Revelation Chapter 19 Discussion Page 2

Thank you very much I will do that.

Hi Martha, you can look up J Vernon Mcgee commentary on Revelation 18 and 19, on blue letter bible or Thru the Bible site. he does a good job on it, hope that helps.

In this verse, who or what was the "great whore"?

Why in Deuteronomy chapter 22 is forbidden to wear garment of linen and wool?

What is the Dream that you saw?

Comments by Alex about my thoughts on the parable of the Sower and his precious seed. Jesus said know ye not this parable how then will you know all Parables, Understanding this parable has to come from God self ,Jesus said that many righteous men and prophets have desired to see what you see and hear what you hear but saw them NOT. Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. It ALL goes back to the great PROMISE OF MULTIPLICATION, THATS Y THE SOWER WILL GO FORTH TO SOW HIS PRECIOUS SEED, THAT HE MIGHT BE MULTIPLIED AS THE STARS OF HEAVEN IN US ( HUMANITY ) @ THE LAST DAY . The words of Wonder and the book that Daniel saw was SEALED till the last day. which is the book in the right hand of the Father that is sealed with 7 seals . God was so passionate about this GREAT PROMISE that he swore by his very self .There is no other PROMISE IN THE BIBLE where GOD swore by himself . Impling that he himself was gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven. Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the WORD ( the seed of the Sower ) came it made them Gods, Thats what the H.G is the multiplication of God, and thats y Jesus refers to the H.G as the Promise he is the multiplication of Christ/GOD via that good seed the WORD of the Kingdom as Jesus said. Thus the essence of this parable is CHILD BIRTH A BABY CHRIST BORN IN US, Multiplication, Thats y Jesus said the GOOD SEED are the Children of the Kingdom.Jesus is gona multiply himself in us sinners That was the great PROMISE ( MULTIPLICATION ) Thus the need for a heavenly sower and his seed that results in a new heart and a new spirit, the NEW BIRTH which is a BABY Christ born in us that hear the word th seed of the sower th bridegroom. Thus an ISRAEL OF GOD BORN IS US VIA THE SEED OF CHRIST. Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME. the Kingdom has to come via a seed a birth when Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he said unto US a child is born,unto us a Son is given,Thats the GOOD NEWS Christ is gona multiply himself in us .

Miss J, I had a similar experience, minus the dream of a burning house, of where the Lord clearly spoke to me whilst in morning prayer about forsaking all to serve Him. As background info, I attended a small Fellowship of vibrant believers & who even from a small congregation, had sent out around twenty souls to serve in overseas mission work. So the challenge was ever before us from the pulpit: "what are you still doing sitting here - be up & moving out to serve!"

So, this then became a matter for much prayer. I was already engaged in open-air ministry in the city centre (styled around the work of Open Air Campaigners), doing tract distribution in my neighbourhood, & giving Bible studies. But in all this, the Lord had been quiet about overseas service. It was only after the Lord took home my Dad in 1985, that the word came to me very clearly in prayer at the end of 1987 about serving overseas & to do so with a particular Mission. I knew this was of the Lord, as he undertook for me in every way to achieve His Plan. He even sold my home for me in a few days, without me even mentioning it to anyone that I wanted to put it on the market!

Why I relate all this to you, is that the Lord knows your heart & your desire to serve Him. His child can do no better than to aspire to such a high calling: service to the King of kings. What are the ways you employ now to serve the Lord? Remember, often when those already labouring for Him are those whom He calls specifically. Where lies your interests? For some, the great ministry of prayer is their passion - others to be found serving even to the point of laying down their lives for the Gospel. I read that you sense that this could be a 'global' ministry for you. Keep on praying about the matter, speak to overseas Missions about their work & opportunities to serve. Though age may be against you, your spirit & willingness is very apparent. Have your heart & mind constantly trained on this path - God will direct you for sure.

