm would be first watch. 9pm to midnight is second watch. Midnight to 3am is third watch. So fourth watch would be 3am to 6am.

Gmmoore,

First, I am sorry to hear this. But yes, Romans 8:28 tells us that the Lord will work things out for the good. We must trust that His ways are better than ours, no matter what we ask of Him.

In Romans 8:28, the word good is the word AGATHOS, spiritual good. Human good is KALOS. Spiritual good is AGATHOS.



That makes a big difference because if I'm looking at it religiously, humanly, and on a horizontal physical plain, when it says "all thing work together for good," that means in the human, God's going to work things out good for me in the human and in the flesh.



But no, this is spiritual good. Also, notice that it doesn't say all things are good. It says that all things are going to be worked out for the good.



What's good and bad in the human, that's our judgment system. To God, everything is good because He's doing everything. And when we have things "go wrong," in God's vocabulary, that's not even in there. When we say "Lord, things are going wrong," to Him everything is going right.



We know that all things work together for good, and look at the two descriptions of the people for whom everything is working out for the good: It is to those who love God, and to those who are called according to His purpose.



Why? Because everything's going to work out according to the will of God, so that when we do pray for the Lord's will to be done, we can know because this is a promise right from God, that all things work together for the good.

Continue to trust in the Lord that He will work things out for the good according to His will.

Sorry Parker , I probably should have given you some sort of scriptural reference to prop up my previous answer to you , I need to be more conscientious about doing that , try reading Ephesians chapter two , verses 1 - 6 , hope that's better .

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In Matthew 14:31, we have the Catching of the Lord:

It says, "And immediately Jesus stretched out his hand and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore did you doubt?"



Now the word "doubt" means to stand between two opinions, or two principles. Peter was trying to look at Jesus and trust Him, and yet looking at the circumstances at the same time.



You can only be occupied with one thing. But even if we do let ourselves get drawn into the circumstances, Jesus is there to pull us out!

In Matthew 14:32, we have the Calming of the Sea:

So now the wind stops! There is a lesson there as well.



You see, Jesus doesn't need to stop the storm. He doesn't need to stop the problem. He doesn't need to change anything because He is in charge of it. His message to us is that we need to trust Him. He's even in charge of the storm.



Notice the confession of the disciples in Matthew 14:33, " Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God."

I know this was a little long. If you read through it all, I say thank you. Bottom line is that no matter what our circumstances might be, we must trust in Jesus, and not let any outside distraction take our focus off Him.

Peter was not going to get out of the boat unless the Lord commanded him to do so. But once Peter got out of the boat, he began to waiver in his faith due to the storm.

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So Matthew 14:27 says, But straightway, or immediately, Jesus spake unto them saying, be of good cheer, literally be of courage. He didn't mean be happy. He just meant, have some courage here guys!



But please notice this. Jesus says it is I, except in the Greek it doesn't say it is I. It says AYGO AYMI, or I Am, and that's the name of God, Jehovah God in the Old Testament. He says, be of courage, I Am! Do not be afraid!



So now in Verse 28, we see the proposal of Peter:

Peter answered and said unto him, Lord, if it be thou, and in the Greek text that is called the first-class condition assumed to be true.



What Peter is saying is "Since it's you." But as a side note, please know that the storm is still going. The storm has not stopped. Some people lose that as they read through it.



So here's Peter saying, Lord, if it be thou, bid me to come unto thee upon the water.



In order to walk on the water, you would have to first get out of the boat. And then you got to have faith like Peter if you want to walk on water.



But please notice that Peter said to Jesus "Command me to come out!" You see, Peter wasn't going out unless the Lord commanded him to. If you ask me, that is pretty smart!

And so we see the command of Jesus in Matthew 14:29. He says, Come!

And the capability of Peter:



It says when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked upon the water.



Now we're talking about the surging waves, we are taking about the middle of the storm, and that Jesus didn't stop the storm. He doesn't need to stop the storm.



Peter's walking on top of the storm, walking to Jesus! And then in Matthew 14:30, we see the call to the Lord. When Peter saw the wind was boisterous, he was afraid; and began to sink; and he cried out, calling, Lord save me.

I'll need to send a part 3

Hello Parker. The Matthew 8:21,22 reference ties in with Luke 9:57-62. This disciple (not of the twelve), wanted to follow Jesus wherever he went but wasn't prepared to leave everything at once to do so. What he was asking of Jesus was if he could follow Jesus after his father had died (i.e. when his earthly responsibilities to his family were completed) & he was free to leave.

