Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 40

John Chapter 1

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. [the Baptist]

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He [John the Baptist] was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 [Jesus] That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him [Jesus] and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own [humankind], and his own received him not.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory AS OF the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Holy Spirit (upon consent by Mary Mother of Jesus) overshadowed her. (remember that H.S, is a spirit; no body).

The spark of Life within her began to grow. Jesus came into the world. Re-read verse 14 again.

COMMENT: the Holy Spirit who is co-equal to The Father and the Son; who co-created this world we live on: is the One who overshadowed the conception.

In Genesis 1:2 we see the Holy Spirit: moved upon the face of the waters. In Psalm 33:6 and Job 26:13 we see the Holy Spirits work.

Rob, you need to slow down and read in silence. If your Bible does not have 'center of each page reference columns'; get one. Put that in your search criteria if shopping online. Go to the other references on A scripture & see the added information/meaning. It'll blow your socks off sometimes.

MOST IMPORTANT: ask the Holy Spirit to Teach you the truths of what you read. Every time you study. That's how I dig up the things that I do.

M

So when Jesus came down from heaven , could some one explain what did they do with his body ?

Why not just come down with it ?

So know Jesus has 2 bodies ?

I'd like an explanation never heard one , thanks !

Can't find what you are saying here in these verses .

Do you have some much better ones ?

Acts 17

Is Speaking if God the father that alone is Head over all .

Colossians ch 2

God who is the God head over all , is fully within Jesus as a man . And we are in Christ .

So God is head over Christ in the flesh , and Christ in the flesh is head over his body those who are in him .

Or you are saying Jesus is GOD ?

Romans 1.20

Has nothing to do with a trinity .

God is head over all .

Hi M

Thanks for commenting. Totally agree with the facts you've provided.

Let's get the conversation started with our secular world - but through meekness and humility

It is not the hard facts that will win Souls for Christ, but His Spirit and Truth administered through kindness.

Blessings

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

The Godhead speaking to each other, in Scripture:

Genesis 1:26, Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7, Book of John 10:30

Acts 17:27-30

The Godhead represents The Father, The Son of God, the Holy Spirit.

Comment: many people argue on this and this is a case of: Let God be true and every man a liar. Don't twist scriptures to validate your theories.

Jesus left heaven to come to earth and His name was the Son of man: fully God and fully human. He set aside his power to begin life as a baby, child and at age 30 he began his mission: to teach, make disciples, heal the sick, cleanse the leper's, cast out demons, doing good.

He was put on trial for blasphemy: saying he and His Father are ONE. He was judged and ordered to be crucified. He even saved one of the thieves he was crucified next to. Buried 3 days and then He walked out of the tomb! Many people went on record having seen him walking around after resurrection. It's recorded in the Bible and human history books. His ascension back into heaven was eye witnessed. Later, Jesus knocked Paul off his horse, blinded him but other people there HEARD an audible voice speak to Paul. It was Jesus!

Flash back to Pentecost: the Holy Spirit of God appears in the Upper Room as a roaring Wind and everyone receives His Baptism! It spills out into the street and everyone is hearing their own languages spoken! Many people were saved that day. He is spirit, so he is invisible; but unmistakably present in our world. He reveals Jesus to common people every day.

Life is EXCITING! Why would anyone turn down so great a salvation? Copy this down & preach it to family and friends.

Stop procrastinating!

M.

I keep reading this over and over again...

So muck here to unpack and to rely on the Holy Spirit for Wisdom.

What detail happened between verse 1 and 2?

Sun and moon was not made until the 4th day? What was source of light of first three days?

God refers to Himself as OUR

V29... seeds bringing forth their kind. How does evolution address fruit species? Oranges vs apples vs watermelon

What do you all think?

I'm a Bible-believing Christian and don't know how you're drawing such a false assumption.

Because I'm a christian. I believe everything in the bible. Seems like you are trying to disprove it

Here God makes everything good and he blesses.God's word is so powerful it creates. God's spoken word was disobeyed. The Word became flesh to save us.

