John Chapter 14 Discussion Page 2



 
  • GiGi - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Be encouraged dear Jeremiah. Jesse has spoken well here to you.

    You belong to Jesus. All of your sins are forgiven. It is not the Holy Spirit bringing this sin to your remembrance and causing you to suffer doubt and anguish. It is Satan, the accuser of the brethren speaking through your sinful nature trying to rob you of your assurance of salvation in Christ. So, tell yourself that you are forgiven of this sin every time you remember it and give praise to God for the sacrifice of Jesus that makes it possible for this and any sin to not be counted against you any longer.

    Jeremiah, most of us have sins from our past that come back to accuse us at times. But, we know we have eternal life and salvation in Christ in whom we have placed our trust and faith, and so, can forgive ourselves as God has forgiven us and send these accusations packing.

    I am so glad that God has saved you and that you are among His sons and daughters destined for glory with Jesus. Our treasure is kept for us in heaven and awaits us to receive with the redemption of our bodies. We have the Holy Spirit as our " guarantee" or "down-payment" of this life. We taste it in this life, but will have it in fullness in the resurrection. Praise God!
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Jeremiah,

    The bible tells us that all manner of sin will be forgiven except for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. The term blasphemy is a term that expresses rejection. It is when a person goes through life rejecting the testimony of God's Spirit when He comes and convicts you of your sin and your need of a Savior. That's what it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. It means to reject Him. If a person dies in that condition of rejection, that sin will not be forgiven.

    My dear friend, if you have received Jesus Christ into your life and been born of His Spirit, you have not committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Please know that the Lord knows your heart. If what you are saying here is true, God knows. If you have called out to the Lord to save you, He has promised to do so. You just need to trust in that promise.

    And yes, Satan continues to attack believers. Once we are saved, he can't take that away from us. Satan knows he has lost a believer (Born Again) forever to Christ, so the only thing he can do is keep our minds distracted in order to keep us from growing in Christ. If you're saved, you will never lose that. In order for Satan to take you away from Christ, he would have to defeat Christ in you, and that will never happen.

    Stay in God's word and trust in His promises. He promises to save all who call out to Him for salvation. He promises to keep you saved by His power alone. Don't let Satan get in the way of your relationship with Jesus Christ!
  • Tina M - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Hi Jeremiah,

    From my understanding of the Word of God, the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, is rejecting the Gospel of Jesus Christ that He convicts you of. Even Peter cursed concerning even knowing Jesus during his denial of Him and he was clearly forgiven.

    Here are some verses that hopefully will comfort you and dispel your doubts: Eph 1:13 says you are "sealed by the Holy Ghost" and further in Eph. 4:30 you are "sealed unto the day of redemption". Once you are sealed by Him, you cannot be unsealed. You are His purchased possession. We can, through our sin, grieve the Holy Spirit, but we are still sealed.

    Lastly, I Pet. 1:5 says we are "kept by the power of God". Nothing is more powerful than God Himself.

    You need to do what Phil. 3:13 says and forget those things that are behind, and reach forth to those things that are before you.

    Continue to read the Word of God and obey it and don't let your past, forgiven sins be a burden to your new walk in Christ.
  • Jeremiah on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Years ago I cursed at God and said, "GD you God",while angry about a life circumstance.

    Mark 3 talks about blaspheming the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit as being an unpardonable/unforgivable sin. I wanted to make sure I had not committed the unpardonable/unforgivable sin.

    I have told Jesus thank you for dying on the cross, I trust your blood payment for my sin as it is pleasing to God, please save me from my sin of curing God. Is what I have done considered calling on the name of the Lord Romans 10:13?

    I confessed my sin and 1 John 1:9 says he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin. Does this also include cursing God? I am sincerely sorry I cursed at God.

    Sometimes this sin causes me great anxiety as do sinful thoughts. I want to know my name is written in the book of life and that I am headed to heaven to see Jesus when I die.

    I know that I am saved by Christ's blood, his payment on the cross, not by works. Eph 2:8-9.

    Sometimes I have trouble believing that Jesus will save me, but I cried out to him. Satan probably is lying to me daily to create fear.

    Thank you for taking time to respond. I want to be saved and do better at pleasing God/obeying his commandments both new and old testament commandments.

    Jeremiah
  • Marke - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    We find the Lord in Luke 6 makes it clear that God is not interested in human claims of obedience to the letter of the law so much as He is interested in humans demonstrating a heart to love God and fellow sinners in fulfillment of the spirit of the law.
  • Joseph woodfork on John 14 - 4 years ago
    chapter 6 st luke explained
  • Grae - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    I'm not going to go around in circles with u or anyone on this sight . I was a bit snippy with u earlier and I was wrong to be so , i apologise for that and wish u well and may God continue to bless u .
  • Grae - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    So he didn't say : my God why hast thou forsaken me ? That's what quoting is .
  • Ron - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Actually Jesus was fulfilling prophecy , not quoting psalm 22 .

    Good on finding psalm 22 it applies.
  • Free - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Dear "Bob", The truth is that there are three witnesses in Heaven.

    It is the Spirit, the Water and the Blood. Or so: The Father, the Word and the Spirit are equal with Jesus Christ.

