Romans Chapter 1 Discussion Page 5

Romans chapter 1

What does verse 3,4 , 9 have in. Common ?

Please refer to your bible Genesis 1,2,3. Please note that the world would have been a perfect place had our ancestors: Adam and Eve been obedient. Today, the world experiences higher forms of sins, crimes, frauds, events as a result of man's disobedience.

How is it possible for you to know the eternalness of God! The whole world is full of sin, their is none righteous, no not one. Who are you to judge these things O man! Our sin has separated us from God. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. God became poor that we might be made rich! He became flesh and dwelt among us. He has died, but one time ,on the cross that all men might be saved. This is the message! This is the message!

Thou almost persuades me, until you use the word grapple. Grapple will never work, you have allowed the sin of unbelief to enter in! You cannot grapple the word of God! It is a stone that cannot be moved! A stone that only a person of faith will here. You are filling the footsteps of the elite, very well!

Sanctification ,justification, redemption, are yours through faith in shed blood of Christ! This grace is given for the world! Never mind what Calvin , or Luther, or the pope think! Your salvation is complete in him. If you do not except the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior, you will know the answer when you die. The answer written, cannot be changed! Let God be true and every man a liar!

God gave them over to the mind they desired (reprobate) but He did not leave them there without the possibility of conversion We all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (our choice), But God intervened by sending His Son to pay the wages (death) by living a perfect, sinless life; nailed to a Cross; died there, and rose again and is now in Heaven to intercede for those who believe in Him. To believe as Calvinists teach that God specified who will be saved and the rest left to burn in the lake of fire is without merit. Jesus died for all ( John 3:16)! God sent His Holy Spirit (another Comforter) to teach and lead us into the perfection we must have to enter into Heaven. Everyone is on equal ground. God is no respecter of persons. Most will choose to be destroyed (Broad is the gate that leadeth to destruction and most will choose this one). Choose the narrow! You will not be disappointed and all of Heaven stands ready to get you there. We must prayer to have the mind of Jesus. Blessings, Steve

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the righteous of ggod part one

Such questions we can only grapple with because God is infinitely more wise than we are:

O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! ( Romans 11:33)

Romans 9 has some further development of this mystery of why the LORD bestows grace and mercy on some.

He knows the end from the beginning, and surely he knows the point where a person, by their own free will, will remain obstinate in unbelief, thereby ratifying their own destruction.

God does not want anyone to go to Hell:

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. ( John 3:17)

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. ( 2 Peter 3:9)

When God does something it's forever .

You may need to know that God knows beginning to end . So his sovereign decision is not with out total knowledge.

Can we intercede for them yes we are instructed to pray for all men . They in themselves will never repent . But God may hear and answer our prayers , but the answer is his again . Possible for them to get saved ? I'd say so but doubtful .

It says God gave them up to a reprobate mind, I looked up the meaning or the word reprobate and found about 17 words describing that scary condition. If God gives someone a reprobate mind does that mean they are doomed and won't seek repentance or is their mind so far gone that they are happy where they are and can't seek repentance. The definition also said that calvanism says they were predestined for hell. So my question is no matter what the sin if God gives you over to a reprobate mind does he also take away the ability to repent and just leave you happy in your sin not wanting to

Paul wrote 13, Romans through Philemon.

How many books did Paul write?

There are no female angels in Heaven or earth. There are no male angels either. Angels are neither male or female. They are sexless.They can not reproduce.

are there any female angels in heaven

Matthew 12

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When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

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Then he saith, I will return into my house (your body) from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it EMPTY, swept, and garnished.

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Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Ephesians 6

If we do not fill our spiritual house, with the Bible; we will have spiritual warfare. Which as you see in Eph. 6, "they" are invisible. They don't want to wander around without bodies. The unsaved, the wicked or the unlearned of the wisdom of the Bible, can be attacked.

"They are identified by their Fruit: hindering, harassing, sicknesses, depression, violence, sexual impurities, cursing, occult fascinations, hatred of Jesus, or antichrist spirits.

We must be filled with the Holy Spirit. You must rely on the victory of Jesus over the devil. We must understand the power of Jesus's Blood atonement for sin.

Sometimes I wonder why we argue about what day is Sabbath on; Who killed Cain; which Bible Version to read....

We need to be learning what our Authority in Jesus Name is. Authority of the believer over demonic beings; how to bind them and cast them out. How to pray for the sick and those oppressed by Satan and his agents of suffering. How to keep our families covered in prayer.

Take a good look at the madness of the world we're living in. Do you see the fruits now?

1 Peter 5:8

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Mishael

Melissa,

I hope you are not done with this.

Scriptures tell us to be diligent and search them out.

Scriptures tell us to Ask, and to seek.

Scriptures tell us to be prepared to defend our beliefs.

Scriptures tell us to love one another,

By edification,

By prayer,

By fellowship,

By spreading the Gospel.

Gifts, knowledge, conviction, strength, teaching; all come from the Holy Spirit (Comforter, etc.)

Although we may disagree with our brother or sister, we should take it to the Lord in prayer, search the Scriptures, and be prepared for the light received from the Holy Ghost.

Prayers and Blessings for your continued journey. We never know how Jehovah or Yahshua will use us to touch another.