King James Bible

Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. You have to be born again and be a doer of the word to bless our offenders and love the law to not be offended.

Disobedience brought down the human race. Obedience brought man back to God and in the name of Jesus you can come to God. Being a doer of the word is powerful.

Satan comes to take our eyes off the word of God and go by our carnal eyes. We need to hunger and thirst for righteousness. Matthew 22:36-40

King James Version

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Love is powerful. God is love.

Genesis 1:2, 3: "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

In these verses, we already see the Triune God at work. 1. We have God the Creator & Sustainer of all things. 2. We also see His Spirit "moving upon the face of the waters": that part of the Godhead that went out to do a work (we are not told). 3. Then we have God speak for the creation of light: "And God said..". This is His Word that is part of Who God is. Thus we see God, as He has revealed Himself to us, as a Triune God, and if any part of that divinity was missing, He would cease to be God.

You are a trinity: a body, a soul & a spirit. If one part of your trinity was missing, you would either cease to be human, or maybe a sub-human.

God chose to send out His Word to His people Israel: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high" ( Hebrews 1:1-3).

Did you catch it? God sent out His Word to Israel, then sent out His Word to us through His Son (Who also shared in His Glory, in His Image & involved in the creative Work (also see Colossians 1:15-17)). This Word was made flesh for our sakes, He gave us God's Message & then laid down His Life for us. This is God's Word declared to you - if you choose to believe what you do, then you have to deny the Truth of His Word & make your appeal to some other source.

John 20:27-29: "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD AND MY GOD. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

Thomas should have been chastised severely for referring to Jesus as his Lord and his God. But He wasn't, rather Jesus accepted his declaration. We should go above & beyond the doubts that Thomas had over the Lord's deity & accept Jesus for Who He is: the Word of the Father made flesh to become the Son of the Father.

In Genesis when God said let there by light and there was light !

That's actually Jesus ?

Sounds really crazy to me , not a hint of Jesus a little thought required.

Yes Jesus was prophesied in the Old Testament and was Born of God as no other man ever and because He had sinless flesh and in complete obedience to the fathers will , not his own he was tried God manifested in the flesh . But He never said IAM God that's totally contrary to the Bible .

Adam was Made a living soul

Jesus is the son of man a Quickening spirit .

Never was anyone born by God and called his Son as Jesus was in Bethlehem.

I hope that helps .

God bless you and have a wonderful day!

God Bless you all my brothers and sisters! Have a wonderful day in the Lord! Thank our Father constantly! Stay humble.

You are all in my prayers. Jesus Christ is Lord! The way the truth and the life!

It's written "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.." in Genesis 1:26.

We can know there's 'us' when God created man, as God said 'Let us make man in our image.'

They are spiritual group affiliation belong to God ( Revelation 4). God creates the affiliation on earth like as it is in heaven.

So true, Mishael. Yet, I always, through a medium such as this where one only sees the person's words & considers them as if genuine & searching, then one ought to give as accurate a response as possible based on Scripture & the Spirit's moving. As well, I always think of those who don't write in, but in their search for answers or in a desperate state, they might be drawn to KJB Online seeking help. I ask myself: how would it be if they only saw one comment, & then accepting that to be true, since there were no further comments or challenges to consider?

Actually, I despise being argumentative, yet for the Truth's sake, there is a clear warrant for standing up for one's beliefs & on the other side of the coin, that I too might gain some insight or understanding in a matter that I was unclear about. I have enjoyed some great 'debates' over the time, & mostly I've learned what a diverse lot we are as Christians, in how we understand the Scriptures from personal study & what we accept as Truth as coming from the pulpit or from authors. And yet, in spite of our sometimes very divergent understanding of the Scriptures, the Lord still loves us so much & I'm sure longs for that time (as we too wait) when all these 'debatable' things will be clearly understood & the hidden things revealed. Yet certain Truths must be tenaciously held onto & defended. All your comments Mishael, are appreciated, especially matters concerning the spirit world, to which most of us are sadly ignorant or even pretend don't exist. As you know, most of our activity on Earth is greatly influenced by what is unseen.