Praise God Brethren,

Yes, I looked into the story of Moses to see how God called him to serve (he was simply living his normal life). I have been looking for a door to serve God and I don't know how to start. In 2005 God told me in a dream that IHe will cleanse, purify and uplift me and I will be His servant globally. He confirmed the dream in real life ( I asked Him to tell me in simple language if it was Him who spoke to me in a dream, and part of what I saw in that dream happened next day morning after asking. In that dream after God spoke, I saw smoke in a neighbours house and when I turned inside to rescue my belongings the smoke cleared. So, it happened in real life, I was called early morning a neighbours house burning (I saw that heavy smoke), I sent a sister I was staying with to go help while I went back in the house to turn off power. But 2 minutes she came back saying they managed to put down the fire. So I knew, It was Him who spoke to me.

Then a few years ago Jesus stood in the sky (in another dream that was like real), threw something like a small pen/cross glittering to me and when it entered me it was that, He has sent me to serve Him globally.

My question is, when will that be? How will I start as I am still looking for that door. I am now 53.

Be blessed.

To believe that the Rapture is false, would mean disregarding or reinterpreting a lot of Scripture that points to such an event. And those Scriptures don't fit nicely into a belief that Jesus is coming to rule in Jerusalem without something occurring first to both the living & dead believers. The differing viewpoints that arise as to when the Rapture occurs in connection with the Great Tribulation, causes the variation of interpretations of the Scriptures.

Your Father's teaching is what we would refer to as a belief in a 'mid-Tribulation Rapture'. That is, that the Great Tribulation begins at the revelation of Anti-Christ & Christians suffer under his regime, but will be removed mid-way before God pours out His Anger upon the whole world.

Others also believe that the Great Tribulation begins at the advent of the Anti-Christ & so we will either see him briefly, or not at all, before being taken away (pre-Tribulation Rapture). And then, of course, still others hold to the fact that we all (saved & unsaved) go right through the whole Tribulation period of 7 years: (Post-Tribulation Rapture).

For this, we must appeal to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4. "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." (vv2,3).

The Thessalonian Christians were fearful that the Great Tribulation was already upon them & they missed out on being raptured. So Paul comforted them by saying the 'Day of Christ (Lord)' would not come until there was first a 'falling away' from the Church & the revelation of the Anti-Christ. This should lead us to believe that Christians might be around to see Anti-Christ appear on the scene but will be raptured some time afterwards. We're not told when, whether there will a time where we will need to decide to take the Mark or not, or even suffer for it. That day & time is known only to the Lord, but we must be ready, waiting & watching. So, I would be too dogmatic to suggest that your Dad is wrong in holding to a mid-trib position, though I would tend to hold to a pre-trib position, based on my understanding of Scripture & removal of the Holy Spirit (v 7) & the Church and that God is always seen to remove His own before His Judgement falls on the unbeliever.

The rapture is false altogether.Christ is returning to Earth to set up his eternal kingdom.it is written in the Psalms that God has chosen Mount Zion on his favorite place where he will dwell forever.

You mean 3 1/2 years of tribulations, meaning raptured in the middle of 70th week, i dont think you will find that.

I have a question. My father was a minister and always taught us that we would go through 3 1/2 years of the rapture then be raptured into Heaven. I have searched the Bible for this but cannot find it anywhere. Was that teaching false or did I misunderstand the teaching?

Revelation 19:13, clearly names Jesus as the Word of God.

The blood of Christ one of the most important doctrinal teachings found in the Word of God. It is through the shedding of Christ's blood that WE can:

Learn of God's and Christ's great love for us

Be declared innocent from our many heinous sins

Be delivered from the eternal wrath of Almighty God

Be brought into communion with a Holy God.

Be saved from eternal death and granted eternal life.



Romans 5:8-10 - "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Much more then, being now justified by his BLOOD, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."

No wonder His shed blood holds a core position of importance in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, it is the only hope for a person's salvation, receipt of other spiritual blessings and eternal security with Him.