And so Jesus' response to this was, 'leave those matters to those who are concerned with them & who don't wish to follow me and learn of me - but if you're serious, then come follow Me now'. One might think that Jesus was a little hard on this man, but the message was, that time cannot be wasted on matters that others can take care of; and if we procrastinate on important matters now, we might just eventually lose interest in pursuing it altogether. Words matter little - Jesus required action as well - an immediate response, for His time was short.

Dratliff,

I think the significance of this section in Matthew is that we are to trust in Jesus, no matter what our circumstances are. Matthew 14:22-33 is the section that talks about Peter walking upon the water.

I'll share this with you from my study in the hope that it might shed some light on what was taking place there.

First of all in Matthew 14:22, it says that straightway (or immediately) Jesus constrained his disciples to get into the ship.



Please notice here in Verses 22 and 23 that everything that's going to happen now is because Jesus designed it to happen. He constrained them, meaning He forced them into the ship.



So in Verse 22, we have the providence of Jesus. He forced the disciples into the ship and told them to go to the other side of the sea while He stayed behind and sent the multitudes away.

In Matthew 14:23, we see the prayer of Jesus. But notice the incident in Verse 24. Notice the peril of the disciples. They are in this ship in the middle of the sea, and they are being tossed around by the waves. They are in the middle of this huge storm.



And then the presence of Jesus in Matthew 24:25. It says that in the fourth watch of the night (which would be somewhere between three and six a.m.) that they are out there in their boat with hurricane force winds, and Jesus came to them walking upon the sea.

In Matthew 14:26, we see the perception of the disciples. The word spirit in Greek is PHANTASMA, and it where we get our English word phantom from. They thought He was a ghost. It is not the word for spirit. It is the word for ghost. They thought He was a ghost and they cried out.

Please notice here the personal word of Jesus in Matthew 14:27. It says, "But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid."

I am running out of space so I will need to send a part 2.

Hi Dratliff. I don't believe there's any particular significance in that passage. In the Matthew reference you gave, the sea that Jesus came walking on was the Sea of Galilee (as John refers to it in John 6:17, where Capernaum was on the other side of it). Therefore, referring to it as 'the sea' is correct, whereas when Peter, wanting to affirm that it was indeed Jesus walking on water, then himself walked on the water (of that sea) towards Jesus - at least until his faith held out.

Hi Monica,

I had to reply to your post because your issue was exactly what Pastor Adams, Apostolic Church of the Lord Jesus Christ in Barnesville, Georgia spoke about last night. The topic was ""Pray that my faith doesn't fail." The church post the videos online. It is definitely worth your time to listen to the message. Anway, hard times, discouragement and doubt is trying to pull you away from God. Don't let it. I liked what Sammi wrote to you It was good advice to get through this hard time. I hope you are encouraged by those that care for you here on this forum.

God bless you.

This is an account of an actual incident , it was starting to get dark ( the fourth watch, does anyone know what time of day that means ? ) And the disciples weren't able to recognise that it really was Jesus walking towards them . Peter thinks of a way to know for sure if it really is Jesus , if it is , then he can make it so I can walk on the water also . Peter starts out ok but , when he sees the waves and feels the strong wind , he is AFRAID , he looses faith in Jesus's ability to keep him safe and he begins to sink . He cries out to Jesus , who saves him instantly . Peter payed to much attention to what was going on around him , the physical world , the wind and the waves scared him , he took his eyes off Jesus . He started to walk by the sight of his eyes and not by his faith in Jesus and his worldly fears started to overwhelm him . Although this is a literal incident , the message is there for all of us so it's also parabolic .

Got my rejection letter today. thank you for all the prayers. Romans 8:28 right?

please pray for a brother in Christ named Ebrima and his siblings.

Asking for strong protection, deliverance, healing, salvation (those not saved) and the fire of the Holy Spirit for us and all in need. Lord please have your hand on this weekend, bless it please and please also break through with A. and all her New Age stuff. She needs you desperately and maybe she refuses to come because of me and our conflict. Help Lord. Help K. also and shield her (incl. in that class). Please also do a mighty work in our church. Thank you Lord.

Why in Matt 14:25-26,29 Jesus walks on the sea and Peter walks on the water. Is there a significance?

Meant to say life-long work.

Hello Walke,

To be prudent means to be wise in your decisions and actions using common sense and being circumspect about decisions.

It means that one is not hasty in acting or making choices, nor prone to acting on a whim, but to think things through to foresee outcomes and possible benefits or harm from a certain choice. A prudent person uses wisdom learned from experience or trusted counsel.

I like listening makes my heart feel good.