Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 134

This chapter has given me a more meaningful insight about my existence here on earth - that I was created for a purpose and I should not waste my life. God is perfect in all ways. God is great. He has already planned the rest of my life before I was even planned to be conceived in my mother's womb. God's creation is perfect.

There is a song that goes, What a mighty God we serve. A God of order and wisdom. Any challenger?

That God has been in existence b4 the begining with the time table of the world in his care.that is why he determine the end of the world even b4 it begining. He is d Alfa & Omega.

Genesis 1:1 - Time (beginning), space (heaven), and matter (earth) created --

Few things that hit me in the heart i.e we are all created in His image. Above all His creations, you and you we are all created in His image woohh!!

Genesis 1 holds the key to understanding all the seen and unseen, it establishes a scientific truth that creation had a beginning in TIME......that creation as we see it was no there...that God, not angels or man or demons, spoke everything into being....

It shows the perfect and orderly planning of God's work and how in oneness the Holy Trinity in wisdom,created everything at the right time i.e no beast was created before where they would stand nor all the other creations before light was given to them.Therefore to encourage those in need that in HIS wisdom GOD must give you enough light before HE answers that your prayer,HE sees the darkness that you can,t see-tire not continue praying saint! Glory Halleluyah,HE is Holy hence HE operates in total Light/Grace/Love/Mercy/Justice/Wisdom/Power.....Amen!

All of us love the church so much not realizing that we are not suppose to eat meat the fruit and seeds of the earth is for meat

God did a perfect job and before that, plans were in place.Genesis proves this message, amen give glory to Him.

GOD the father canot be separated from the GOD holy SPIRIT becouse they are one same to the SON.

"Born again" is born from above. We came in the flesh. All who came in the flesh are born from above. Fallen angels as in Gen. 6 have no chance of getting into heaven. We who have came in the flesh and love our Lord Jesus and believe and follow Him will make it back home.

God the Father is God the Holy Spirit and came to earth as God the Son or God with us as the Son of God.
Revelation 22:3They are One joined together on the Throne.

To Phillip Bitner, you cannot understand the trinity. As Peter explained verse 26 "let us make man in our image." God made man a body, a soul, and a spirit. Jesus told Nicodemus except a man be born again he cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Just as water has three states: liquid, solid, and a vapor H2O think of the trinity this way. We understand in part now, but when he that is perfect, Jesus, comes we will know as we are known. So have faith in God, and wait until Jesus returns to take us to glory. We will understand everything then. May God bless you richly my beloved.

very vivid picture of the creation of the earth;
being covered with water & the Lord, God moving the waters from off the face of the earth, & putting them together on each side of the earth, calling them seas. Creating trees that bear fruit & each one having seed within itself to reproduce every tree of his own kind. then the same with vegetation,vines bearing fruit. & creation of every kind that comes from the ground

To Evang. Phillip Bitner's: Did you not read Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.I believe the term us indicates plural. Keep studying, you will find the Trinity. You won't understand it because no one can but you will find it.

To Timothy Wayne George: Of course we see God at work here in Genesis, but we do not see a trinity because there is only God. Never once in scripture does God claim to be anything but God and God alone. Isaiah 44.6 .....I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God. If there were a trinity God would have said beside us there is no God. Since God cannot lie he said beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44.8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are my witnesses. Is there a God there beside me? yea there is no God; I know not any. Would God say he is the only one and lie if there were a trinity?

God is not confused. He said; Genesis 1.27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;....we, man are one. If God were a trinity and he created man in his image; then we would also be a trinity, otherwise we would not be in the image of God!

We must have faith in God to believe the creation story. God has said that without faith it is impossible to please him. So we see the trinity at work God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God spoke the worlds into creation by the word of his power. When Jesus sets up his kingdom he will restore the earth to its beauty before the fall of man. Even so come quickly Lord Jesus.

Firmament. In an age you can't remember, but let me guess and I would tell you O-zone around the earth and its beautiful when the sun hits the water and reflects it all the way around and night is gone.

A day with the LORD is 1000 years. The first part you are reading is restoring,rejuvenation of a distruction of the planet in Jeremiah 4:22 and on to about 27or so. Wasted wilderness. God created a beautifull planet Isaiah 45:18. You have to read the full word to understand. Satans attempted overthrow and the thrid of the children sown by him in the Parable of the sower Matt. 13:36 and on. We are Gods Stars that love Him and satans are satans wicked tares. They believe in half monkey men that to have evolution which would have to be continuest well, they have them half money men hidden some place cause I can't see their proff. Satan stold a third of Gods stars in Revelation 12. Now er all are Replenished. Yoour older than you think. 2nd peter 3:5 world of old or was. The 4th Word in Gen.1:2 was is become # 1961 in strong`s. The tree of good that turned evil that beguiled Eve that, had sex in the fig grove and again meaning continued in labor and had two unidentical twins, one Adams but Cain was of the devil. Jesus is the tree of life and satan is the tree of good and evil that old devil.

