Matthew Chapter 24 Discussion Page 31

"Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another." What must they have wrong, that with all this time for spiritual growth and preparation, they should only prove bereft of grace to stand in the day of adversity?

Lu2677; Please read what I wrote one more time. What I said was that since none of us can really express with words all that the Lord has caused ourselves to know, so we shouldn't be so ready to scrutinize another, as we definitely don't know all the Lord has shown them. This has to do with the secret things that belong to God and the areas in which we aught not to judge each other. Is that wrong?

A disciple, Is it hypocritical to give verse to someone who speaks against His word, for correction? We are called to consent to wholesome words.Scripture is truth.It is possible to "know".Matt.12:34"from the heart the mouth speaks."We know what is in their heart by what comes out of their mouth.Jer.11:36,Pro.6:2, Exodus 4:13-16,V.15"put words in his mouth', Isaiah 59:21,examples if interested.

V. 35 "But my words will not pass away."

Heaven and earth shall pass away. V.35, so Christ, in his very own words, says.

To add to my previous comment, I know that many of us are going through a really tough time right now, but the reason is clear. You cannot pour anything into a cup that is already full.
The true stones that constitute the Church will be full of the Holy Spirit. This is the only building which the Master will inhabit. Brothers and Sisters, let us become empty, so He can fill us...with LOVE.

"There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down." Jesus was warning us that the spiritual house built out of the living stones (Peter) would have to be dismantled because it is not fit for purpose. Men have built their vision of the Church over the years. But fear not, "I will build My Church." Emphasis on "I".

Yee doe err, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God. (A true Believer has all knowledge of God he gave only to his people the Israelites for he is written throughout the whole bible stating who his chosen people are,

Its difficult to say what others know or don't know; even when we ourselves can never really express with words what the Lord has given us to know in our own hearts, how can we judge what we cannot see in others' hearts? When we have a thing being revealed to us, we still are just beginning to see a little, and ought not to say how much others aren't getting it! We don't want to be hypocrites!

This chapter is full of misconceptions because many people fail to notice that Jesus is answering two questions. He said the temple and city would be destroyed... The disciples are in awe, when?! They ask. And with a second question mark they ask what will signal us of your return and the end of this age? They recognize that these are two separate events and the end is just after Christ's return.

I just now NOTICED Matt. 1:1 - "And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple; ... "; this was the last time He was in the temple. The word 'departed' says to me He could do no more for His unbelieving people. He had the disciples and those many they had converted, but so many He could not reach. This was the beginning of His 'time' - for our salvation. It's sad; makes me want to weep.

Please don't mistake;Eph.2:8 By grace ye are save through faith, gift from God. But the angels did "seal" them, nonetheless;Rev.7:2-3

Irene 123 Re;Rev.7:14,you said we cannot know how the saints are saved during the great tribulation.If you read Rev.7:2and 3 it says the angels sealed them, and that saved them.They were the 12 tribes. It would help you if you would read the whole chapter, or at least read the verse in context.

29-31 The Lord says plainly, that He will call to the heavens and to the earth to gather His Saints together unto Him, AT HIS COMING AND HIS KINGDOM, in power and great glory; sending forth His angels to remove from out of His Kingdom all things that cause to sin and them that work iniquity. We who live and remain up to that GREAT DAY, must be good and faithful servants and witnesses to the end!

Matt. 24:1-14, speaks of what is going on now, and has been going on for a lo-ong time. This is 'sporadic' and mild tribulation - compared to the all at once world-wide tribulation when the anti-Christ will rule. Because of Rev. 7:14 we know there will be GREAT trib. saints. How - we aren't to know at this time; that's God's business. BUT - they won't be saints that are left behind at the Rapture.

You have to read the Bible IN CONTEXT - and with common sense. You have to 'agree' with God's word. The word 'taken', and God's word (not man's imagination) means - raptured.

Vs.40,41 both state one taken, other left. In English language (even then), taken also means fooled,(off to Antichrist, Trump 6). Left, (or left standing, Trump 7) wearing Gospel armor, v 13 says he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

And don't forget Matt. 28:19, where Jesus, Himself, states in the name of the Father, in the name of the Son, in the name of the Holy Ghost. We must not let those, trying to fit the scriptures into their theology, steal our joy in the Lord. Jesus, himself, said Take heed that no man deceives you. Rejoice in your salvation, the joy of freedom from sin. Romans 6. A great time to be Christian!!!

The Spirit (Holy Ghost) of Jesus (God) is in one IF - they have followed Acts2:38. They are - ONE, not separate. It's His spirit in us that He will 'quicken' at the Rapture; He will draw His saints to Him just as an electro magnet, when turned on, draws. His Spirit will draw those with His Spirit to His Spirit.

difference Rev. 6 is speaking of coming of antichrist. 24:29 Matthew speaking of the return of Christ after that first tribulation. The apperance is the same but the outcome is the difference. Rev. 6 when 6th seal is opened Sun blackens but then there is a false peace and a false messiah world loves who brings spiritual death to steal souls. In Matt. 24:29 the true Christ shows burning hailstones.

When we compare all four Evangelists' accounts of all that the Lord Jesus spoke of, concerning the completion of the age, and His coming, we can see not only events around the immediate end, but also the whole course of the world during this last time. Matthew, Mark, and Luke give us "the impression" of a rather shorter time frame; while in John is specifically God's purpose with us in this age.

Here is the conclusion of what Jesus entreats: be ready at all times. Whether it be 3000 light years away or even today, we should be like the wise virgins, ready for the Lord to come, our lamps (state of salvation) all trim, well-oiled and bright. By the day, the signs of the end-times as narrated by Jesus in this chapter are getting fulfilled. Are you ready my brother? Are you ready my sister?

The description the Lord gives here, about the kind of times leading up to His coming and the end of the age; are the same things searched out and spoken of by all the Prophets concerning the Day of the LORD. An interesting study on the root meaning of the number 666 has shown that it actually implies the removal of restraint, and of going over all bounds; which is where this world is rushing to.

Richard: You got the puzzle coming together. Revelation 6:8 power is given to:4Horsemen over 1/4 of the earth. Wars, starving, dying are in 1/4 of the earth. Those in Christ are imprisoned tortured, beheaded (getting worse)V:29,matches the 6th seal.
If His people in(USA)would preach Salvation everywhere they too will be persecuted: John15:20/ Not Servin no persecution:judgment! Luke12:9/
ETERNITY

The body of christ is just that a body. Jesus is within that body. The two are seperate, but yet one.

Richard - God Bless you; He used you to show me something I had never 'noticed' before; Matt. 24:31 - " ... from the 4 winds, and from one end of heaven to the other".

I've been searching the answer of the coming of the lord 1Thess:$,15-17. I wanted to really know( after a lot of searching) so far I think that I understand. Luke:21,20-33. Matt: 24,14-15,21,29 immediately after the tribulation ,30, and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven -----coming in the clouds---31 . Thess:4-16,17. Cant be B/4 the trib,because , Luke 21,25 sign of,27

I behold His hands and His feet, even His!

Bruce - God bless you. I am thru discussing the TRIB. It's a 'fruitless' discussion; everyone to their own belief.

Khethiwe:Who is a liar but he that denieth Jesus is the Christ:1John2:22