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by angelic hosts, saints, and believers along with the Father, we have to conclude that God is a unity of Persons as One Being or else God would have lied about being the only God and there is no others beside Him. Yet, just as Isaiah 45:23 says that every knee shall bow and every tongue swear" and in Philippians 2:10-11 says that every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus is LORD to the glory of God."

Isaiah 45:25" In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified.." so in Jesus, the promised Seed of Abraham, are all the seed of Abraham justified. Gal. 3:8;14 that is , those who believe in Jesus, whether Jew or Gentile.

Adam, thank you again for holding firm on this doctrine. We need to continue to speak forth what the Scriptures say concerning Who Jesus truly is, by the words He spoke, the inspired words of the apostles, and the works of Jesus that only God could do (forgive sins, heal the sick, give sight to the blind, control the weather, cast out demons, and be the only perfect sacrifice to atone for our sins.

Oseas:

I agree, how ever you want to say it.

Ephesians 4:4 .... ONE SPIRIT ....

God Bless YOU!

In John 10: 1 Why is He capitalize in the verse.

Adam, I am happy to continue to pray for your healing. I know that the Lord needs only to speak the word and you will be healed. So I have asked Him to speak the word over you that will being healing.

Keep me posted. I want to hear of your progress and how the Lord answers our prayers.

Also, Thanks for defending the doctrine of the deity of Jesus. It is a vital doctrine of the faith and one that we should not compromise on or diminish its importance in order to "get along" with others who deny His deity.

God is His infinite wisdom, determined that the only way to redeem and save people from their sins and be victorious over it is by a Savior who is both God and man. This was decided in eternity prior to creation within the Godhead. The One Triune God is the only Savior for man. No mere human can be our Savior because no one can live a perfect and sin-free life but God in human flesh-not even a human person who is filled to the max with the Holy Spirit, since the fact that there is a maximum that a human can be filled means there is a limit. But Jesus possesses the Spirit without limit, infinitely and eternally, just as He possesses the Father without limit, infinitely and eternally, and the Father possesses the Son without limit, infinitely and eternally, and the Spirit without measure, infinitely, and eternally. And likewise, the Spirit possesses the Son and the Father without limit, infinitely and eternally. This unity in the Godhead is unique to the One Being of God. They are "in" one another yet still distinct Persons. We cannot fully understand this, but we can believe it.

The Last Supper discourse is replete with references to the Oneness of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is difficult to read these chapters and not get that God exists as a Unity of three Persons-One God, not three gods.

When we are commanded to worship God alone in Deut. 6:4-5 and no other gods ( Deut. 5:7) and when Revelations contains so many verses where Jesus is worshipped....

Hello Adam,

As you know from my most recent posts, I truly believe that Jesus is God. You directed your question to "Jesse" which is my user name. The question should have been directed to Jesse A, not Jesse. I will never post anything under the name Jesse A. I only go by the name Jesse, not Jesse A. I have been concerned about this for some time now that when people see the name Jesse A, they are going to think it is me. This is not me. Again, I only go by Jesse.

I hope you understand my concern.

Thanks Adam!

Thank you, God bless you, GiGi.

Thanks, but I don't need to listen to someone's conspiracy theory when I already know the truth that the earth is round. God says in the Bible it's a circle, and I use God-given logic to know the truth. I shared 2 ways to quickly know the truth about the earth, but I know you ignore it. If believing in a flat earth was part of my identity, I guess I'd be too embarrassed to do that simple test too, knowing that it might debunk the belief. The one thing I agree with you on is to question everything. God bless.

OK Earl, Thanks for explaining.

As for me I have never reported you to admin nor advocated for you to be prevented from posting.

I do think that your continued insistence that we are gods and have equal power and authority as Jesus is heretical.

All authority and power were given Jesus after His resurrection, reclaiming the power and authority He had with the Father prior to His incarnation. Mt. 28:28; 2Ch. 20:6; Rev. 4:11; 5:12; 19:1; 1:6

As Adam says, there is only one God; there will never ever be any other God than the God revealed in Scripture as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-one God over all.

Earl, my suggestion to you is that when you come on this site under a knew name you identify yourself as Earl somewhere in your post. That way we can know for sure that we are conversing with you.

If admin continues to prevent you from posting, then perhaps that is because they, too, determine that your beliefs that you have posted again and again are seriously heretical and damaging to believers.

This is a good example of flawed logic as referred to earlier.

You seem to suggest you believe Jesus is the Son of God, but can't be God because he's already the Son of God.

Jesse, do you have kids?

If so, you would be a dad, correct? But you're also a son. But how can someone be both a "father" and a "son" at the same time. Surely that's impossible! This exposes one of your logical assumptions you used.

