Your right in one God, one faith, and one baptism. But when we except the water baptism we die to the old Adam nature, and we live in Christ Jesus. Water baptism is to show that you die in the old sinful man and resurrected in a new man, in Christ Jesus. Water baptism is a must that is the reason Jesus got baptized by John to show us water baptism is a part of the walk with God. We have to crucify the old man, bury the old man in water and raise up out of the water a new man in Christ Jesus. This is the will of God that every Christain be baptized in water not sprinkled with water but really be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost which is the name of Jesus. God told me to baptize in this form to keep conflict down. It covers the Christians that believe in baptism should be in the name of the Father the son and the Holy Ghost It also covers the Christians that believe baptism should be done in the name of Jesus.
DAvid, Jesus took whips and went after the money changers in the temple. He may have done tis on two occasions. So, although he was always loving, he was showed strong reactions to things that were wrong and that could lead people astray.
I am not trying to be argumentative here, just pointing out some things that do not fit what you have posted. God Bless.
John 2:15, NIV: "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
John 2:15 KJV "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"
Gigi In Mathew 13-21 the scripture inverse 19 he will not strive, he confronted and shut down and at times walked away so this is a matter of perspective to me. It Is Written.
Philip baptized the eunuch after the eunuch confessed that he believed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (verses 37-38) and then Philip was miraculously caught away , disappearing out of the eunuch's sight. The text does not say if the Holy Spirit fell upon the eunuch, but the Spirit ad regenerated him and indwelt him prior to believing.
So, Alex in all of these instances, we have a water baptism into the name of the Lord Jesus at some point in the unfolding events, but not every event happened in the same order. And not every situation had the Holy Spirit come upon the believers. Study these situations in Acts, putting aside your viewpoint and anti-water baptism agenda and learn from te word what is truly taught.
There were other times in Acts when the person who was being visited by the apostles and the person had already believed in God and had been regenerated (Cornelius in Acts 10) and the Spirit dwelled within. Upon hearing the gospel, the Holy Spirit cam upon these people of Cornelius' household without the laying on of hands. And after this, these people were water baptized.
There were times such as with Apollos and Acts 19, where the believers had been baptized by Apollos in John's water baptism which was not the same as Jesus' water baptism. They already were regenerated with the Spirit dwelling within prior to being baptized into the name of Jesus. Afterwards, hands were laid upon them and the Holy Spirit coma upon them as He had at Pentecost to the apostles and disciples.
In Acts 8 Philip went to Samaria and preached the gospel, people believed (were regenerated and indwelt with the Holy Spirit) and miracles were performed by God through Philip. Word got to the apostles in Jerusalem that the Samaritans and so sent Peter and John there to pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit (verses 14-19), since these new believers had been water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus (verse 16) and the Holy Spirit had not fallen upon those who were water baptized prior. So Peter and John laid hands upon them and the Holy Spirit was received by them (verse 17).
There was belief and water baptism in this instance, and then a sort time later, the laying on of hands for the Holy Spirit to come upon them.
In chapter 9 After Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus, Ananias first laid on Paul to miraculously restore Paul's sight. Then immediately after the scales fell from Paul's eyes, he rose up and was water baptized by Ananias (verse18) It does not say when the Spirit come upon Paul in text, so we do not when or if this happened to Paul.
In Acts 9, Philip meets up with the Ethiopian eunuch and preaches the gospel to him, and as soon as they came upon water,
Alex, the outpouring or infilling of the Holy Spirit spoken of in Acts is never called a "baptism" Also, in chapter 19 you again misrepresent what happened in this encounter wit Paul and the people at Ephesus, including Apollos. When Pau had asked if they had asked, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" (verse 2a) The people said that they had not even heard there was a Holy Spirit. (verse 2b) And then Paul said, "Into what then were you baptized?" and they replied to Paul, "Into John's (the Baptist) baptism. (verse 3). Paul then explains in verse 4 "John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Jesus Christ."
When the people heard this, they were then baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus (verse). This was water baptism as there was only one baptism mentioned by Jesus, water, or practiced by the apostles, water.
Now pay close attention, Alex. After these believers were water baptized, then Paul laid hands on them and the Holy spirit came upon them. (verse 6). So, the water baptism was followed by the laying on of hands which prompted the Holy Spirit entering the situation and resting upon them, as at Pentacost. The Holy Spirit was already in them, because one cannot believe in Jesus without the Spirit regenerating someone and indwelling someone's renewed sanctified spirit nature. So you are incorrect in your assessment of this situation because you have an obvious aversion to water baptism.
If you read all of Acts, you find that there were instances where believers were baptized in water and the Holy Spirit came upon the believers some time later without the laying on of hands (the apostles and disciples who were baptized by Jesus in water before His death and the Spirit came upon them at Pentacost, but was received by these people when Jesus breathed and said "Receive ye the Holy spirit." So there were delays between each subsequent spiritual event.
