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So what does this verse mean? I understand this to mean that as Jesus, the Son of God in the flesh, He was not privy to all that the Father knew or would reveal to Him. I know He is the Word of God made flesh, but whether He or the Father had set limitations because of His Humanity is not revealed to us. In Lk 22:41,42, we read of Jesus & His disciples on the Mt. of Olives & Jesus prayed to the Father in His final hours & in agony, "Father, if Thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless, not My Will, but Thine be done". As a man, he knew the horror of suffering & death that lay before Him & so His Cry to the Father to take away this cup of suffering from Him, but as the Son of God, He knew that God's Will had to be performed & so He willingly went to the Cross on our behalf. This verse shows us the agony Jesus endured as both Man & God & His continual resorting to His Father even when He knew the prophecies about Him & that His work of Salvation would finally enable mankind to get right with God.
First, can a person be a believer and not a disciple?
I would say yes. A person can believe in Christ, go to church, believe the bible to be true, believe that Jesus died for them, but not have any desire to study God's word, or be led by His Spirit in order that they might grow in Christ. That person believes, but is not a disciple.
Your second question, can a person be a disciple and not a believer?
Again, if I put Christ into the equation, I would say no. A person who is following Christ, submitting to the persuasion of His Spirit taking His word and ministering it to their heart and mind, that person is not only a disciple, but a true believer.
I have one for you. Can a person who says they believe in God also be an atheist?
The best church that I went to as a baby Christian was a storefront church. I had deliverance issues and those were prayed for respectfully so as not to scare me. I thought "spirits" were demonic and it was a while before I received the Holy Spirit; which started a lifetime of deep love and respect.
I think you should commit your actions to Jesus to set right. Don't be Christians that go to law with each other in front of unbelievers. Trust in the Lord...He will set your path straight.
The fields are white unto the harvest. Pray faithfully to the Lord of the Harvest. Bring the newborns to your church.
Unless they are in the bloodline of Jesus:
The Son of Man.
These are the character traits of Jesus:
Compassionate, servant, loving, forgiving,
Committed, prayerful, gentleness, patience, self-control, humble, creativity, efficiency, respect, deference, tolerant, integrity, confidence, obedience, meekness, virtue, honesty, consistency, merciful; just to name a few.
We're supposed to be learning about these traits and live some.
You have completely covered your feelings about women preachers/pastors.
Did you know if God can't get anyone to carry a message, that He'll use a donkey?
We're all going to be held accountable at the Bema seat of Jesus for every idle word we have spoken out of our mouth.
Angels record in a Book everything we say about Jesus
Let us lift up Jesus. Amen.
Personal experience...I was in a Christian denomination, whose leaders went VERY liberal, so much so it caused our pastor and others to question their leadership. As a result, over 20 congregations in our country decided to break away from that leadership.Result..?Their liberal leadership sued my congregation,took us to court, and as a result we lost everything...our church building( we were forbidden to use our church building for services, we lost finances ie large donations that were given in trust from deceased members, we were without a place to worship for several years.
We met in a funeral home chapel for some time, TIL we shared another denominations building where we meet now.)
Does that liberal leadership claim Jesus as Messiah?yes one of their pastors claimed there was myth in the Bible, and that congregants should not be reading their bibles!Decide..were they deceiving their congregations? Were they leading them astray? We were not RC
can a person be a disciple and not a believer
However, if I've misunderstood you & my apologies, then I can't see what your other point is. Clarification please? And the 'two possibilities': no answer, I give up.
So what, I said
But also the Great Lakes of Canada/US are all above seasonal averages...
That's a lot of water....and the snow melt in Canada is not yet at its peak!
Re Jesus' return...." As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be prior to Jesus' return
Do you draw the same conclusion I'm drawing?
IN HIM, THE BEST PLACE TO BE, THE " Secret Place" OF PS91?
Neil, in BC CANADA
"For many will come in my name saying they are Christ; and will deceive many" is the current interpretation
but the above is NOTwhat Jesus said!
"Many will come in my name saying I ( Jesus.....my insert ) am Christ, and will deceive many"
Are there any denominational leaders who claim Jesus is the Messiah, and who deceive many of their followers by their theology ?
I can name two possibilities ( my opinion)
What say you?
Neil, in British Columbia, Canada
that your flight be not in the winter, neither
on the Sabbath day. That is something people
should be focusing on this verse is so correct
On what we are facing now.