"And it came to pass, as her soul was in departing, (for she died) that she called his name Benoni: but his father called him Benjamin."

capt 35

Melissa, I agree with your understanding of Romans 1 in as far as the apostle was condemning the unbelievers there of debauchery in respect of their idolatry & very likely the practise of temple prostitution as you detailed.

However, Rom 1:26 begins with, "For this cause". It was for those reasons, where they abused their knowledge (or thirst) for knowing God to turn to idolatry & worshipped wicked representations of Him instead. So God gave them up "to vile affections". I don't see this part as applicable to men & women being involved in debauchery within the temple worship. It clearly states, "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet." (vv 26, 27).

Women changed the natural use (of their bodies) & likewise, men leaving the natural use of women by lusting after other men - men with men. Clearly, this is not a picture of temple prostitution but of homosexuality - a result of God giving them over to the wickedness of their hearts. But if you believe that the men "did what they did because they believed it drew them closer to the goddess", then it would take a 'long pull of the bow' to convince me that their acts could be carried out only for temple worship & not a reflection of their normal deviant behaviour. And verses 28-32 further describe their general condition & they stood under God's judgement. So we don't misquote the Bible, rather consider and quote from all the Scriptures with conviction. These are God's Words & those who wish to pursue lifestyles outside the purposes of God & with unconfessed sin, stand under His Judgement & not ours. Our only desire that all people might be saved, repenting of their sin & receiving new life from God.

Dear Melissa the bible clearly teaches against sin. whether it be gay or lesbian, sin is sin. what shall we say then, shall we continue in sin that grace may abound, God forbid. i didn't say that Paul did. i love all people of sin , i just hate sin. God hates all sin and yes the old testament was to Gods people but is applicable to us as well. God destroyed people in the old testament because of this sin. would not the same rule apply to us today?

Romans 1 is speaking of idolatry not homosexuality. Even the women left the natural use, does not mean they became lesbians, it means they were allowing men in the pagan temple of the Goddess Diana of Rome to sodomize them because that's what the goddess required, and they believed it drew them closet to the goddess. For they worship the creature . the creature was the goddess Diana- notice the word worship= idolatry. The men visiting the pagan temple were not gay, they did what the did because they believed it drew them closer to the goddess. 2. Notice paul here is addressing the church @ Rome about christians who once knew the truth and went back to their idol worshipping ways, Paul is not speaking to or about pagans, he is speaking about those who once knew the truth and departed from it. I laugh at how christians mis-quote the bible. 3. Old testament is not Christianity, Leviticus was written to jews not to christians. It's amazing how christians cherry pick the bible to bash homosexuals. Notice they never speak of if u were not a virgin upon marrying you were stoned to death, we don't sacrifice lambs anymore either. I am done with this. I got dizzy trying to explain this.

Isaiah 5

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:

23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

>These kind of statements reveal the long suffering character of God. If we can wrap our minds around it; first we must change ourselves. Hallelujah, because we have the mind of Christ, and we have the Holy Spirit to be our Helper.

We know what He cares about, and we can add that knowledge in when we are witnessing to the unsaved.

By prayer to the Lord of the Harvest, we don't have to cold-contact , evil, violent people. He will bring those who are ready to hear the Gospel... who is Jesus.

We are now living in a day that right is wrong and wrong is right and people find pleasure in the sins of others rather than stand up against it. we as Christians are shepherds of the flock and are to stand up against the wolves of the world. stand up stand up for Jesus. This starts at home, then out into the world.

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

My dear brother indeed the words of the Holy Spirit are true so the Holy Bible are also true to the Christian because we walk by faith without faith the words in the bible are not understood because the words of the Bible are spiritual not of the natural. May love follow you in words and faith.

So if u believe Gods word is not true.(who then created you?Gods word he says ""I know every hair on your head "".I formed you in your mothers whom.God created the heavens and the earth.No one created God God has always exsisted.God spoke the worlds into exsistance..Have you ever Read Gods word.?Its a sad state of a person when you die there is Heaven there is Hell. .When you die your fate is sealed.salvation is a free gift.who turns down a free gift?.Think about it.

Romans 1:16-17 is often used as the key verses to summarize the book of Romans. Paul declares boldly why he is not ashamed of the gospel about Jesus that he preaches around the world. This message is nothing less than the power of God for everyone who believes, both Jews and Gentiles. It is about being declared righteous by God because of our faith in Him. Paul put the same idea this way in Philippians 3:8-9: "that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith." This is God's gospel: God's "good news" for humanity. Paul quotes Habakkuk 2:4 to show this is not a new idea: "The righteous shall live by his faith."

Remember Paul was on his way to persecute Christians when Jesus said to Simon "why do you persecute me Jesus light so bright it blinded him for 3 days and his heart was change in an instant, therefore hypocrisy is out of the picture since Jesus forgave him on the spot and Jesus renamed him Paul to show the change in his heart. So no he can't be a hipocrypt.

This comment is a false interpretation. What's ironic is the very chapter that's being critiqued predicted this sentiment in verses 20-25. Those with a closed and darkened heart won't comprehend it.

"You know you are"...lol...You are not correct...You know (nothing)...

I neglected to mention above that the full list of objectionable behaviors in the latter half of Romans 1 is the result of the wrong choices initially made in verses 21-23. An evil root yields detestable fruit.