Yes I do ! I am a regular Bible reader ! Why is it that even though God the Father's name Jehovah is in the Bible in Psalms 83:18, Exodus 6:3 & Isaiah 12:2 in the King James translation & many other ones, no one is addressing him by name in prayers or talking about him ? The Lord's prayer says let your name be made known ! So his son was giving us a model prayer in what we should pray for , he was asking for his Father's name to made known. They are using only his title of LORD or addressing his son Jesus in prayer. Shouldn't we pray only to Our Heavenly Father by name and only to him but thru his son Christ Jesus. I see many people are saying GOD but there are many God's. How would it make you feel if everyone addressed you as Man or Woman instead of your personal name, would that not be disrespectful ! Jesus is Jehovah's only begotten son which means he created Jesus by himself but every thing else was created by his father with his son's help. I mean no disrespect. Can someone explain to me why his personal name is not being used. I have done research and the name Jehovah is in the original Greek & Hebrew scriptures I think it is around 7016 times. So if it's mentioned that many times shouldn't we be using it then ? Can someone explain why we don't call him by his name ? Like I said I don't mean any disrespect, I just have question's about it.
None of the authors of the New Testament ever used any of those Hebrew names for God. They just called Him ""Lord" (in grk Kyrios, Master). I believe Matthew, Luke, Mark, John, Paul, Peter, Jude and James knew exactly what they were doing and what whas right to call God. So don't let yourself be confused by people who try to take advantage of maybe not so good knowledge of yours of the Bible to promote their beliefs. On top of that the name of God in New testament is "Father", just that and only that.
1 Corinthians 1:1-2, "1Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:"
In verse 2 pay attention please to that "call upon the name of Jesus Christ". This is the name the ancient church called upon. It is the only name that matters and through that name (Jesus means Saviour in Hebrew, which means to call upon His sacrifice) people are saved. Nothing else.
Hello David. It seems those of the Watchtower Society have been ministering to you since the loss of your wife & you have likely also embraced their beliefs & practises. I would share in Derek's warning concerning those beliefs, many of which are in variance to Biblical Christianity & correct understanding of God's Word & Jesus His Son.
But to your question about Psalm 83:18. And again I assume that your question is about the use of 'Jehovah' in the KJB, a Name that is more commonly used in the NWT. Actually, the answer lies with the translators of the KJB, back in AD 1611, appointed by the then King James I in AD 1604. As we check on the instances where the Name Jehovah appears in the KJB (i.e. Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, and Isaiah 26:4), it seems that the translators who were appointed to work on those Books, preferred to use 'Jehovah' in those verses for their own reasons.
When we look at the Isaiah 12:2 & Isaiah 26:4 references (be-yah Yahweh), it is likely the translators wanted to emphasize the absolute greatness of God. As one expositor has commented, "The union of these two forms (of Yahweh) seems designed to express, in the highest sense possible, the majesty, glory, and holiness of God; to excite the highest possible reverence where language fails of completely conveying the idea." Otherwise, where the Glorious & Personal Name of Yahweh is given in the KJB, translators have used LORD (in caps) instead.
I am not a great scholar of all of the Bible being of a humble disposition - however I have been taught by 2 good teachers of the Bible about the meaning of this verse and all the other verses after I had counselling and support through a bereavement of my wife.
The Jehovah's Witness explained the Bible was written over 1600 years, comprising 66 books. THE ORIGINAL SOURCE - the language spoken in those times was Hebrew (old Testament) and Greek (new Testament). The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters, and the 4 used for God or Lord are the 4 symbols "####" In fact, #### is written some 7000 times in The Bible.
Your local Jehovah's Witness representative in your area can fully explain this information.
They will be able to illustrate this point.
Background :-
Some 3 years ago I started under the instruction of my local Jehovah's Witness tutors who have been teachers for over 40 years. This is entirely voluntary.
However my tuition has taught me about the history of The Bible, as its provenance is crucial for interpretation. Here we use the King James Bible V - but there are many others in use throughout the world.