I don't know you sweetheart, but I have been a child of God since the young age of sixteen. Blood bought, born again and Spirit filled. Yes the Holy Spirit infilling is an actual experience. Jesus promised it after His advent. He told His children to look for the Spirit of Truth which would come after He left. Last chapter of Acts. Real it and pray.
it is real and is as real as Salvation. You need to pray and ask the Lord to reveal this to you. You must want this free gift just as the free gift of Salvation, but you must believe and have the same faith for this wonderous gift as you do for the great plan of Salvation. I will pray for you and for the Lord Jesus to give you a receiving heart. In the times of the end we all need the Holy Spirit for our guidance and help. He helps you to pray and receive an answer when nothing else will work. Praise the Lord Jesus for the wonderful Comforter He sent back to us on the day of Pentecost and is still alive and working in the Kingdom of God today just as His word said. In the love and service of our Master, Jesus Christ. Janice
Dear Janice, I think you have misunderstood me. I did not say that the Holy Spirit coming upon people with power as in the book of Acts is not a real experience , nor that I haven't received the Holy Spirit this way. I have. What I was talking about was the events in Acts as they related to the gospel message, the work of the Holy Spirit to regenerate and bestow grace and faith upon a person to enable them to believe the gospel, profession of faith in Jesus on the part of a new believer, water baptism and the enduement of the Holy Spirit upon believers.
As for me, I have been a believer all of my life. I have been indwelt by the Holy Spirit since God regenerated me upon my conversion and the Holy Spirit continues to fill me all along the way. I have had hands lain on me for the Spirit to come upon me as it speaks of it in the book of Acts when I was in college. I have walked a Spirit-filled life for all these
years, and I am 65.
So, it is true, you don't know me wen you posted. Now you know more about me. I seek to walk by the Spirit everyday of my life, because I know that this is the kind of life we are called to live and it is provided supernaturally by the Holy Spirit. .
Thank you for your concern about me. I appreciate tat. We are sisters in Christ. We may not agree on everything or may misunderstand each other, but we are together in this wonderful family of God through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. to God be the glory forever and ever. Amen
Johns disciples was still preaching water baptism , Scripture says he knew only John's baptism,..But when
Aquila and Pricilla heard him they expounded unto him the ways of God more perfectly.Which was H.G. BAPTISM.
The Baptism OF Promise....As there is only 1 valid baptism which is baptism of the H.G...1 lord , 1 faith, ...one
baptism.
Your right in one God, one faith, and one baptism. But when we except the water baptism we die to the old Adam nature, and we live in Christ Jesus. Water baptism is to show that you die in the old sinful man and resurrected in a new man, in Christ Jesus. Water baptism is a must that is the reason Jesus got baptized by John to show us water baptism is a part of the walk with God. We have to crucify the old man, bury the old man in water and raise up out of the water a new man in Christ Jesus. This is the will of God that every Christain be baptized in water not sprinkled with water but really be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the son, and of the Holy Ghost which is the name of Jesus. God told me to baptize in this form to keep conflict down. It covers the Christians that believe in baptism should be in the name of the Father the son and the Holy Ghost It also covers the Christians that believe baptism should be done in the name of Jesus.
God Bless
stay prayed up and ready to go up
cowboy
its not a disagreement I'm just stating the reality, also this is not saying the Bible is wrong or God changed
His Will and Word are the constant. God Bless also don't need added comment there will be nothing gained.
and displayed the Father and His Works and walked in love and when needed reminded them of the correct
way to believe. I personally was never mentally forced or pushed or made to believe Gods Word, I was taught
by people walking and teaching in Love that was my attraction it was what they SAID was equal to what they DID was
God working in them doing his good will and pleasure. Indeed it was God working in them both to will and to
go His good Pleasure. Then I was taught the how and that was my eternal change by our eternal Lord and
Saviour and our God. God melted a very Hard Heart MINE!
I am not trying to be argumentative here, just pointing out some things that do not fit what you have posted. God Bless.
nothing about whips so why are we changing what's written.also the reason he was angry was because the
courtyard where the people brought in sacrificial animals turned into a marketplace to sell animals for top dollar
that were crippled and defective very corrupt! Just sticking with scripture.
Yes, Jesus made a whip.
John 2:15, NIV: "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
John 2:15 KJV "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"
Read and believe.
We're here to help each other, glad I could share the correct scripture with you regarding the whip, as GiGi originally stated.
Also, I'm glad to hear you have been walking with the Lord for 45 years.
I enjoy reading all of your comments, please keep them coming.
Much love to you Bro!
it literally says whip it is scourge he didn't beat any one or animal, and his anger was directed at the corrupt
practice of selling junk products in the temple at top dollar. Been a believer for 45 years praise God, moving onward
and upward. This is one of only a few situations in all four Gospels where the anger of God was displayed because
of the corruption in the House of God the Temple. As I stated previously it was not the norm with our Saviour which
was the context of the conversation. Moving onward and upward God Bless P.S. been a Believer for 45 Years just
thought You'd be blessed to know that.
