Luke Chapter 22 Discussion Page 4

40And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation.

41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,

42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground

The Price!

This is the most part that most people will always not understand even if their pasters define it to them. God help us.

This is the hardest part in knowing who God is. Help me Lord.

This is a two fold message I believe. Jesus knew that the Gospel would become available one day, this is the real sword he was speaking of. Many of his parables have a prophetic message as well.

there is another message along with the one just posted.
as Jesus ordered to take up the fragments that filled the twelve baskets; the baskets was of for each apostle's life with Him to share with us. as each apostle had a different version but all truth that leads us to Christ and everlasting life.

Then (2000+ years ago) as now, only free men had/have the right to defend themselves (the right to self-defense).

Thank you for Bible on line. It is so very helpful.
Jesus did not tell us to give up our weapons. He said, we would need them to protect ourselves.

fits perfectly especially the red print

So lovely and encouraging, thanks may God bless you keep it up

This verse to me suggest that we mast remember Jesus Our Lord each and every minus of our life. that bread that gave His disaples is the bread of life and remember when Jesus tought hw to pray,He said "God give us our daily bread", which daily bread Jesus Himself. He took bread and gave thanks is the lesson as human being mast always give thanks to Heavenly Father in every thing that is good and relative to our spiritual life,as Jesus did. When He told them that was His body He tried to emphasis that every time you eat bread remember me.

Jesus' comment about purchasing swords was to his disciples and about fulfilling the prophecies concerning Him, not about "bearing arms". Jesus never bore or bought arms, and the disciple who cut of the soldier's ear was rebuked and the ear was restored by Jesus. Our weapons are not CARNAL.

@Larry Johnson,
May the lord Jesus give you knowledge, wisdom and understanding. That when you read these parables, it will be with great desire to build a relationship with Christ. It is not the sword in which we battle against human flesh. But with the sword of the spirit within this spiritual warfare we are in against the principalities.

@Larry Johnson,
About sword control, we as believers need to read our bibles more and fill ourselves with the word. Remember Jesus’ parable about the seed where some seed fell among thorns and the care of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word and one becometh unfruitful. Sword control is not mentioned in the bible and one's concern with such matters is Carnal and the word of God is Spirit and Life. Paul said save yourselves from this untoward generation.

@Morris,
On verse 50:
1. The servant of the high priest that had his ear cut off and healed by Jesus was named Malchus ( John 18:10);
2. Astro-theology is the from the prince and power of the air and is the same prince that is behind sorcery, divination, witchcraft, spiritualist, mediums, mentalist, psychics, strange fires, and horror scopes, and whatever else Hollywood can put in the media to brainwash the bible ignorant people.

I would wager that the Romans had "sword control" in Jesus' day, and yet here is our Lord telling his followers to acquire illegal weapons! I Believe he would say the same thing to us today except He would say firearm instead of sword.

The Lord knows your heart and knows all things seen and unseen; he knows who is real and those who say "oh how I love Jesus" and when time comes to bear your own cross, they run with Satan. Because they think its easier.

v.50: Whose ear was cut off which Jesus replaced?

In this chapter we see the extreme issues of life: the utter depravity of man, the weakness of the flesh and the marvelous love of God. Judas betrays Jesus (the depravity of man), Peter denies Him (the weakness of the flesh) and our Savior reveals God's love for us in expressing His desire for intimate fellowship (the Passover supper)with those who have embraced him in faith. His readiness to forgive, restore and encourage those who through sin have denied Him underscores that love of God for man and gives us a glimpse of the heart and character of God. How comforting it is to know that boundless love, that forgiveness, that good will toward man as seen here in God's dear Son. It is difficult or rather impossible to fully comprehend the depth, the height, the breadth of that love. We can only "see through a glass darkly" and find comfort, peace and joy in what is here and throughout God's Word revealed about that love.

I bet Jesus wanted to teach us how to be watchful and pray. Being watchful, he meant that we should at all times be prepared of his coming by practicing holiness, living righteously, being high in integrity, walking in godliness and shunning evil. These are the characteristics of a true believer in Christ and in turn the Holy Spirit produces his fruits in them. When Christ appears in his second coming, he will look for the fruit of the Holy Spirit in his church and all believers as a qualification of their being saved. On prayer, he showed us the significance of communing in which we are taught that without prayer we can never be victorious in our walk with God. Be Blessed

That is only astro_theology. The man caring the water is Aquarius because we are now out of the house Pisces which was a fish and we know that was the early sign of Christianity. He is asking you now to go into a different house.

All of our Lord's word means so much to me....It has for some time. I read the word each day and feel empty without it. Ther are reason's that reason doesn't know. I guess one has to have Faith. Love you Jesus

I Believe the sword is the word of God.That the
only conceal weapon Christian have.
ISA:54:17

After Jesus had talked to his Father, and come back to his disciples found them sleeping and said
to them why sleep ye? Rise up and PRAY least ye enter into temptation, says it all for me (PRAY and keep yourself from temptation. LUKE 22:46

Luke 22:36 This verse mean that we should have the word of God in our hearts it doesn't matter what will cost us to have it.

The Cup,the church,contains the life in Christ.
The content of this life is Christ's blood
The blood of Christ is life, forgiveness and the Gospel to be preached,
So this verse says all to be said about the Christian life.

It is a warning for us to always be watchful. And to arm ourselves for the glory of God in troubled times.

This is a tough verse. I was at a firearms training and a fellow student cited this verse as Jesus stating it is OK to carry a concealed weapon. I disagreed with him. A short sword of the time was not a concealable weapon. And I don't believe that was what Jesus was saying at all.