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  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO on John 19 - 5 years ago
    Chris, I question that God just lets us go about our business without interfering. You say God created us and left us alone? But the Bible says otherwise. In Dan 11:29, the Angel tells Daniel that "at the Appointed Time" something will happen. That is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. Christ came at the Appointed Time. He will return at the Appointed Time. What does it mean to "appoint" something? Clearly, it is God who appoints. It is God who "Schedules". It is God who Plans and Determines the course of history. Isa 41:4, "Who has accomplished this? Who has determined the course of history from the beginning? I, the LORD, was there first, and I will be there to the end." (God's Word Translation). Isa 46:10, "I distinguish the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come...'My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all My good pleasure.'

    In Gen 18:14, Abraham is asked, "Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the Appointed Time I will return to you-in about a year-and Sarah will have a son." Was Sarah having a baby something God knew about the Future or something He deliberately Planned and caused to happen? Did God just want Sarah to have a baby, or was there a Purpose behind it? Did God Plan the birth of Isaac with a Purpose?

    We can say that God knows what is in the heart of man, but how does He know it? See John 2:25, "But Jesus did not entrust Himself to them, for He knew all men. He did not need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man."

    Let me interject, that while I have an opinion based on what is available, given my experience and studies, this is what I have concluded. But the fact is, I don't know. I could be wrong. You might be right. But this is how I see it.

    Paul speaks of God's Pre-destination of our adoption, of being conformed to His image. Eph 1:11,'My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all My good pleasure'. God is not just involved, He determines.
  • Joe - In Reply on John 19 - 4 years ago
    Carlos - very well said. I definitely share your belief.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - In Reply on John 19 - 4 years ago
    Thank you Joe.



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