    1 John 5:6-11 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

    9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

    10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

    11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Amen

    Be blessed in His Holy Name Jesus, love u in Christ.
  • Grae - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    With affection and respect . When Jesus said those words he was quoting Psalm 22 . If you haven't read it please do and you will see that it depicts his crucifixion . I think he was quoting this Psalm to the Jews in order to try to make them see exactly who he is and that all this was long ago foretold about him . They should and probably did know that he was referencing this Psalm and maybe it would help them to recognise him and they would repent and be converted . That's what I think .
  • Chris - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    That's true Bob. In His Humanity, Jesus was 'separate' from His Father: the Word of God made flesh ( John 1:14). In the flesh, Jesus faced all the temptations, pain & heartaches that we feel, even as you shared, He felt loneliness by the Father's aloofness at that important time - that is why it's written concerning His Humanity, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted" ( Hebrews 2:18). Jesus was perfect Man, doing His Father's Will & then to return to Heaven from whence He came. Even as He prayed, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." This little verse alone tells us a lot about Who this Jesus is before He came to give Himself for us.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    I think a mistake would be assuming Jesus's temporary form as a human being was somehow His "only" form, because John 1:1 already said Jesus was God from the beginning. So, yes, as a man, Jesus had intentional limited power as a man. Fully God and man, but choosing to have the constraints and full experience of a man. Obviously His deity-aspect was revealed through miracles, wisdom, clairvoyance of future, and supernatural ability to know people's thoughts and heart, but He prayed to His father like any other man. He could have called 10,000 angels but didn't. Matthew 26:53. So He operated mostly within human constraints on purpose, including experiencing a full human death. God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Hi Bob.

    Here's what's important.

    Galatians 5:19-26. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

    Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, "VARIANCE," emulations, wrath, "STRIFE," seditions, heresies,

    Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

    And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

    Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

    God bless.
  • Bob - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Sorta like when Jesus said my God my God why have you forsaken me? No mistake can be made here.
  • Bob on John 14 - 4 years ago
    John 14.1

    A no brainer that Jesus says God and he are two separate persons
  • Gigi - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Hi Chanda

    In answer to your questions:

    The Bible has 66 books without the Apocrypha;

    Which is 14 books. If your Bible has the Apocrypha it has 80. 66+14=80

    Jesus was 33 or so when He died

    The account of Jesus speaking with Nicodemus is in John 3:1-21
  • Chandra Sayles on John 14 - 4 years ago
    How many books are in the bible?

    How old was Jesus when he died on the cross?

    What did Nicademus say to Jesus? What were the question he ask Jesus?
  • Brenda McWilliams on John 14 - 4 years ago
    I'm so glad to be saved by our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazereth!!!
  • Mike samuel on John 14 - 4 years ago
    I believe that john 14:3 refers to the rapture of the churches of king yahshua hamashiach. my reasons are simple:

    1. there are two comings of the lord yahshua after his ascension.

    2. they are the 2.1 the rapture of his churches, and 2.2 the second coming.

    3. at the second coming, he will return to earth as king yahshua at exactly the same place that he ascended to heaven.

    4. at the second coming, he will be coming down from heaven to earth together with all of those who were rapture earlier.

    therefore, when yahshua said that...he will come again to recieve us to himself...this cannot be the second coming but the rapture of the churches of yahshua hamashiach. if we were to come down to earth with him, how can he be recieving us??

    sceptics and even christians have asked the question: "how can the rapture be true when jesus himself did not say anything about the rapture??"

    i am not a theologian but i do believe that the the lord yahshua/yeshua/jesus/yesus/iesous was referring to the rapture of his churches in john 14:3!

    halleluyah..... maranatha.

    mike samuel

    malaysia

    27.12.ad2021
  • Ron on John 14:6 - 4 years ago
    everyone mentions john 3:16,don't get me wrong that verse is awesome but talk about GPS or maps and Jesus provides that and more by letting us know our only way home is there any other way indeed there's not Praise to you Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Mishael,

    Sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for the invite!
  • English Sacha - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Count me in please .
  • Mishaet - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    I'm hoping for a cabin with a small dock, row boat, tackle, lots of deck chairs and a barn full of animals.

    You're all invited over for horseshoes.
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Dee,

    I would like to echo what Brother Chris has shared. As he has shared, that word mansion is the Greek word that means dwelling place. Some believe that we will each get our own mansion in heaven someday, but unfortunately the word MONE in Greek never refers to "mansions" as we know a mansion to be. They are dwelling places.

    But here is something that is interesting. The word MONE is only found in two places in John Chapter 14. Verse 2 and verse 23 are the only two places that the word is found. In verse 23, it is sort of like a bookend. Jesus starts out be saying, "In my Father's house are many dwelling places."

    Now in verse 23, Jesus answered and said if a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our (abode/MONE) with him. Again, same word, MONE. So where's the dwelling place? It's right here. It's me, you, and every other believer who has Christ dwelling in them. We are the dwelling places. Jesus says we will come and make our abode with him.

    Now in verse 2, it makes it sound like Jesus is doing that in heaven. But He has to go in order to come back. He can't send the Holy Spirit until He leaves. He's getting ready to prepare a place for us. But right now, we are the many mansions, or many dwelling places spoken of in John 14:2.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Dee. In the original Greek, the word "mansions" is written as 'Mone'. And this can be translated as 'abode or dwelling places'; some even translate it as 'rooms'. The translators that used the word 'mansions', which is generally considered a 'very large stately building', I think intended to convey the meaning that there are many dwelling places within a large structure.
  • Dee on John 14 - 4 years ago
    What does in my fathers house are mansion?
  • D W L on John 14 - 4 years ago
    John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for (my Father is greater than I).

    Matthew 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless (not as I will, but as thou wilt).

    John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but (the will of the Father which hath sent me).
  • S Spencer - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    Hi Sister Dianne.

    Yes, I know you didn't say greater in ability,

    but I just wanted to touch on that while this verse is presented because there's some out there that use that verse in that way.

    God bless.
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 14 - 4 years ago
    S Spencer I will be clearer from now on never mean't greater in ability that's impossible. First mistake I ever made in my life. NOT!


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