Jesus contended with the Scribes and Pharisees often.
is the wisdom of the world. This depends on your perspective, but I'm not a comeback person so I'll
dp what the beatles did. Let It Be.
Philip baptized the eunuch after the eunuch confessed that he believed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (verses 37-38) and then Philip was miraculously caught away , disappearing out of the eunuch's sight. The text does not say if the Holy Spirit fell upon the eunuch, but the Spirit ad regenerated him and indwelt him prior to believing.
So, Alex in all of these instances, we have a water baptism into the name of the Lord Jesus at some point in the unfolding events, but not every event happened in the same order. And not every situation had the Holy Spirit come upon the believers. Study these situations in Acts, putting aside your viewpoint and anti-water baptism agenda and learn from te word what is truly taught.
There were other times in Acts when the person who was being visited by the apostles and the person had already believed in God and had been regenerated (Cornelius in Acts 10) and the Spirit dwelled within. Upon hearing the gospel, the Holy Spirit cam upon these people of Cornelius' household without the laying on of hands. And after this, these people were water baptized.
There were times such as with Apollos and Acts 19, where the believers had been baptized by Apollos in John's water baptism which was not the same as Jesus' water baptism. They already were regenerated with the Spirit dwelling within prior to being baptized into the name of Jesus. Afterwards, hands were laid upon them and the Holy Spirit coma upon them as He had at Pentecost to the apostles and disciples.
In Acts 8 Philip went to Samaria and preached the gospel, people believed (were regenerated and indwelt with the Holy Spirit) and miracles were performed by God through Philip. Word got to the apostles in Jerusalem that the Samaritans and so sent Peter and John there to pray for them to receive the Holy Spirit (verses 14-19), since these new believers had been water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus (verse 16) and the Holy Spirit had not fallen upon those who were water baptized prior. So Peter and John laid hands upon them and the Holy Spirit was received by them (verse 17).
There was belief and water baptism in this instance, and then a sort time later, the laying on of hands for the Holy Spirit to come upon them.
In chapter 9 After Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus, Ananias first laid on Paul to miraculously restore Paul's sight. Then immediately after the scales fell from Paul's eyes, he rose up and was water baptized by Ananias (verse18) It does not say when the Spirit come upon Paul in text, so we do not when or if this happened to Paul.
In Acts 9, Philip meets up with the Ethiopian eunuch and preaches the gospel to him, and as soon as they came upon water,
When the people heard this, they were then baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus (verse). This was water baptism as there was only one baptism mentioned by Jesus, water, or practiced by the apostles, water.
Now pay close attention, Alex. After these believers were water baptized, then Paul laid hands on them and the Holy spirit came upon them. (verse 6). So, the water baptism was followed by the laying on of hands which prompted the Holy Spirit entering the situation and resting upon them, as at Pentacost. The Holy Spirit was already in them, because one cannot believe in Jesus without the Spirit regenerating someone and indwelling someone's renewed sanctified spirit nature. So you are incorrect in your assessment of this situation because you have an obvious aversion to water baptism.
If you read all of Acts, you find that there were instances where believers were baptized in water and the Holy Spirit came upon the believers some time later without the laying on of hands (the apostles and disciples who were baptized by Jesus in water before His death and the Spirit came upon them at Pentacost, but was received by these people when Jesus breathed and said "Receive ye the Holy spirit." So there were delays between each subsequent spiritual event.
it is real and is as real as Salvation. You need to pray and ask the Lord to reveal this to you. You must want this free gift just as the free gift of Salvation, but you must believe and have the same faith for this wonderous gift as you do for the great plan of Salvation. I will pray for you and for the Lord Jesus to give you a receiving heart. In the times of the end we all need the Holy Spirit for our guidance and help. He helps you to pray and receive an answer when nothing else will work. Praise the Lord Jesus for the wonderful Comforter He sent back to us on the day of Pentecost and is still alive and working in the Kingdom of God today just as His word said. In the love and service of our Master, Jesus Christ. Janice
As for me, I have been a believer all of my life. I have been indwelt by the Holy Spirit since God regenerated me upon my conversion and the Holy Spirit continues to fill me all along the way. I have had hands lain on me for the Spirit to come upon me as it speaks of it in the book of Acts when I was in college. I have walked a Spirit-filled life for all these
years, and I am 65.
So, it is true, you don't know me wen you posted. Now you know more about me. I seek to walk by the Spirit everyday of my life, because I know that this is the kind of life we are called to live and it is provided supernaturally by the Holy Spirit. .
Thank you for your concern about me. I appreciate tat. We are sisters in Christ. We may not agree on everything or may misunderstand each other, but we are together in this wonderful family of God through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. to God be the glory forever and ever. Amen
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