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  • Roman - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Ruth,

    Does Joel Richardson know that spiritually the land has been moved, and that Russia fits every description of the king of the north, Esau, and the beast? Mystery Babylon has moved as well, it's not in the ME; it is America. Russia and America will fight again, just like they did during the cold war, like Korea and Vietnam.

    What does Turkey have on Russia, who's making its beast move in Ukraine, threatening to nuke any US affiliated detractors? Putin has threatened Israel about the Golan Heights, and soon he will invade Israel and take then captive. Joel 3:1

    Richardson is wrong, and pushing that narrative in the end-times is a disservice. A false prophet steers followers away from the evolved truth.
  • Ruth - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    My understanding is it is Turkey. Frontier Alliance (FAI) works in the Mideast. They have excellent teaching on end times free on their app. Joel Richardson says the bear of the north is Turkey.
  • Roman on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Who is the beast?

    Revelation 13:1 Russia

    Revelation 13:11 China
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Possibly the "North" "Kingdoms" mentioned in Jeremiah, Isaiah, however that could have been Germany Jeremiah 23:8,

    Some say Gog, Magog.

    It may be symbolic of "Bear" Revelation 13:2,

    * Matthew 24:6,
  • Cecil - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Revelation 13:

    When you ask people who the false prophet is, more so than not they'll tell you it's the pope, and why not, he's the perfect person for the job, right? The average person cannot be expected to know these things but there are those that do see from the word given. Obadiah tells that antichrist's confederacy in-fights, and the false prophet placed a burdensome wound (nuclear) on anti-Christ's kingdom.

    I asked the Lord to give me discernment concerning the false prophet. The answer required years of waiting and then the logic came to me. The false prophet is none other than China. Russia = iron, China = clay, and they will fight when America and Israel are gone. Russia and China have recently forged an unprecedented alliance, preparing their collective beast army for a year a month a day and an hour for the day of the Lord strike that punishes the world, making the proud low. Use your own discretion.
  • Ronald Whittemore - 4 years ago
    Take heed that no man deceive you.

    The deception has been laid, what will we be spared? There is a difference between God's wrath, org meaning; anger, wrath, passion; punishment, vengeance. and tribulation thlipsis meaning; persecution, affliction, distress. The beast will be given time to inflict tribulation on the saints in the world and overcome them, Revelation 13:5-7, as God gave Satan, Job 1:12 Job 2:6. Satan's last shot, because he knows his time is short, Revelation 12:12.

    The adversary, with this deception, has manipulated scripture to have many believing the great tribulation and the wrath of God to be the same thing and will be spared going through it. This started developing in the 1700s, and what a deception, a beautiful picture of glorious colors of truth, masterfully painted on a canvas of lies. How many will be deceived by the miracles that will be done by the false prophet, Revelation 13:13-15, and fall away? Or those facing death, and who are overcome by the fear of death, take the mark.

    A similar picture of what is to come has happened in the past. Decius/Decian persecution in 250 AD, a decree that Christians had to prove their loyalty to paganism and the emperor, ordered that sacrifices to idols be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate. It was a signed and witnessed certificate issued. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the emperor.

    A great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies thinking they could still be a Christian in secret. Others went into hiding. The Decian persecution was the severest on Christians at that time and the loss suffered by the apostasy (falling away). What is coming will be more severe and worldwide.

    Did God spare them? If not, should we be? Have we exalted ourselves more worthy? Are you ready, praying that our faith shall not fail, even if facing death?

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hey Dennis,

    Satan is permitted, for a time, to rule over the majority in this world as we see when he tempted Jesus, Luke 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

    We see again Satan who deceived the whole world when he is cast down to earth permanently, Revelation 12:7-9. He then gives his power, his seat, and authority to the beast over the world, Revelation 13:2. But Satan is limited in accordance with God's will and he dwells in darkness and that is the boundary of his territory. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    That is why we must do as in Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

    If we walk in the Spirit and the true light is in us, darkness will have nothing to do with us, we have victory in Christ. The time is coming when Satan is cast down and gives his authority to the beast, those of us who are still living will see the darkest time and go through it, Jesus does not return until after the tribulations of those days, Matthew 24:29-31 Mark 13:24-27.

    So, walk in the light and not in the manners of the world where there is darkness.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Littleone - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Reality is the devil has ppl blind ded b. They don't study to show their selves approved. We plant God gives the Increase. Studying >s much weariness to the flesh with all the newer bibles out they take a side scripture and make it mean somethin g else by changing the words God warns us what happens to those in revelations 22 anyway so many lies out their.
  • Liitleone - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    This is the truth
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi John.

