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Its interesting to say, the earth was without form..means was it a plan by the God.. In God's eyes there is no difference between plan and action

In Revelation:

The dragon is the devil

The beast is the papacy

The lamb-like beast is the United States

The three angels message that Babylon has fallen is a warning to God's people to separate themselves from apostate churches. "Come out of her my people". Martin Luther and others believed the Papacy was the Antichrist. The movement to unite all religions is of the devil. We are to be separate. Keep the pure Word of God, undefiled by the doctrine of man.

The state of our soul at death is that it sleeps. The dead soul knows nothing anymore. And, just like when we fall asleep at night and suddenly it's morning, the same will happen when Christ calls us from our sleep at his coming.

Spiritism is false teaching and of the devil. It opens the door to demons. We cannot pray to dead relatives or dead saints. They are sleeping. Anyone seeing their dead relative is actually seeing a demonic impersonator.

Sunday is NOT the Sabbath.

Saturday, the seventh day of the week, is the Sabbath.

It is God's sign. It is God's mark.

Having just read Jeremiah and then Lamentations , for what must be at least the fiftieth time , I am struck again by the absence of a character from those books . The books , as most of you know , tell the story of the end of the Kingdom of Israel and the sorrow of the prophet Jeremiah as he witnesses this awful event . After many warnings from God , through His prophets , Israel as a nation is finally punished for its continued sinful behaviour . Reading carefully we can see just how sinful Israel have been and just how severely God punishes them . Satan / the devil , whatever you wish to call him is absent from this narrative . God makes it very clear that Israel , a nation of disobedient humans , is being punished for their refusal to have faith in and respect for the Holy One of Israel . Israel acknowledge their sinfulness and don't blame anyone or anything for their sinfulness other than themselves . It seems things were much simpler and more honest in those days . Why aren't we as Christians as simple and honest about our own sinful behaviour anymore ? I don't blame anyone or anything for my own sinfulness . I know what I am . Christ is coming , repent , acknowledge your sinfulness , don't try to blame some kind of malevolent phantom for your own sins . God requires honesty and acknowledgement and confession from us . If we want to get to know God we must first know ourselves , what we are . Sinful flesh in desperate need of forgiveness and reconciliation . Only God can give us that through Christ but we must know ourselves and confess our state and ask for forgiveness . We can't ask for forgiveness for our sins if we are not 100 per cent convinced that we and we alone are responsible for them . Humility is required . Genuine humility only comes from recognising what you are , how low we are and how high above us God is . Christ is coming ! Don't be deceived !

please pray for me and my family please remember my daughter Jessica and her family

Carleton,

Re.your last line,"Babylon is another word for the world by my understanding."

You are correct. The Spirit tells of the fulness of Christ. "For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell."(Col.1:19) God forbade Israel to sell the land for the reason the earth abides forever and it is given to his Son who is the judge. In the Revelation we have names which are judged already for instance Sodom and Egypt. Jerusalem similarly shall be judged for having rejected his Son. When the Spirit narrates the martyrdom of the two witnesses whave the line as given below.

In Re.11:8 The Spirit gives us the hint how we should look at the name of places persons and events, " And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." In Re.18 we have the fate of Babylon.(18:21)

"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." Similarly Jesus is qualified as the last Adam (1 Co.15:45) God 'tempt's Abraham to sacrifice Isaac is set down in order to inform us of our Father in heaven sending his Son to be a sacrifice for us. It is thus every name stands either on the side of the Son or as enemy. The Law of Gradation has thus lists of martyrs ("That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias,"-Matt.23:35) indicating his own death approaching. This is in condemnation of the nation that did resist the will of God.

I beg to differ from your view on the seven seals. you said, "And around 65 years after His ascention, JESUS broke the 7 seals of the secret book of Apocalypse" The Spirit has set the night vision of Daniel. The Ancient of days granted everlasting dominion to the the Son of man (Jesus Christ). Night vision is a clue to signal the reader that we are looking at the divine Will whereas what St John is lookig at the Son as he is set to fulfill the will of his Father. "The judgment was set, and the books were opened." also indicates the Son to whom God has appointed as the Judge. Angelic revolt till the last insurrection shall be covered. ("Know ye not that we shall judge angels? "-1 Co.6:3)It is a promise of Jesus to his disciples.