Jehavah's Witness use the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION - OF THE - HOLY SCRIPTURES
Yes,certainly,as you said,GOD HIMSELF manifested himself to the Hebrews through the OT;which was written by the twenty-four elders,starting with Moses,understand?By the way,JESUS said GOD is Spirit- John 4:24-,what is the name of the invisible Spirit of GOD?Well,GOD had said in the beginning- Genesis 1:26(the beginning is JESUS,who is the LITERAL IMAGE of GOD,He is GOD)-, yes, GOD had said:"Let us make man in OUR image,after OUR likeness", then, both are One, and as we can see, since ancient times, since Genesis, GOD revealed He would be made flesh.
By the prophet Isaiah,who is one of the 24 elders,GOD again revealed He would be made flesh, and around 2000 years ago He LITERALLY fulfilled His promise- John 1:14-and what is the NAME that GOD chose for He Himself? The NAME that GOD chose for He Himself was/is JESUS - JOSHUA-. Luke 1:26-the angel GABRIEL was sent FROM GOD(the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing) unto a city of Galilee,named Nazareth,and said to Mary:behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his NAME JESUS. He shall be great, and called the Son of the Highest: the Lord GOD(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing) shall give unto Him the throne of His father David.
Remember: The Jews said to JESUS: John 8:41-we have one Father, even God. And JESUS said to the Devil, father of the Jews-Yahweh:It is written,Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the MOUTH OF GOD-Mat.4:4.
Psalms 110:1combined with Hebrews 1:8(plus Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1) -
GOD said to the Lord JESUS:Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy Kingdom.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD=JEHOVAH; ->JEHOVAH is another esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist nickname of the father of the Jews.
Luke 16:5 lord=a King or one of authority,yes, see John 18:37.
Thanks you for explaining the difference and use of the name and by whom, Now I know the difference. I don't think Bible hub will burn as I was only translating Old Testament, and the Old Testament was given in Hebrew and was given to them as there laws in Hebrew.
In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel
KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus
KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority
I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.
Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:" Philippians 2:9 KJV
"above every name". Even above Jehovah?
"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Psalms 83:18 KJV
Jehovah's name was the highest name before.
I'm posting this for input not as a trivia question.
It seems to say that the name of Jesus after His sacrifice was placed above the name of Jehovah, do you believe this and if so should this reality affect our Christian walk?
The Elect are ALL those whom God chose from before the foundation of the world to save and for whose sins Christ has paid in full; not only those from National Israel.
I do not understand how anyone can read the entire Bible and conclude that the Elect are only those of National Israel.
If you do a word study in the Bible, regarding the fig tree, you will find that the fig tree is a figure of national Israel.
In Matthew 24 the fig tree being in leaf is a reference to the nation of Israel, once again, becoming a sovereign nation among the nations of the world. But notice it is the fig tree in "leaf". Not the fig tree bearing "fruit". And since 1948 until the end of the church age, which I believe can be shown to be 1988, the nation of Israel is bearing no fruit. They do not recognize Christ as their Messiah. And never will.
Matthew 24 is all about the Great tribulation. Which is the time in which I believe we are living. And during this time, neither not the nation of Israel, nor the churches are bringing the true gospel. In fact, God's judgment is upon both national Israel, and the churches.
However, God is still saving his elect as the gospel goes forth from individual believers or ministries not associated with a church. And this will continue until Christ returns at the time of the resurrection and the rapture, and the beginning of the day of judgment.
I understand that this is a difficult pill to swallow for those that are in the churches today. But God's commandment in these days is to flee the churches, because the abomination of desolation is standing in what was the holy place, that is the churches.
Matthew 24, The fig tree in leaf: is speaking of the NEW ISRAEL, the born again, Christ is the TREE, we are the leaves, NOT national Israel.
PROPHECY:
Isaiah 6:13 But ye in it (the land) shall be a TENTH (the tithe to God, the FIRSTBORNE of the flock), and it (the Priest and Judges of the earth) SHALL RETURN, and shall be eaten; as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is IN THEM (Christ IN YOU), when they cast their leaves: so the HOLY SEED (the word of God, Christ IN YOU) shall be the substance thereof.
Revelation 22:2 And in the midst of the street of it (new Jerusalem), and on either side of the river (of LIFE: Christ), was there the tree of LIFE (Christ), which bear twelve manner of fruit (new Israel), and yielded her fruit every month (continual rebirth into new Israel): and the LEAVES were for the HEALING OF THE NATIONS.