Sadly, many today will minimize the importance of the death and shed blood of Christ. It has been done throughout NT times and will continue to be done until Christ comes again. Anytime that we minimize what Christ has done for us (whether by word or action) after we have mentally received the truth about its importance, it is a sign of a lost condition and increased responsibility at the final judgment.

Revelations 19:13

Whose blood is sprinkled on the vesture; Is it the blood of the defeated enemy, or Christ's blood as atonement for our sins? I have Zondervan KJV Study Bible. The footnotes indicated that it could have been either. That note only led to confusion on my part.

Thanks, Roy

KJV. Got a lot of thee's n thou's' in it but I think most people know what they mean.

Yes, me too.

Mathew 11:12

I believe it's Jesus, that suffers the violence

John 1

Luke 17:21-25

Luke 22:52-53, Luke 22:63-65, Luke 23:33

1 Samuel 8:6 - 22

Who judged Isarael after Samuel

What does Jesus mean when he says that the Kingdom suffers violence

Praise God, i would like to learn more about praying and fasting

Thank you for the response.

It must hurt God's heart to give life and have it taken away so young as babies in there mother's womb. I do believe that sin becomes sin when we know it is sin and still do it, so if God gave a few commandments to show we are sinners but let us choose what we will do he also knows when we realise it to be sin and judges us wisely. The thing is we are all short when it comes to the choices in life but he gave away out and his name is Jesus. We choose life are death and once saved we must as children learn the ways of our father.

I will look at it, thanks for the info.

My eyes are not too good either and I am in need of a larger print Bible. It is mostly for this reason that I have used this website a lot the past several years so that I can enlarge the words. Have you ever heard of the Gospel Publisher Bookstore in Moundridge, KS? Likely they have a lot of choices on Bibles and etc...

The Word also says the letter kills but the Spirit is life.

Spiritual things are spiritually understood.

The word also says there is neither male or female in Christ.

Als neither Jew nor Greek but one new man.

And when we are in the spirit we are the voice of God.

If a woman is born again of the spit of God the Word says we all have the power to become The sons of God.

When one is moving in the Holy Spirit the are moving in the true Man Christ.

Weather male or female.

If a man is not moving in the anointing of Christ he is in the flesh which is denial in relationship to the Man Christ.

The spiritual man lays down his life for his wife asChrist for the Church (the Body of Christ made up of all believers male and female.

Both equal in Christ.

Natural man would have woman be subject to him where The spiritual man in Christ as God would see her as the object of his love and laid down his life for Her (his bride the church)

All members of Christ's body the church are female to God.

And this applies to all members of the Body of Christ men and women.

In Geniuses it show man starting as male and female but one.

The world says the 5 fold ministry in Ephesians is given that we may all grow up into one new Man in Christ.

A true Spiritual Man is a man when he is moving in the Spirit of Christ. Then he has authority love and covering.

Otherwise he is female in relationship to Christ and wise to move under a covering.

God loves his people and desire us to love him and one another.

Jesus said when the Holy Spirit comes upon you He will lead you into all truth. Jesus is truth and truths will always be on with him who is the living word and dwells in his people.

We are free to know the truth and to hear his voice. For he became the way the truth and the life we live.

I have not shared like this before so I ask that you have grace with my grammar.

Just ask God to show the truth and he will. Seek and we shall find.

God Bless & Spirit lead.

G

Look at this list! 359 OT prophesies fulfilled by Jesus. Save it to 'my favorites' on your google desktop.

NewtestamentChristians dot com

I gotta go to officemart and get this one printed out.

It will be helpful as soon as I locate the new Bible I want to use. It's so hard because a lot of them are geared for beauty rather than for study. What version do you use?

I have to get large print :/ so I can see.

Look at that list I found: OT prophesies of Jesus. So cool.

Matthew chapter 5

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.