In the Revelation, it is not a secret book as you say, Only those who want to put to read with a literary inquisitive mind would want to put names to the beast. From Nero to ISIL were suggested. From the Garden of Eden to the holy City of God the Spirit is consistent. So let us stick to the facts. In the Book of Daniel we have the will of the Father expressed. The revelation begins with the risen Christ superimposed over the Ancient of days, ("His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow;" 1:14) and the seven candlesticks in the middle." The body of Christ the church from Ge.2 (creation of Eve) forms part of the narrative till the end.

St John is looking at the same vision of Daniel but from the POV of Christ Jesus as the fulfillment aspect of the Father. Thus the slain Lamb in Ch.7 is introduced to lead the church where the throne of God is also a composite, Throne of God and of the Lamb.(Re.22:1) Read the Bible in the manner the Spirit exhorts you to read. You shall know the truth and escape the traps set for literary minds. They are still around the fleshpots of Egypt and harping on Jerusalem! Let them. We are called to be overcomers. Hallelujah!

Bennymkje"

You asked me: Was the vision of Daniel fulfilled literally?

Many of Daniel's prophecies were literally fulfilled until this current time, of course, i.e. by a period around 2550 years. All that remains is to fulfill the last events, of which JESUS highlighted Daniel 12 in Matthew 24:15, understand?

And around 65 years after His ascention, JESUS broke the 7 seals of the secret book of Apocalypse, and in chapter 13 described the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies exactly for this current time about two MAN Beasts, i.e. the MAN Beast of the sea-Re.13:1-10 and the MAN Beast of the earth having two horns like a LAMB, a FALSE LAMB, course, a false messiah, and he speaks as a dragon-Re.13:11-18,

and behold, it is already running to LITERALLY be fulfilled as a whole from now on, for sure, what Daniel prophesied millennia ago.

By the way, JESUS revealed-Re.16:13-15-and according verse 13 John "saw three unclean spirits like frogs(why frogs?)come out of the MOUTH of the dragon(Re.12:3-4&13:11),

and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(the Beast of sea),

and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet(who will manifest himself as messiah very soon), even in days to come in fulfillment of what JESUS prophesied- John 5:43-47. Get ready.

Verse 14 - For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of this great Day of GOD Almighty(the Lord's Day).

Verse 15 - JESUS warned: Behold, I come as a thief...

Therefore, get ready

Good evening Bennymkje, Thank you. Mostly I agree with what you wrote in both posts. It is very true that abiding in God's love, it is impossible to sin as we believe Jesus Christ is the Lord's anointed. We are to love the brethren and to live a life in the Spirit, in truth. Satan is a liar from the beginning and his lies continue though he is now bound in the same world that Jesus came in the flesh to. Satan's main voice would try to replicate the truth as he did in the garden. He made himself equal to God when the children of God only abide in God. The difference is eternal life or eternal death. This is a very important part of the Gospel. The last chapter of 1 John 5:18 "And we know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not." Verse 21 reminds us (as children) to keep ourselves from idols. Again, like a thief, the Bible says a man, must first bind the strong man before spoiling his house. The strong man is the world in our heart and Satan is that strong man, but by the Love of God, Jesus was sent to bind that strong man so that we can live in God as Satan's house is spoiled. I wrote in the beginning that the wound unto death to Satan might have healed overtime by some that have left off the love for the brethren by loving the world. Babylon is another word for the world by my understanding.

Hey catman, I agree. Especially when so many "theologians" here seem to know so much. They write pages and pages of theological "dissertations" designed to enlighten us. One of my favorite verses, by the way, is.. Revelation 19:10.. the last part of the verse... "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy"... just saying.

Hello everyone, thank you for all of your prayers. I appreciate your hard work and time. God bless you all.

Today I have a prayer request. My family had found a paper on their door for being sued of an accident that happened years ago. My father, a truck driver, was veering into a lane, he was a foot or so in before veering back out as he had noticed the car behind him. The women whipped the wheel by reaction and hit him, and said she and her husband were okay then. Now she finds herself having difficulty years later functioning to do housework. I ask for prayers for them as well. I can only imagine how difficult that must be. They state they have a witness, and expect fifty thousand dollars as compensation. No one has that money, and my entire family is sick struggling to get by with taking care of themselves alone. So I ask for the saints' prayers.