    Revelation 13:16. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    The Church will be taken out of the world.

    No one by the Holyspirit would take the mark of the beast.

    This don't take an extensive study of the word of God, It's written plainly. We hear to often people try to make the vaccine the mark of the beast.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Hi Wilma.

    I believe you are looking for Revelation 12:14. Those eagle wings is seen here in Exodus 19:4. and Isaiah 40:31.

    The fact that they're carried on eagles wings there is no need for protection from any nation. Their protection always came from the Lord and always will. Psalms 121:4-5.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Hi Wilma Smith,

    There is in Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

    Some take prophecy and symbols like animals and put things together to fit theories about end times. Some put Great Britain and the United States. The Lion represents Great Britain, and the Eagle wings represent the United States of America. Bear means Russia, the leopard means Germany, the chief battle tank of Germany is the leopard tank (Panzer), and more.

    Like the wings in Revelation 12:14, you can see in Exodus 19:4, this may give a better understanding of the term used. This could not be referring to either America or airlift by the United States. It has a meaning of caring for the young (children), like what Jesus said in Matthew 23:37.

    There are seven-year periods for different things in the bible like seven-year Sabbath, seven years of plenty and then seven years of drought Joseph was given and more, but the seven years that have been placed at the end times is a theory, not in scripture. It is taken from Daniel 9:27 which in my understanding has been fulfilled. You will find only 3.5 years, 42 months, and 1260 days.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Jeremiah 48:35-47, Jeremiah 49, Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10, Ezekiel 17, Revelation 4, Revelation 12,

    Deuteronomy 28:49, Deuteronomy 32:11, Daniel 7, Hosea 8:1, Habakkuk 1,

    In the Apocrypha

    2 Esdras 11, 12, I didn't find what was discussed in what I read.

    Hopefully these are helpful.

    You can search more scripture relating to Lion & Eagle in search tab on KJV Bible page.
  • Wilma Smith on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    I heard a pastor on TV read from I thought the book of revelations but I want to know where to find what he read I can't seem to find it but he read That the country with wings of an eagle will be pulled out of the mouth of the lion and I guess we are supposed to become Israel's protector for the seven years please tell me where to find that thank you
  • Glenn - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Yes , you can , an yes grape juice is fine , an any unleavened cracker ,. An you can take it whenever you see need to ,.. although remember it was taken 3 times a year , passova, Pentecost an feast of tabernacles,.. you just don't wanna make it a ritual,..

    peace
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Well said Adam.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    My opinion is that its acceptable and that you are being obedient even if you don't have the privilege of being in the presence of other believers. It's certainly better to take in remembrance in solitude than to not take it at all. I also believe praying, worship, and other actions are the similar, where you can certainly do this when alone. I believe the Christian life is 24/7 and not just when someone enters a random building they call a church or is within a certain physical proximity to a believer.

    While Jesus was with his disciples at the time of communion, He didn't state any requirements about people being present. 1 Corinthians 11:28 indicates that an individual reflection is needed. It doesn't suggest a group reflection was required. Jesus sometimes fled to be by himself to pray. Matthew 6:3 says to help people in secret, not boasting, or virtue signaling how good you are, as this states. Apparently this must be balanced with letting your light shine as Matthew 5:16 says and maybe the heart and motive plays a role.

    Also, people can feel community at home alone, or sometimes feel even more alone in the presence of others. What I mean is the perception of community does not always reflect a physical circumstance. For example, we are on a website with other believers right now, but maybe most people are alone in a room. Does that mean it doesn't count as community? Some are disabled and can't get to a physical church, but watch services online, does that mean they're not in community? Some may travel long distances to visit a large church, but feel lost in the crowd and may not talk to anyone the entire time, does that mean the person was in community of believers? Things to consider.
  • Donna - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    1 Corinthians 11:24-31

    Luke 22:19

    My humble understanding of the scriptures:-).

    I think it's about remembering what Jesus did on the cross. How He suffered and was bruised and bled. That must never be forgotten. No no no. On the contrary Jesus wants us to remember His Sacrifice for us often. He says take communion often in remembrance of Him. I don't know of any scripture that says you can't do that alone. I have been doing it alone. So if anybody knows of any scripture that says you can't do that alone please share it.

