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  • Giannis - 1 year ago
    Hello Spencer, 1/2

    Back to what we were talking about, 3 weeks ago. I am very sorry for my very late response but there were a lot of things for me to do during those past 3 weeks plus that I spent many days in fasting for personal and family issues.

    So about the beasts. Firstly lets start from Nebuchadnezzar's dream (2nd chapter). The 4th kindom in that vision was the Roman empire, the legs.The first is the Babylonians, the 2nd the Persians, the 3rd the Macedonians and the 4th the Romans. Then the feet is the last Kingdom on earth. That Kingdom refers to (as I know it) the Kingdom of the antichrist, the last kingdom which will rule over the whole earth. So from the Romans the story goes direct to the end times, thus ommiting all those empires that existed inbetween.

    In the 7th chapter Daniel sees a vision, 4 beasts who come out of the see (figuratively the nations). The 4th kingdom now refers to the last kingdom. The vision mentions the 10 horns and the little horn.

    In the 8th chapter Daniel sees another vision. The ram with the 2 horns (the MedoPersians), then the goat who is the king of Grecia (Alexander and the Macedonians). "Aigai" or "Aegae" was the royall city of the Macedonians which means "goats". Alexander is presented as the great horn from which other 4 horns erected (his 4 successors). And then the story says that from one of those horns a little horn erected. This same little horn is refered in both chapters 7 and 8. So that little horn in chapter 8 is not Antiochus the Epiphanes (a successor of Alexander who fought the Jews and destroyed the temple) but it is a person in the end times, or both.

    In chapter 11 again Alexander and his successors is mentioned. Four successors will arise from him. In verse 21 says, "And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries." . That refers to a person who comes out of one of his successors.



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