Isaiah 59:21 And this is my covenant with them (the firstborne), saith the Lord, MY SPIRIT (the SEED) that is poured out on THEE (Christ, the firstborne SEED, of many SEED), and my words which I PUT in your mouth, shall not depart out of your mouth, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED, or out of the mouth of THY SEED'S SEED, from henceforth and evermore.
The fruit of the TREE (CHRIST) is the children of Christ; and are HIS IMAGE, the NEW Israel.
Also, the Bible is not concerned with political nations of our day, with the possible exception of National Israel which did become a nation again in 1948 and is the "fig tree in leaf" of Matt 24. God uses various nations spoken of in the Bible as types and figures of the kingdom of God, the kingdom of Satan, the Churches and Congregations, and also True Believers, and those that are not true believers, depending on the context.
Again, God is speaking in parables using specific words and phrases to teach some aspect of the Gospel. Exe 38 is an exceptionally difficult passage and we need to compare scripture with scripture, praying to God for understanding. Also recognizing that there are truths that God is only reveling in our day that have been in the Bible all along but have been sealed up until we approach the end. (read Daniel). We should not be using political activity of our day as a basis to interpret scripture.
I do not profess to fully understand Eze 38. But I'm quite certain that it is not talking about any political nations of our day; it is likely addressing some aspect of God's salvation and judgement plan.
All of Daniel; as will as all other books, is a Prophecy of CHRIST, none of Daniel or other books is a prophecy of a single anti-christ.
Daniel 8:25 is speaking of Christ.
Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (man's kingdom), when the transgressors are come to full, a king (Christ) of fierce countenance, and UNDERSTANDING DARK SENTENCES, shall stand up.
Psalms 778:2 I (Christ) will open my mouth in a parable: I (Christ) will utter DARK SAYINGS of old:
Psalms 49:4 I (Christ) will incline my ear to a parable: I (Christ) will open my DARK SAYINGS upon the harp (a symbol of man).
Proverbs 1:6 To UNDERSTAND a proverb, and the INTERPRETATION; the words of the wise (God's words); and their DARK SAYINGS.
We must remember that Christ spoke in parables and without a parable spoke He not. And Christ is the WORD of God. Much of the language in the Bible is parabolic language teaching some spiritual truth. That includes language describing actual historical events as well as future prophecies. I think that is the case here.
Psalm 83 is referred to by some as a prophetic war among 10 nations that may occur at the very start of the Tribulation. Careful analysis doesn't indicate any of the outer nations which are in the Ezekiel 38 war from Israel as a center. Technically; there is no mention of an offensive battle strategy either. We certainly can see the attitude of many of the nations who have attempted to wipe out Israel since its inception in 1948; specifically as verse 4 indicates removing them as a nation. This would also differentiate the economic incentives in Ezekiel 38 for the move which signifies a plunder; and also we note at that time Israel is said to have unwalled villages ( Ezekiel 38:11). Verse 12 is perhaps the clearest indication for these nations who have the Dome of the Rock as a focal point of contention to get ownership.
The names that are listed are surrounding areas; of which I will not elaborate on here. It does seem that the end of the Psalm shows that the Lord will be known after the event as is the same concept with the Ezekiel 38 destruction. Overall; the whole thing may be different campaigns in the whole scope of world war that leads to Armageddon. We need to keep in mind that there will be certain things which Antichrist uses to galvanize nations; and initially he will form alliances that will start to fight each other; and in the end of course will turn to fight against Christ himself; as well as turning on themselves. This is all of course in God's hands and he will accomplish His purposes.
The crafty counsel in verse 3 reminds us of Daniel 8:25 as to the policy of "craft" that the Antichrist uses; and indeed it is likely that these confederate of nations (v. 5) will be involved in that with both "dividing the land for gain" with economic incentives ( Daniel 11:39) as well as the involvement in the occult whith Antichrist practices ( Dan. 8:23) which could perhaps be one of the mystical forms of Islam or New Age religion.
Thanks for that brother Adam, and I agree that the pronunciations given are as close as possible to the actual vocalization of those words in Hebrew. I did read Dan's request for the "PROPER phonetic pronunciations", as the words would be spoken in Hebrew by a Hebrew speaker (maybe I misunderstood him & he just wanted to say the words correctly in English). Though, you're correct, an English speaker may not easily discern those names unless read simultaneously with the one reading them from the Bible.