But the same argument could also be made for God the Father. He's already called the Father, so how can He also be God, if He's already the Father? Believing flawed human logic instead of scripture.

The second false assumption is thinking that Jesus can't be God, because [according to you] you don't think He would pray to Himself. But the Bible says Jesus created everything and was always there from the beginning ( John 1) before He relegated Himself to being a temporary man. You then take Jesus's actions as a temporary man and falsely assuming He was never anything but a man and that all of His actions as a temporary man is permanently how He is. That's quite an assumption. Also, the Son was praying to the Father, was He not? And the verse saying the Father and Son are one- do you believe that?

This post is more for others, because the truth needs to be shared instead of the anti-Bible propaganda people post here.

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6 KJV

Do you believe Jesus is Lord? Do you believe He's the King of Israel, and King of the Jews? Do you believe He's the Alpha and Omega, first and last like the Bible says?

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Revelation 22:13 KJV

"besides me there is no God" He says. But I'm sure people will keep believing in whatever appeases them, rather than what the Bible actually says. God bless.

"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." 1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV

"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV

"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6 KJV

You said you think Jesus is "a GOD". This is shocking to read.

Have you read the verses above that say there is one God? Do you believe those verses? If so, why do believe there is more than one God?

Then you continue with flawed human logic: this can't be true because of [this], etc.

The rest of what you wrote does not seem consistent with scripture. What religion do you identify with?

Sister Gigi:

I explained this to you two names ago.

When you and Brother S Spencer, Brother Jesse, and Brother Chris start going between yourselves saying I am a false teacher, someone complains to administration and they stop me from posting.

If you believe I am teaching incorrectly, just prove it to me by the scriptures, I have repented of my beliefs 100's of times.

God's word says we all start out being deceived, so we must constantly repent of our false beliefs as light is shined into darkness.

God's words cannot contradict themselves, so when we run up against scriptures the contradict other scriptures we hold true, we have to revisit our beliefs and aline them with God's words.

This is a race we cannot lose, but we can take the long way, and not cross till the second resurrection.

God Bless YOU!

Brother Adam:

No one has said Jesus is not a GOD.

But Christ IS NOT Christ's God, and Christ's Father, which is SPIRIT.

Christ's God and Father, is the LIFE in Christ's Body.

As Christ's God and Christ's Father is the LIFE of Christ

Christ's God and Christ's Father hath GIVEN Christ power to have LIFE in HIMSELF.

John 5:26

BY his death and resurrection he is OUR GOD and OUR FATHER.

God with us and in us.

Psalms 136:2 O give thanks to the God of gods, for his mercy endureth forever.

Christ's has GIVEN his children the same POWER he has, by being the LIFE and POWER of his SEED.

When Christ has raised all the DEAD unbelievers at the second resurrection, Christ's saint will exercise that POWER unto JUDGEMENT.

God Bless YOU!

Hey Mary Jay, the reference that you gave, my god, my god.. I'm convinced he was quoting that to show the "fulfillment" was at hand regarding psalms 22... I'm sure that many that were at the crucifixion probably gasped at the thought when they remembered the rest of the psalm.

Ronald, Thank you for your answers. Now I understand your beliefs about the Jesus, the Son of God.

I appreciate your candid replies.

Mary Jay, Earl, Jordyn, ELB,

Why do you keep changing your screen name?

S. Spencer, I thought the same that Jordyn (AKA) Earl Bowman) is now posting as Mary Jay. His signature way of "speaking" is so very evident. Sad that he feels he must act in such a way to seem deceptive.

Mary Jay

The correct is to say: GOD gave to John the Baptist the same spirit He had given to Elijah, like was also with Elisha- 2Kings 2:13-15. Take a look.

GOD BLESS

I meant: 2Kings 2:13-15

F Major

Greetings in Christ JESUS

No, both ARE NOT the same person, of course, that theory is of spiritism, spiritists believe in reincarnation. What GOD made was to give the same spirit of Elijah to John the Baptist, by the way, John was/is an angel of the Lord, he was born by the Word of GOD, I mean by prophecy, according Isaiah 4O and Malachi 3.

By your better understanding, GOD had made the same with Elisha. 2Kings 13-15

13 Elisha took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;

14 And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the Lord GOD of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.

15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him.

Luke 9:29-30

29 And as JESUS prayed, the fashion of His countenance was altered, and His raiment was white and glistering.

30 And, behold, there talked with Him two men, which were Moses and Elijah:

31 Who appeared IN GLORY, and spake of His decease which He should accomplish at Jerusalem.

GOD bless

Oseas,

Thank you for your thoughts and adding to the discussion.

