Bible Discussion Thread

Good morning Gi Gi....Lemme give ya my slant on the 2 baptisms, Remember Jesus told that woman at the well

whosoever drinks of this water Jacobs well THE OLD COVENANT ( WATER baptism) he will thirst again , Our thirst

for SALVATION cannot be quenched by Water Baptism. Jesus tells her if you knew the Gift of God and who it is that

askest of thee to drink you wd have asked on him and he wd have given thee LIVING WATER .That Gift OF GOD is not

WATER Baptism But baptism of the H.G. Jesus tells her whosover drinks of this water ( water baptism ) he will thirst

again but whosoever drinks of the water that will give him ( the GIFT OF GOD H.G. BAPTISM HIS BLOOD ) That Gift

of God, HE WILL NEVA THIRST AGAIN, ...But the water that i shall give him shall be a WELL OF WATER springing up

unto everlasting life ....Behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. that resulted

from the Cross his blood etc....Behold the LAMB OF GOD that taketh away the sins of the world....WATER BAPTISM

cannot remits sin if it cd Jesus shed his blood in vain AND THE CROSS WAS JUST FOOLISHNESS....Thats what you are

preaching Gi Gi the cross was just foolishness who needs it ALL WE NEED IS WATER BAPTISM And we will neva thirst

again for salvation....I pray for you GG......Nothin can be ADDED TO what he did at Calvary When he said it was

Finished it was finished Nothin can be added to it period....Behold i make all things new which is that new creature

the H.G. That Child of PROMISE....She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule ALL NATIONS....Which is the result

of his good seed the living Word....The baptism of PROMISE....Thats what Peter was trying to do add water baptism to

the CROSS which is a slap in the face of God and the lamb of God. What i have made clean do not call common or

unclean by commanding water baptism to make these ppl clean.....Its akin to me trying to paint another picture over

over the Mona Lisa....k gbu

oops mistakenly tapped to send last post. The Last Two sentences should read

..then seeking the enduement of the Holy Spirit ("baptism" as you incorrectly call it) is also adding to the work of the cross. I never intimated that baptism replaces the work of Jesus on the cross or that what He did is ineffective. Nor did I say that water baptism is all that is needed to be saved. I just believe in taking in the whole counsel of Scripture on a matter rather than pick and choose verses to paste together to manufacture a meaning that was not intended in Scripture. Nothing can be added to the work of Jesus or the Holy Spirit concerning salvation. It is all a work of God, not of man. But how we are to respond to this work of grace is made clear in Scripture.

Let's be consistent and real about this and stop using euphemistic language and inapplicable interpretations to try to prove a point.

I appreciate your response. It gives me an opportunity to get to know your thinking more and to respond in a sensible way. I never said that water baptism "makes one clean" as God had already declared Cornelius clean. If understood in context most people would understand what I said in my post, but I truly don't think that you wish to understand what I said or even understand the Scriptures. You simply attempt to make Scriptures say what you wish them to say by your many additions, substitutions, terminology, and inaccurate examples from Scripture content.

So, I am glad that you are concerned about me and what I say. I am also concerned about you and what you say. So, I do believe that these discussions are truly helpful even if we do not agree on a topic. I believe God is at work in us and those reading. He desires us to know the Truth and will lead us in it.

Good Morning, Alex. I was not saying what you implied.

I as was pointing out what actually happened in the instances in Acts where people came to belief in Jesus through the action of the Holy Spirit. Conversion is done by God through the Holy Spirit. The accounts in Acts show us how Paul and the apostles approached this conversion in new believers. I am sure that each of these apostles knew exactly what God wished for them to do once the Holy Spirit had brought people to belief, whether it was to preach the gospel, to baptize in water, or to pray and/or lay ands upon them to be endued with the Holy Spirit's power (as happened at Pentecost.)

Again, Alex, Scripture does not call the enduement of power by the Holy Spirit "baptism", so you err when you call it that. Also, if someone has a person lay hands on them and pray for the Holy Spirit to come upon someone, isn't that a "work" just the same as submitting to water baptism? Isn't confessing with one's mouth that Jesus is Lord a "work"? Obeying God by following directions in Scripture and the lead of the Holy Spirit(as the apostles did in Acts) in these encounters is not adding anything to the work of Jesus on the cross this were true then seeking the enduement of the Holy Spirit (you call it "baptism" Let's be consistent and real about this and stop using euphemistic language and to try to prove a point.