If you understand who the Father of all is and that he is the one God and father of Jesus his only son then you will understand the Bible . Jesus coming from God is certainly God manifest in the flesh .

It's really that simple .

Many places in scriptures can be applied in many ways but false in the application this how cults form .

People that believe what you are selling are in error.

To try to convince people in error is impossible unless God through his Holy Spirit can reach them . It requires an honest effort to know the truth even if it's not popular .

I find many verses applied in error .

Just like the law of marriage it's really simple , but men have found ways to get what they want through miss applied verses .

Yes we are in dark days in the churches !

I left them long ago ! And have no regrets! I will pray for you Chris nothing personal these false teachings started with the Roman Catholic Church almost 400 yrs after the NT .

I'm with the apostles teachings , nothing more .

I doubt that if it was all translated into Greek or Hebrew, it would convince. The Pharisees knew all of the scriptures but they still did not believe and refused to believe Jesus was the Messiah they had preached about. It would've meant that there was One greater than themselves.

Their security of income would end. It would be like telling the Pope, you're fired: the true Messiah is here. People can pray to Jesus and be forgiven now.

God knew this would happen just as it is. If He wrote on the sky with His finger, they would denounce it; call it a lying wonder.

The evangelist in my spirit says that there are still many who Will believe Jesus is who scripture says He is. Over 100 scriptures were fulfilled on the event of Jesus's crucifixion. Those odds alone prove He is who scripture says He is.

There's an ocean of people who will believe. If people are stubborn resistant, it tells me that the Holy Spirit is not drawing those people. They need prayer and fasting. We can say a prayer for them and ask Jesus to draw them on cords of love.

You feel like giving up till you remember how Jesus ministered. He cast out the devils and then the person is healed and in their right mind.

Be at peace that you always give it your best effort; then move along to those who are Ready to hear Truth.

The Lord bless and keep you, Chris.

Rob, there is an abundance of evidence of Jesus' Life & Form prior to His incarnation. How then do you understand one of the first references I shared, John 1:1-14? Everything we need to know about Jesus is there in those verses: His very Nature as the Word of God, His part in God's creative work, & His absolute divinity being set aside (in part) so that He could become Man, a Servant, for our sake.

We would have to reject Scripture as our authority or at least find multiple flaws in them, to be persuaded that the Christ of the NT is simply a created Holy Being. Even the JWs are pressed to use another word in Colossians 1:15 for 'firstborn' = 'prototokos' to read 'first created' = 'protokitises' to support their belief as you subscribe to. So, we can do whatever we want with Scriptures if we're so inclined, yet the proofs are before us all.

Great verses Bendito. The Lord gave me John 8:58 this morning & then I found your comment confirming the preciousness of that Scripture. Even the Lord's use of "I am" should give us a clear instance of Jesus' declaration of divinity.

A couple of great pertinent verses that you have given, Richard. There's certainly an abundance of proofs of our Lord's Divinity. Thank you.

Rob, may the Spirit grace us with truth, Adam was also born of God.

Speaking of Jesus:

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. ( Micah 5:2)

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ( John 8:58)

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? ( John 14:9)

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. ( 2 Corinthians 5:19)

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. ( Colossians 1:14-17)

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. ( Colossians 2:8-9)

Here's a couple verses I found pertaining to this. As with the others you posted.

John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

John 6:38-39 "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."

There may be more. Hope this helps a little. God Bless.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem by The Spirit of God .

That's all there is to it .

What does born mean ? Beginning

Because Jesus was born of God like no one before him , He Knows God like no other man , so yes he could say he came from God because he was born of God . He that is of God was before creation because God is . But Jesus Identity as Jesus the Christ began in Bethlehem. To separate Jesus from who is is wrong , you cannot have a spiritualized Jesus and a Jesus in the flesh . It's one or the other .

I except the biblical Jesus as the true Jesus , clearly seen in Luke 1 and other places .

The whole deity doctrine is unbiblical . I don't want that Jesus Jesus of Nazareth the Son of God approved by God is good enough for me . Praise the lord !