Yes, we are to reap; however, we are still called to sow the seed. Matthew 28: 18-20. This is because we don't know when the LORD JESUS comes and our work is ended here on earth. We keep sowing, because GOD is not willing that any one perish, but all come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9.

For one plants, another waters, but GOD gives the increase.

1 Corinthians 3:6-11

We sow through CHRIST JESUS in our testimony, and witness as people see our daily relationship with our SAVIOR. In our sharing and declaring of the Salvation of the LORD. Titus 2:11-14.

GOD bless you in your ministry of faith. November 29, 2023

Yes, Jesus is God. He is because the Bible says He is, like John 1:1 and many other places. Can someone truly be a Christian and not believe Christ's divinity? Satan deceives even Christians and those deceived seem to remain stubborn and not readily admit they've been conned. It seems no amount of Bible verses even matter at this point. It doesn't matter than 10 says He is God, or 100, they've made up their mind it seems. Jesus's own name Immanuel means "God with us."

Huge thread of Bible verses:

Link

Those who seem motivated to campaign against Jesus and attack and try to demean him seem like enemies of Christ. Would someone who loves Jesus do that? The same old tired straw man arguments and flawed human logic is somehow viewed as carrying more weight than the scriptures themselves. Cherry picking and twisting a few verses occurs while ignoring a mountain of clear verses saying Jesus is God, like John 1:1. But as the Bible says in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 people will seek out fables and turn to lies to satisfy their fleshly itching ears. It is disgusting.

John 3:16 says what people are saved from.

Lee the follower:

yes, we were first married to the law: written in stones.

that was our school teacher.

we learned from our schoolmaster: that that law leads to death.

christ came and changed the law, from death to life by the life of the spirit indwelling us.

all creation (sinful flesh) died on the cross of christ.

only the body of christ arose, by the spirit of life, a new cretion, one flesh, one body.

2 timothy 1:1 ... according to the promise of life, which is christ jesus ....

john 17:22 and the glory thou gavest me, i have given them, that they may be one, even as we are one.

all by the works of christ's cross.

god bless you!

F Major:

NO, they were two different men, under the control of the SAME SPIRIT.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit IN YOU and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements and DO THEM.

God Bless you

Great information Brother Jesse.

God bless you.

Hi Lee the follower.

It's nice to see you return.

Jordyn is now posting as Mary Jay,

You may be able to reach out directly to him.

May the Lord bless you in your inquiries.

QUESTION?

Do you exist, other than being the BODY of Christ?

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I (as the body) live, yet NOT I, but CHRIST ......

this mystery... HIDDEN from the foundation of the world

QUESTION?

Is Christ God?

Ephesians 4:13 Till WE ALL COME into the UNITY of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a PERFECT MAN, unto the measure of the FULLNESS of Christ.

Colossians 2:9 For IN HIM dwelleth all the FULLNESS of the Godhead BODILY.

Colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ..... Christ IN YOU ......are you not the body of Christ .....

1 Corinthians 12:27 ... ye are the BODY of Christ ......

John 19:34 ..... Is it not written IN YOU LAW, I HAVE SAID, Ye are gods?

GOD WILL SEND STRONG DELUSION-THAT THEY BELIEVE A LIE

The false messiah,the main head of the universal and religious and satanic Antichrist's Kingdom,is at door- John 5:43-47

Will be also elected the next and last Pope.It is he who will rule the first half of the last week:42 months- Luke 21:24 combined with Re.11:2 and 13:5-.Will be his nickname Paul VII?

The Word is GOD. Isaiah 66:4 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:12 and Matthews 24:15-25KJV:

Isaiah 66:v.4:

4 I also will choose their delusions,and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called,none did answer;when I spake,they did not hear:but they did evil before mine eyes,and chose that in which I delighted not.

2Thessalonians 2:8-12:

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed,whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth-His Word- , and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;because they received not the love of the truth,that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be DAMNED who believed not the Truth - believed not in JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Matthew 24:15-25

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,spoken of by Daniel the prophet,stand in the holy place(whoso readeth,let him understand)

You know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea.

Now GOD's people will have to go through(I mean win a war)against the Red Dragon,a Red Dragon yes

Isaiah 26:21-22

20Come,my people,enter thou into thy chambers,and shut thy doors about thee:hide thyself as it were for a little moment,until the indignation be overpast

21For,behold,the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity:the earth also shall disclose her blood,and shall no more cover her slain.

Get ready

QUESTION?

Can you be EQUAL to your God, and yet, not be your God?

What would make you EQUAL to God?

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind BE IN YOU, which was also IN CHRIST JESUS,

Philippians 2:6 Who being in the form of GOD, though it not robbery, to be equal to God.