Revelation Chapter 19 Discussion Page 4

The Man of Sin

12 - The man of sin is called 'the son of perdition' ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3). Judas was the only other person to be called this.

13 - The man of sin 'sits in the temple of God professing to be like God' ( 2 Thessalonians 2:4). Meaning the man of sin sits in a leadership position in 'the professed church' acting like he is god.

There is only one man who matches this description perfectly, and that is the pope(s) of the Papal Church of Rome. 12 - Judas was also called 'the son of perdition' ( John 17:12). So calling the man of sin by this name also, means the man of sin would be like Judas - A DECEIVER FROM WITHIN THE CHURCH. 13 - The pope(s) sit in the Roman Catholic Church acting like he is god on earth giving out indulgences to forgive sins, which only our Heavenly Father can do and being called 'holy father', a title which only our Heavenly Father has ( Mark 10:18).

'Antichrists' in 1 John

14 - John confirms in 1 John 2 that those who were antichrists professed to be followers of Jesus, but 'went out' from the TRUE church and revealed themselves to not be true followers of the Lord.

14 - The leaders of the Roman Catholic Church profess to be followers of Jesus, but they have made manifest that they 'went out from' the TRUE church and it's true original teachings to follow after heresy and Pagan traditions.

Papal Rome is indeed not what Paul saw in his day. However the Bible defines what antichrist means.

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.) If they refuse to use the name Jesus as the angel Gabriel named him and use Yeshua I suspect they may not what be they claim to be

1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah?

1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

Rome did not kill Jesus. John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.

Pilate wanted to release Jesus.

King James Bible book of John 5:16 And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST

Papal Rome is the beast, and anti christ I will let them tell you themseves.

The word "anti" in antichrist does not mean someone who is going to be openly anti (against) Christ. That word "anti" in the original Bible language can actually mean "IN PLACE OF". So could the bible antichrist be someone who has actually put himself "in place of" Christ? Well, we have further Bible evidence to support this. In 1 John 2:18-19 it says that there were "many antichrists", who "WENT OUT FROM THE CHURCH". In other words, John is pointing to the fact that those "antichrists" were WITHIN THE CHURCH!! Not only that, but Paul in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 calls the man of sin the "son of perdition". Now there is only one other place in the Bible where the name "son of perdition" is used, and that is in John 17:12 talking about JUDAS! And what was Judas? A professing follower of Christ Jesus. Someone who deceived from WITHIN the "church".

"The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who TAKES THE PLACE of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994).

"ANTI" - Christ = "IN PLACE OF" Christ!

How can I see the teaching's of your Pastor on Rev Marriage Supper of the Lamb.. I would love to see his insight on the matters.. Thk yu. GB InJesusNm!

The beast and the false prophet that are going to be cast alive in the lake of fire burning with brimstone in Rev. 19:20 are still there in Rev. 20:10 when the devil is cast in. They have not been burned up. This is also where the people who have rejected God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit will be cast in Rev. 20:11-15. Many people think that when you die, that's it, but this proves otherwise.

Of course, this all happened in the First Century. Try reading it like that and see what insights you gain.

I AM THINKING THAT THE ONES WHO DIDNOT WORSHIP SATAN GROUP BUT HAS FAITH IN GOD LIVE THE THOUSAND YEARS WITH CHRIST ,HAS NOT BEEN BORN AGAIN ARE THE ONES SATAN DECEIVED THEY HEART WAS NOT RIGHTEOUS THEY HAS THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT

The Bad Part is that the World will not know that it has been Deceived until the testimony of Gods Elect ( The Ones With The Seal Of God In Their Foreheads) begins at The Synagogues Of Satan .

Verses 11-16~Jehovah God will use Jesus Christ and his heavenly army to destroy the wicked.

By this shall know that your are my disciples, if you have love one for another.

Steve M; I see you wrote me about every ten to fifteen minutes: What exactly is it that you want to say? The Scriptures you write are the Bread of my life and all my soul's delight. I trust in the mercy of God, and know how unworthy I am of the least of His mercies. But He HAS had mercy on me! And I love Him with ALL my heart! What is my fault in your opinion, that you so pursue me?

"I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus." Isaiah 8:20 says, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." If a man speaks against the Truth, and if he deny that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, he is of antichrist.

Love the site KJBO. Another great resource for me has been the teaching of the book of Revelation series by Pastor. In his message 'The Man on the White Horse' he gives many insights concerning Jesus return without retreat and also concerning the marriage supper of the lamb. It isn't what I have always been taught, but I am very glad for the truth I have learned.

Good Steve- Look now at Rev 12:17- Here are they who KEEP the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus- explained in 19:10- which is the spirit of prophecy. This means that those who keep His commandments will be explained prophecy by His Spirit. IF we love Him keep His commandments AND He will pray the FATHER and He will send.... it's about obedience and resisting SIN which is death

Christ returns as a warrior at the 7th trump. Scripture also says with fire and hail stones up to 180 lbs will be falling and Satans head with be crushed. It's some thing to think about when the peacefully sweet talking false messiah who can perform supernatural tricks gets here and the world loves him. wait for the true Christ Don't be taken from the field or from the house-by lies.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.


WOW ! WOW ! WOW ! Amen!

Rev. 20:11-21 - GOD the Avenger extends HIS invitation to the Great Supper for all the fowls of the air

GOD's word will not return unto HIM void, it will accomplish in that to which it is sent. Rev. 19:2 - When GOD speaks, it is purposed and understood that it is accomplished. It waits for the manifestation to reveal it to man. GOD is not man, HE will avenge HIS people because vengence belongs to HIM and not to man. HE has declared: I am coming, not as savior this time but, with a vengeance.

Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

And I fell on my face to worship him and he said: See that thou do it NOT: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus ( Rev 19:10) Worship God! Not saints, not spirit, not Mary....GOD. No priest can forgive you. Only God, the Father with his only begotten (not created) Son as our intercessor. "I am the way, the truth and the life and noone come to Father but by me

Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.

Amen and Amen. To be able to witness Gods magnificence! No one can imagine !

The proper translation is 4 living things. Beasts are world powers. They more than likely are Seraphim. They and the elders worship before the throne day and night proclaiming God's Glory - Hallelujah ! I'll bet it's an awesome sight. I'll be happy just to sweep the floor! Just please let me in.

It's 4 creatures and they guard the throne. They were put there after the attempted overthrow by Satan who took a third of Gods children away from God and the wicked one sows his tares to earth, Matt. 13:36 to 44.

Hi Amanda. Many commentators have compared the four beasts found in this book to the seraphim written of in Isaiah 6. You might like to have a read of that. There's a commentary by Matthew Henry of that chapter found on this site that might also prove useful. Hope that helps.

Can someone please give me their opinion of what the four beasts in Revelation 19:4 is reference to? Thank you.

Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; James 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

Jude1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.