    I cry when I take communion. When I remember what Jesus did and what he went through and the heaviness of the sin that He carried to the cross on behalf of every soul that lives or ever has lived or will live. I couldn't even stand under the weight of my own sin. I think it's about remembering. Until He comes.

    Also, I believe that you should not take the communion unworthily;

    1Corinthians 11:27-31

    in doing so the Bible says you will bring sickness and death to yourself. So I always pray and ask the Lord to forgive any sin in my life, examining my own heart, before I take the communion and I don't take it carelessly or lightly. But that's just me.

    I haven't heard anybody holding communion at church teach on this part of preparing yourself for the communion so that you may not bring sickness and death unto yourself .

    But once again that's my interpretation of the Scriptures. Please don't take my word for it read the Scriptures and pray and ask God for understanding.

    :-)Blessings
  • Markcus - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Grape juice is acceptable. Communion should be at the least 2 believers, never alone. It's meant to be taken among brethren. Read 1 Corinthians 11
  • Urs on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Can you take communion at home alone and is grape juice acceptable.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Hello Paul,

    I will try to answer your question 1st "gulf" has been referred to The Gulf of Mexico, & Persian Gulf. Thousand years.

    I believe your asking about direct correlation of the area of Persian Gulf & end times prophecy. I will do my best to answer you with scriptures:

    2 Peter 3:6-9, Revelations 20:1-15,
  • Paul Fukusdhima on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    What happens to all the souls across the "Gulf" during the Millennium?
  • Douglas T Graham on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    What is the significance of the number: 666?

    Where does it originate?
  • Cowboy - In Reply on Revelation 14 - 4 years ago
    Lise

    [Why does people believe that you have to take the chip in your hand to be the mark of the beast' as opposed the vaccine? I believe many of my christian friends have been decieved, but on the other hand it seems many christians believes the mark of the beast will happen once we know who the Antichrist is and we as christians we will not see this happening as we will be rapture before this.] The word of God reads in Revelation 13: 16 to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" This vaccine has a chip in it that I believe will flow through your body until it reaches a small blood vein where the chip will be stuck the smallest blood vein in the body is in the right hand and the forehead.

    Many people are being deceived about the vaccine even after they get the vaccine they can still get the virus. Biden is making camps for the people that refuse to take the vaccine. I believe the antichrist will appear after the beast which is a computer "this is a one world order". The church will see some of the one world order before it is taken out of this world. This is just the beginning of the beast more is yet to come

    God Bless

    Stay prayed up and ready to go up

    Cowboy
  • OS on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    What are the original Greek words used for "Left hand" and "Forehead" ?
  • Frank - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Rick,

    I appreciate your candid honesty; my associates would've answered that question in defense of America, with glowing patriotic stories of our might. Some answer falsely because of reprisals.

    America, the counterfeiter, tried to act the beast in Daniel 7:20, when they took three of their own towers on 9/11. "His look" was more stout above his 10 kingdoms is Russia, the beast, king of the north, Esau, having 11 time zones of stout. 1991's USSR deadly wound that became the mighty Russian Federation, Revelation 13:3

    So, after the 9-11 attacks, General Wesley Clark announced this to the world: Global Warfare:"We're going to take out seven countries in five years: Iraq Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and Iran."

    So after three NY towers were taken, the US announced it would topple seven countries (7 + 3 towers = 10) in five years, Revelation 9:10. This action occurs all within the fifth trumpet. The US is diabolical and uses the occult to make their every political move, they look in the liver, Ezekiel 21:21

    Watch for the sixth seal to start peeling off when America attacks Iran's nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14). Then we'll be on short time for what God's chosen northern army, Joel 2:11, has in its advanced arsenal. 13 months, 25 hours of coordination and preparation for our visitation.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Revelations 19:20, Revelations 17:13, seems to be a collaboration to make 'the mark' Revelation 17:3, Revelations 17:9-12, Revelations 13:18 both say ''be wise''. Revelations 13:16-17,
  • Rick - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    Hi Joyce It you are a christian I wouldn't think about this area to much because we will not be around, this occurs

    after the Church the body of Christ is resurrected or gathered together. It will be set up by Satan and it will be a system

    that if you don't worship basically you'll be toast. There are things transpiring now that are building up to that

    happening, but as long as the church is here it cannot rise to full fruition. This is my understanding.
  • Joyce kluczynski on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    what is the mark of the beast and where does he get it
  • GiGi - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 4 years ago
    That is my prayer, that USA continues to be a light for Christ and even more so.


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