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To clarify, S. Spencer,

I cannot remember if I asked these specific questions in the format I did with Lbooth, but most likely within responses to different people.

Perhaps I was not very clear, so to clarify, I was speaking of questions about dispensational beliefs in general, not necessarily the specific questions I posted. So I apologize for not being a clear as I should have been.

I appreciate both your and Chris' responses to my inquiries. However, I would not consider the "answers" to my questions as giving clear, direct, explicit, and convincing Scriptural references to prove any of the questions posed.

That evidence is what I am seeking.

Gigi, (1 of 2)

I can bet that you shall not get it from these folks who takes literal passages but conveniently do not use them where it would have helped the text in question as the Pharisees tried to entangle Jesus in by his own words. Brother Chris used the same gambit, and hypothetical he calls it. Answer is to be either yea or nay so it merely reveals bad faith in which he tries together Bro L Booth S Spencer. They have set up good ole' shell game. It smelled so far and having come from vacation let me giveI will cite three examples.Jesus forbade his disciples from putting the date or on his omnipotence. "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."( Acts 1.7) How come these heretical sects give what God has set apart in his own power. Two sets of 144,000 which is a tag for Holiness. When the day was decreed for his Son the number to indicate the gospel and doctrine of Christ pendent on His holiness. The slain Lamb emblem allows the book of Lamb to settle these few elect. Many are called but the book of the Lamb determines the final count. Are the 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel? Of course not.

God knew the betrayal of Judah as well as the nation of Israel Jesus was forewarned so he tells his disciples, " Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?/He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve."(Jn.6.70-71) He was the Son of man as well as the Word become flesh. Gor this reason when he healed the leper he told him to follow the Law of Moses for a testimony unto the Jews. He was among them but not one of the, Two occasions he collected 12 baskets of broken bits as the Son of man and Seven baskets as the Word become flesh. It is the Law of the Spirit who set the everlasying Covenant of seven days. As God tells Elijah of 7000 who have not bowed there knees. As with 7x1000 is not actual head count but the Word

Dear Bennymkje

I am hoping to receive the kind of answers from dispensationalists that cite Scripture to prove their beliefs as being correct.

As I said before, answers from dispensationalists ted to be vague-meaning, not specific, detailed, citing Scriptures that plainly teach the doctrine they hold. But I have hope that some will answer my questions this way. I desire clarity and a firm Scriptural proof for such doctrines if they are true.

Yes Mr. Spencer,

There certainly will be a rapture and resurrection of true believers on the Last Day when Christ returns on the clouds of glory to wrap up his judgment and salvation program, destroy this sin-cursed earth, and create New Heavens and New Earth.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 "13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

2 Peter 3:10-15 "10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation;"

See earlier response re Kingdom of Christ.

Hi The Bible Alone.

Somehow I missed this response from you.

I saw it on my email.

Sorry for such a late response.

I see you mentioned 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 along with 2 Peter 3:10-15.

Peter is talking about the day of the Lord.

He says "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night.

I agree what you said in an earlier post "you must compare scripture with scripture!

I respect that! so go and compare all the scripture describing the day of the Lord and show me DEFINITIVELY where there is a removal of saints.

We are looking for "single one verse or scripture that definitively proves each viewpoint.

There is a lot to be said but that's all I have on this at this time until I discourse with Gigi and give my reasoning of scripture and get an understanding on where and how she comes up with her viewpoints.

May I ask, how do you view yourself when it comes to interpreting the Bible?

PREMILLENNIAL.

POST MILLENNIAL

or AMILLENNIAL?

Thank you and God bless.