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Revelation 17:8 says that 'the beast was', which means that he was alive, 'and is not', which means that he died, 'and yet is', which doesn't mean that he was raised from the dead, but rather that his activity is alive through his worshippers, and that his writing are still in existence. So, we have to look into history to know who he was, and realize that he is not actually alive today.

mystery Babylon mother of harlots
and the abominations of the earth wake up church mother
of harlots is seducing churches who once preached
the real gospel of Jesus Christ the great apostasy is here
read revelation 17 the city on seven hills which is Rome

It's nothing new. Each best are same in Dan. and it names em. Starting with Babylon through Rome. Each world power adopted old powers practice along with it. Rome ended up being a pagan cluster of religions with a Jesus hat on top. Rome was the harlott, and she has daughters. Futurism in Rev was started by Rome to take the heat off. Every protestant knew this until about 1900. It's been buried.

In Genesis 11:1-9 is the recorded beginnings of that spirit of "The Great Whore" which reigns over the kings of the earth: because the confounding of the languages, and scattering of them to every corner of the world, did not take that heathen rebellion and antichrist spirit out of their hearts. The hypocrites and apostates have always been those who taken their portion on the back of the beast.

In Genesis 11:1-9 we have the nativity of that "Great Whore" spirit, ever since in the world. When the Lord came down to see the city and the tower that they were building, He said, "The people are one, and have all one language, and this they begin to do; and now nothing will be restrained from them of all that they have imagined to do?" So their imagination today is to casting off all restraint.

Verse 15 tells you who the religious whore is. It's the people and their new religion as they chase after a false Christ because they have been told Jesus is coming and he is going to fly us away and Satan acting as Jesus will be preaching come fly with me, worshipp me. Don't get caught worshipping the devil you won't be on the happy list and God's consuming fire won't be a warm feeling of love.

PARADOX. The Rightly Divided Word of Truth. The book of Revelation is still a near future book which does not go into effect until the Kingdom of God Holy Spirit Tongues is Gathered up to meet our Blessed Lord and Savior in the air and so shall we ever be with our King Glory Amen. Behold: The transition back to the book of Revelation {Kingdom of Heaven wrath} is truly neigh at hand amen indeed.

Gary is correct pointing out Rome. Notice that the harlott has daughters. This is where self deception comes in. The protestants claimed "sola scriptura" (the Bible only) but even Rome pointed out to ALL protestants at the Council of Trent in the mid 1500s, " You don't follow the Bible only, you STILL pay homage to Rome because you don't observe the Sabbath, but keep Rome's venerable day of rest."

whore are people worshipping the first supernatural powerful, calls himself Christ return to fly you away. I don't know how or why Christians will follow Satan a false messiah I guess it's because he twist scriptures so perfectly that a lie sounds true because we know how Christ returns at the 7th trump with hail stones hitting earth mixed with fire to burn the wickedness away. Stay away of them.

The great prostitute in the book of revelation is none other than the woman of the seed of the serpent who has a name. She will be exposed once and for all along with all things. The Dreadful and the Terrible Day of the Lord comes for a reason and a purpose in the end of this age of the gentiles. Our Abba Father in Heaven will send Elijah to fully purge and purify the true Bride Zion Amen indeed.

This could be a metaphorical Babylon of course. And might fit the then popular condition of Roman Catholicism. It seems to be a declaration of a failed Dominion. One spent on whoring with the world rather then governing.

Patty, Almighty God, the LORD and only SAVIOUR will pour his wrath on the children of disobedience in America, the great whore, beginning with NYC as the whole world descends into spiritual damnation. Only JESUS CHRIST can and will save your soul from this hell if you receive Him. Blessings to all, specially those who receive the Holy Spirit of JESUS to day. JESUS SAVES. Amen Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Lu2677, I can come up with nothing but must teach that which my heavenly Father gives me, lest I lean on my own understanding. Be blessed. Amen John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. Jeremiah 10:8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities. Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Vs 8 Satan on earth going to and from as in Job 1 then he tempted CHRIST Satan could go to earth. Then it ended and Satan is held by Michael so he was not his spirit only and then Satan comes out of the pit kick to earth and the first seal tells us he comes as antichrist to deceive the whole world and then at the 7th trump CHRIST crushes Satans head. Don't follow false Christ that shall come.