God can make all things possible, He loves and wants us to rely on Him and I'm so thankful He considers us. In Jesus name, I pray these mountains in our lives be moved and Lord give us faith in these trying times. I also pray that my family is in the right place, maybe this is a wake up call.

God bless every saint and bring us both comfort and peace. Thank you for your time, I hope you have a lovely day.

Great post , thank you .

Very interesting post , thank you and God bless you .

In response to Patrick Golding, Every baptism thar took place in the book of Acts was done so I. The name of Jesus Christ or in the name of Jesus. Please reread Acts this is what Jesus taught them to do as he walked and taught them for 40 days on earth after the resesurrection.

Thanks Brother Carleton and you are welcome.

God bless.

THE END

When the scriptures speak of THE END, what are they speaking about?

They are speaking about YOU, the END of YOU, life in this body of flesh and blood.

Every man has to COME to truth, NOW in this AGE, or latter in the AGES to come, the second resurrection.

Christ DEFEATED DEATH at his resurrection, he was resurrected with IMMORTAL life.

1 Timothy 6:16 .... Christ ONLY has IMMORTALITY .....

WE were resurrected with him, joint heirs WITH HIM, resurrected in HIS IMAGE, a marriage, we became ONE with CHRIST.

We are GIVEN an appointed amount OF TIME to come to truth.

Then comes THE END, if we are a MATURE SEED we are HARVESTED into the KINGDOM, IMMORTAL LIFE, if we never BELIEVED the words of GOD, we are cast into PRISON, DEATH and the GRAVE, the bottomless pit.

God Bless YOU!

Hi again Bennymkje, I responded to your thoughts and the comment vanished into the website somwhere!

:)

Oseas,

I do not digest the last line. Was the vision of Daniel fulfilled literally? "As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time."(Dan.7:12) The state and church alliance has moved further and what we read of the miracles in Re.13:13-14 belong to the latter days. The man clothed in linentells, "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."(12:9)

In 12:15-17 we have a glimpse of the AI and killer robots. "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed." Tagging pets with laser codes and Id of citizens electronically is suggested. "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."(13:17) This mark is Satan's way of counting heads as God has his name in the foreheads of his servants. ("an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads."Re.14:1) This need not be in literal sense but those who work actively to further the cause of the beast is one bidden to his servitude.

Carleton,

Satan shall try every means to prevent the Salvation Plan of God from reaching its goal. One third of the stars he shall cause to slip from their positions. ("And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:"-Re.12:4), But the word of God is clear, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."(1 John4:4). So the only thing expected of us is to to be steadfast, quit ourselves like men. Let faith have is full scope and the grace of God shall do the rest.

Thank you Bennymkje, It is true that Jesus in his resurrection in a believers regenerated life has given the believer power over Satan if they continue to hear the Shepherd's voice. However Satan was only wounded and his voice is also present if one chooses to listen. Satan is an ally to the flesh and we cannot loosen his chains by unbelief. The parable of the thief overcoming the strongman is Jesus speaking of Himself (this you likely have heard before).

Carleton

today i start at the begining,

Bennymkje The beast-2(1 of 2)

You quoted Rev.13:1-2:

I see that John,the Apostle,as a Jewish citzen,one among the"sand' of the sea-i.e.descendants of Abraham,saw a Beast rise up out of the sea(rose up out of the Gentile peoples/nations- Revelation 17:15),having seven heads and ten horns,and upon his horns ten crowns,and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.What's name? Revelation 13:18 says:Here is wisdom.Let him that has understanding COUNT the number of the Beast:for it is the number of a MAN;and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

/And the Beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD,and his feet were as the feet of a BEAR,and his mouth as the mouth of a LION:and the dragon( Revelation 13:11)gave him his Power,and his Seat(in Jerusalem),and great Authority.(In this verse 2 is revealed the ROOTS/THE ORIGIN of the Beast of sea for those who looking back in time,even from when John saw the Apocalypse and we also see from these current days,but Daniel in His vision of the future Beast of sea he wrote that he saw 4 great Beasts that came up from the SEA(from Gentile nations),diverse one from another,as follow:

The 1st was like a LION,

and the 2nd Beast like to a BEAR,

after this I beheld the 3rd like a LEOPARD;(John and we,looking back,we see 1st leopard,2nd bear, and 3rd lion-Rev.13:2)

and behold a 4th Beast,dreadful and terrible,and strong exceedingly;and it had great IRON teeth:it devoured and brake in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it:and it was DIVERSE from all the(3)Beasts that were before it;and it had 10 horns(that is the Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-whose embryo was formed in the Roman Empire-in the 4th Beast)

I considered the(10)horns(linked to the Beast of sea)and behold,there came up among them(among 10 horns-10 tribes)another little horn(the illeventh horn will rise up from the earth-from the little Israel-a Beast like a lamb,a false lamb- Revelation 13:11 combined with John 5:43-47)

The vision of Daniel fulfilled LITERALLY

Amen brother ronald

god bless you!

Amen RicoUS and Gigi. Dear God, we pray that the hostages be released. That the media report the truth. We pray for the salvation for all, for Your Honor and Glory. Amen

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Not to be a pessimist because by nature, I'm truly very much an optimist. Humanity has been seeing signs of end times for hundreds of years, if not 2000+ years. I'm always hesitant about attemptibg to make predictions and foretell a potential eminent end of time event. Not that I'm not just as any and ready to move on (hopefully to Heaven) as what you are but because we're told that neither the angels nor Christ know when the end will be but only God does know. I feel like making declarations of an eminent end of time is somewhat taking a position of "I know better" than God's Word. I absolutely support and believe that it is both wise and prudent to be ready at any given moment. But 'end times prophets' have never given me a sense of enrichment. I can easily see that it is not your purpose but to many, it is seem as fear mongering. I don't think that but many would.

Lord in the mighty name of Jesus we stand in agreement we thank you and praise you that your will be done.

Please pray for my family. Please pray the Lord will open their eyes and call them to him. I stand in agreement with every prayer and I pray that Gods will be done. Father God I thank you for allowing me to post this so others can stand in agreement with me. Lord I come humbly but boldly before you believing that you and only you are our only hope. I praise you and thank you for your precious blood that was shed on Calvary for my sins. Lord I know that it is your will that no man should perish. I pray in Jesus name that your will be done. thank you to all that pray God bless you and I'm so grateful I found this prayer request I pray i can be as faithful to pray for others as they are for me. Thank you in Jesus mighty name.

As has been mentioned, numbers and their combinations are numerology and astrology which fit under the more broad term 'sorcery'. And while we are to have np part in these things, I think that it is equally as important to remember that while we do not utilize these for any purpose, there are those who do and because Satan and evil are both very real, unfortunately, these various numbers do have power. Evil power but power nonetheless. My birthday is on March 20th. I couldn't tell you how many tines I've looked at a clock and it was 3:20. I've even woken up many tines in the middle of the night and it was 3:20am. Or, how many tines have I looked at a clock and it was 12:34am/pm. Do I think these mean anything? Nope. Just random occurrences Most likely because I anticipate seeing them and I'm adjusted to looking at a clock at these times.

There are however, two numbers that do have strong powers. One is mentioned in the Bible and is 3 numbers, which are the same and are found in Revelation 13:18. I just don't like the number so I let it be.Abd then, there is one other number which is frequently used against us and that is the number 33. I hate mentioning it because you will now notice how often it is deployed by thise who are evil. I assure you, it is everywhere. Might be an address, the time, the speed you're traveling in your vehicle, the remaining percentage of charge on your cell phone, the radio volume in your vehicle, a page number you happen to be on, a news report (big tine during the C19 scam!). It is absolutely everywhere and when you realize it, you'll have a better grasp of just how surrounded by evil we truly are. This is the highest ranking freemason, 33rd degree, complete satanism.

We are to have nothing to do with these things but we must recognize that there are many who do and they utilize these numbers to inflict harm and worse. If we fail to recognize this, we only blind ourselves to the ever-present Satan and hus evil that seeks to destroy us

Revelations 22:18-19