It is interesting to see that all creatures ate plants, grass, etc...

It is probably sin that caused animals to start eating each other (dinosaurs). It is fascinatiing to think that what we understand about dinosaurs today could be 100% wrong.

It probably grieved God to see his creation eating each other along with man acting so wickedly. Then along came the flood and wiped everything clean.

I really believe the flood is what killed the dinosaurs. I mean, if it wiped away all humans, then it is logical tho think it wiped away every single creature he created (except the creatures on the ark).

Really really interesting.

This will help the stalmate...
Science now confirms the literal account of genesis 1 to be true

There are two main 'unresolved' issues perpetuating this stalemate. 1) The creation or evolution of the universe. 2) The mystery of the identity of a firmament.
The controversy resulting in a stalemate with no resolve in visual sight clearly indicates flawed or false models unable to correspond or authenticate the literal account itself without contradicting science or reason. This has consequently resulted in two publicly displayed outcomes. 1) It has led science against the account itself to be false and 2) those that defend the account are rendered helpless with such a model to show without contradiction its validity… Either the model is flawed or the account itself is false.
This resolving model will clearly show the account itself is indeed literally accurate, restoring its validity…
1) The creation or evolution of the universe; Introduction

This argument is not over the validity of the genesis account, that science now indicate to be literally true but indeed over one worldwide accepted ‘interpretation’ of the genesis account, that science has shown to be false…

An interpretation of the account to be the creation of the ‘universe’ and that it evolved all within six days. It is this interpretation, widely accepted by Christianity that has been publicly argued, debated, scrutinized and disagreed to even within Christianity itself for hundreds of years now, from Origen in the 3rd century to present day… Indicating a false interpretation or rendering of the account of creation itself…

This is affirmed by its inability to agree with science or reason…
The lack of ability or power for this interpretation to correspond to any physical scientific evidence to declare or prove its validity has been detrimental to our unity. Forcing us to conform to a number of our own experimental physical models and scientific theory…
There is no known literal interpretation of the creation account of genesis 1 accepted by science to be scientifically sound or valid…

The most recent accepted scientific model of theory however; has publicly conceived two new implications regarding the planet and our existence…
Our previous scientific understanding to the origin of our existence has been the evolution of the universe, from the big bang to the current planet and the eventual evolving of our existence for over 200 years…

The Science community now publicly admonishes that ‘something else’ had to have happen to the planet inducing its inhabitants, regardless of the big bang’s universe…
Without this second singular impacting event, there would be no life as we know it, just a nameless planet suspended in space and secondly the occurrence of this “impact theory”, divided the huge planetary size molten rock into two separate planetary size molten rocks… (Wikipedia)

I submit; the account of this life inducing ‘dividing event’ was testified thousands of years ago by the literal record itself, before it was falsely interpreted the ‘creation of the universe’, that in fact predates the ‘dividing’ of this planet by some 14 billion years…

This is affirmed by the ‘scientific recognized impact theory’ itself…
The testament of the event would be the only known literal record of the account that does not contradict science or reason. The ancient genesis account of a Firmament…

2) The mystery of the identity of a firmament; Introduction

For thousands of years scholars and philosophers alike have pondered with what has been considered by many to be the greatest mystery of all time. Yet again, the stalemate of the most pivoting factor to the faith of man has no less than devoured his unity with scattered doubt and uncertainty…

Our blind spot is the opening vision of our planet not known by name as of yet, with water all over it... Now as we see the planet covered in water suspended in space, if this is the only model we have, when God divides the waters from the waters we are left with only limited inconclusive scenarios of what that could look like.

See the planet covered in water, as God divides half of the waters or so above the planet, and the remaining waters gather together to one place, where ever that might be, then at some point all the water above floods back to the planet, would that not recover the planet back to its original void state under water?

Or the divided waters above the firmament remain above the waters under the firmament. Then our current alleged mystery is; where are the waters above? Being understood by the things that are made as it were should be clearly seen but are clearly not.
We have no identified location for the displacement of the waters, on the earth or above it in this scenario, indicating a false model incapable of verifying the account itself… This is affirmed by the mystery of its identity…

Our blind spot is revealed in this question; when we see the planet in space covered in water, other than the water itself, what does the planet have in common with any other planet we know of regarding its form?

Your only answer should be; it’s round... It’s round or spherical with water all over it... What form would you say then, any planet we know of is in? Again its form is round...

Well, according to the documented testament of the account, this planet was WITHOUT its form, covered entirely with water... I wonder what that model might look like, a PLANET, without its current form, suspended in space, covered in water… It would be the ‘true verifying model’ to test.

To see the literal account in full go to, firmament-theresolve dot com.