This is prophecy and is yet to come. The time is come and the day draweth nigh. We now live in the midst of tribulations with wrath to follow. I pray the blessed LORD finds many worthy to escape the evil to come. God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior loves us beyond our comprehension! We have been given so much to be thankful for and His mercy endures forever!

All the evil that happened then , has never stopped. It is on going in present days.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Psalms 18:25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright; Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

This chapter of explaining is very good as you look at vs 15 that the waters are the people that the whore rises from. Almost every time you read waters or sea in this book it means people. So this religious one world religion rises up with antichrist in charge with his 10 supernatural kings. Not the earthly kings that begin to get things started but when you see the false Antichrist and his 10 kings show up that's when you know Satan is on earth or just look out your window and you'll see the rapture buses going by to the airport to fly to Jerusalem because they believe that the first CHRIST is going to fly them someplace? But after the first tribulation AND THEN you will see the Lord coming to consume the wicked one and his followers with fire and He will set up His Kingdom here.

In the New Testament Paul changed the sabbath. Sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath. We have to keep every day holy. The Holy Ghost is our sabbath. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. This is the rest where in the weary shall rest. 1 Corinthians 16:1 Paul gave order to the church. 1 Corinthians 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come unto you. He wanted them to have there tithe and offering there and ready when he got there.

Believers should be very careful walk in the spirit always to escaspe these great deceitful of antrcist

I noticed that the revealation never mentioned the word antichrist

17 verse 9 the mountains are Nations. But keep in mind Satan as antichrist meaning not Christ, instead of Christ will have the whole world that he will deceive into believing he is Christ so not only will the Catholics be following Satan but every church out in the world except Gods chosen election and that's the ones we want to listen to when they are delivered up to the churches of Satans one world system and it won't be them speaking but the Holy Spirit speaking through them. The will be led by the two witnesses and the world will hate them because the world doesn't want to here the truth that their Jesus isn't the real Jesus. They will say we are no widow our husband is with us but it's not the true Husband.

17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth. So, which place in the world has seven hills or mountains...Vatican City. The kingdom which has many crowns is the catholic church. This is where the antichrist will sit and everyone believes he will be an evil person when the bible says he will be adored and loved. Who doesn't love the pope. Even non believers love the pope. Satan will do everything to deceive the people of God including acting as if he is a man of God so he can go anywhere and do anything. The bible also teaches he is a man who will NOT desire women. Hmmm...pope is abstinent and doesn't desire women or the things of her. Not to say the current pope is the antichrist but even the catholic church's bible teaches there will be an antipope that will sit in Rome and rule the earth.

The seven heads are seven mountains... Jeremiah 51:25, the seven mountains have seven kings, the next verse 10 makes that very clear.

city on seven hills rome this is black and white prayerfully read the bible you have been deceived

I see this as pointing to North America, the USA in particular, being the super-power that it was, and is not, but will be again, the seven mountains are empires, 5 are fallen, Egyptian, Babylonian, Asyrian, Persian, and Mesoptiamian, One is at the time of St. John , Roman.. and one is yet to be..English..which will remain for a short season.. And Mystery is the 8th empire, born of the 7th, and her great city, that rules the kings of the earth, where her statute stands at its ports,entrance, where all the captians can see her, and her most glorious city, New York..

It 's worldly Jerusalem isn 't it, not Rome.

I am a proud American and loved what this country stood for but regretfully i must ask the question ... how can we be so blind? is it because we live and love here? not everything is exactly literal in the Bible or these chapter 17 writings but if one is a student of the word of God he will realize under conviction that the word speaks of this America that we live in and no other place on earth. This is Babylon the great without a doubt. We have in fact intoxicated the earth with our evils. We are the beast that the whole earth wander after emulate . its sad but its true. no other country on earth commands the power and authority that we command, Vatican and England are jokes compare to the stature, riches, and evils that sadly we have succumb to.

The seven heads or mountains ARE the same seven congregations which are addressed in Revelation Chapter 2 and 3. The ten kings who have not yet received their kingdom are ten of the sons of Jacob mentioned in Genesis Chapter 49. They are not pagan kings! Babylon the Great is the last iteration of Jesus Christ 's Kingdom. It is Christianity! Nebuchadnezzar had to learn a hard lesson that it was God who set him up as king of Babylon the Great. The last king that God set up was Jesus Christ! Christianity has been ruined. Now read Daniel Chapter 2:44 and understand what it really means!