Thank you for your time,

EC

To Lyle Roy

My brother was an atheist but the more he tried to prove it the less evidence he had, he now knows that there is more around us than what we can see with our eyes. I'm not so sure I understand it correctly, but does an atheist not believe anything spiritual,like ghost, angels, demons, God or Satan?
When I looked at the days of creation I was puzzled also to see light created in the first day and again on the third day. Some time later I seen that in the scriptures that God does everything in the spiritual first then in the natural, It really opened the picture for me. Check out the comments I made on Jan. 24, 2012, That's what I see.
By the way your comment says that you had a revelation and needed the bible for a reference, did it confirm or deny your revelation? And what was your initial revelation?

Peace

If you read the Holy Bible from a scientific view it is pointless. It is not a history book but a word of God if you a ready to accept it like that. god bless you.

Hi friendly neighborhood athiest, (like the name, by the way)

You bring up some interesting points, but I believe God handled all those details and dependencies just fine. He's the one that made the balance and everything so dependent on each other, for example, the exact placement of the Earth from the sun, so its the right temperature, and how it affects living things. I think either verse 3 or verse 14 is when God created the sun. Yeah, living things were made to be dependent on the sun and dependent on countless factors in order to survive. I personally believe it. God can do anything.

Hello!

This is your friendly Atheist dropping in to ask a few questions... I had a revelation today and needed the Bible for a reference. Specifically Genesis. The "Creation" story.

Now, as a "free" thinker, you should all be able to wrap your heads around the idea that Genesis looks to be written out of order. Seriously. The universe, the stars, and the Sun would all have had to be "made" before the Earth its self. We know for a fact that the Sun gives us our light source and that with out it it would be very very dark, (and cold). Believing that the earth was created before the Sun is just plain gullibility. Not only that, but plant life was supposedly made before the creation of the Sun. Seriously? I'm also not seeing any references to the "creation" of the atmosphere, oxygen/air, or the magnetic poles, the massive molten core of the Earth, nor any mention of elements and other "specifics" that science has answered.

Please, take a step back and look at this logically, from a scientific view. Analyze and use what we know as basic fact to see the flaws in this, and that it was written by man to gain power over an ignorant people in a time when most people were uneducated and believed just about anything that gave them answers.

To lolol3456's

If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?

Please remember that the Bible, the inspired word of God came, through many characters, all with their own personalities and ways of expressing the reality of God. These personal encounters with God are meant as a guide to cultivate our own relationship with the Creator.
We need to check our personal experience with the scriptures to be sure that we are on the wright track and that we don't do some of the extreme things that we read about or see in the news. Keep reading your bible and asking questions, usually the answer is near the question. God will personally give you the answers if you're sincere.

Good luck and God Bless

How could god said something if voice and sound didn't exist?!?!

TO ANASOPHIE
Generally I give a strong support when one makes an effort to go under the surface of the Holy Text and creates his own attitude. It is irrelevant to me if I agree or disagree. It is important to be honest with yourself.
Those kind of people are known as gnostics, and their destiny through history was to walk alone.
If you recognize yourself in this story good for you, if not I am sorry I missed the point. Anyway
GOD BLESS YOU.

We all know that there is a spiritual reality as well as a natural reality. Elisha prayed that the eyes of the young man with him would be opened, and when they were, he seen a great host of angels(11 kings 6:17). Also an angel spoke to Abraham out of heaven ( Gen. 22:11)That being said the spiritual realm is all around us, good and evil.
The first three days of creation are unique in my bible (kjv) were five elements were created and capitalized DAY, NIGHT, HEAVEN, EARTH AND SEAS. For a second let's just look at the numbers. 3 days , 5 elements. First day has 3 verses, second day has 3 verses, and the third day has 5 verses. 3 is the number of perfection 5 is the number of grace.
Those five elements are symbolic
DAY = GOOD
NIGHT = EVIL
HEAVEN = SPIRITUAL REALM
EARTH = NATURAL REALM
SEAS = LIFE
Seeing this part of creation this way has helped me answer some questions, like why sometimes it says into the earth and unto the earth. Rev. 12:8&9 " ... neither was their place found any more in heaven.(spiritual realm) (9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,(natural realm) and his angels with him."
Seeing the first three days of creation this way has also raised questions that I don't have the answers to and probably never will, but i don't believe in coincidences and I know that the bible will not contradict itself. Salvation is a personal experience with God. When we stand to give account of our lives, "he said this..." will not be accepted. We have to work out our own salvation through prayer and fasting and reading the Word of God. Religion is man made, we are God made.

God Bless

The earth in Gen 1: 1-2 has a Spiritual meaning. The earth is our mind of understanding. There was light, meaning understanding. If this is not Spiritual, then why did God made the light on the first day, but only created the sun on the 3rd day? There is a few verses in the bible, that proves that the earth is a person/mind of person. Please see Isa 1:2, Rev 12:16, Isa 66:8, Luke 8:4-15, Hab 2:14, Eze 43:2 You will see that Jesus explains the parable of the seed which is sowed, but Jesus shows us that earth is our mind of understanding. We should serve God in Spirit and in truth. The Bible is a Spiritual book.