Hello Chris, that is nice that you took the time to help him. I noticed the last one Jehovah ( yeh-ho-vaw-) which is different than how most people pronounce it in English. Upon checking a few websites and they appear to agree its pronounced Juh-ho-vah in English. It would probably be most recognizeable to an English speaking audience in English. Also, lot isn't pronounced lote in English.
If I understand correctly, this might be akin to speaking to US-born citizens but calling the country Estados Unidos which some may not understand and cause confusion. Someone can be technically correct in an unfamiliar language at the risk of not having the message understood by the audience which defeats the purpose of communicating.
Hi Dan. Referring to my Lexicon, I can offer the names & their pronunciations. However, I should add, that the congregation who might be more familiar with the names pronounced in a western-style manner, may think you odd speaking forth with the Hebrew 'sounds'. Hopefully, your reading of Psalm 83 is for the minister's address as it's certainly unsuitable to lead one to worship. The preacher might be impressed with your efforts. All the best.
Asaph = aw-sawf
Ishmaelites = yish-maw-ay-lee (or, to stick closer to the English: yish-maw-ay-lites)
Hagarenes = hag-ree (or, hag-reens, being closer to English)
Gebal = gheb-awl
Amalek = am-aw-lake
Philistines & Tyre (stay with these words as the Hebrew for them is vastly different)
Hi Dan , my KJV is fab because it has pronunciation symbols all the way through it and a table of these symbols for me to check , sadly I can't help you if your Bible doesn't also have them sad face , e.g. that symbol over the letter o makes it sound like the o in the word nor , or if that was over the letter a , the a sounds like the a in the word fare . My Bible is a Collins Comfort Text and I got it from a very well know shopping site and its second hand . Maybe you can find one , I hope so .
I don't think it is taken out of most Bibles. It's probably harder to find one without the word Jehovah. If you search the word and click on one of the verses and view the other translations you can clearly see that most use that word. God bless.
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
Isaiah 12:2
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Isaiah 26:4
Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:
In this context, it is a strong word. In KJV you have what is right. Some creeds have their own printing presses and can therefore make / raise / shorten as they wish. This will be confusing for those who read it.
My experience is KJV is the best. Sometimes i hear readings from other publishers and the words are unfortunately mixed so that even if i read in my KJV there is total confusion. My advice to you is to read a translation that you drop and stumble upon the words / settings and the like. Only KJV :)
Hope the answer can help you. For the Bible is meant to have a word that is understandable. Jehovah is also used by the Witnesses. I have no prior knowledge there. But maybe someone else has? Know that they do not believe in the trinity between God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
Stay safe in Jesus name, love u in Christ. John 7:10_24
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
God's enemies have risen up in America with one voice. The barbarian supporters of murder by abortion, sexual perversion by homosexual rights, theft by oppressive taxation, and other ungodly wickedness. There is no fear of God before their eyes. They mock God and persecute His children as if they will never face God to answer for their sins.
I can offer my opinion. Jehovah is God's name. Psalms 83:18. So, that's unfortunate that you have negative connotations with His name. His name was first by a wide margin and only recently the cult JW used His name. But just because a cult uses His name doesn't mean His name is bad. That would be sad. Lots of deceptive false teachers like to use manipulative names to make what their doing sound less bad and I don't think we should give into it. I like God's name and I wont let some small group of false teachers to prevent me using God's proper name. That is my opinion. God bless.
I just went to a funeral. The preacher said I'm telling you that right now Hazel is in heaven with Jesus. On and on with the lies. Then at the grave, the same preacher, told the same people that Hazel was asleep waiting for a resurrection to heaven. Apparently people are told a lot of lies. I believe that there is one true God and creator. Psalms 83:18
I believe the Bible is his word. So I believe in what God says not man. God said he chose only 144,000 to reigne in heaven as kings and priest over the earth. Rev After Armageddon and all the wicked has been destroyed off the earth God's kingdom Gov will begin its rule over earth. The resurrection will begin for the righteous and unrighteous. The unrighteous a resurrection of judgment on how they live during this time.
Jesus paid for their sins. For 1,000 yrs Christ and his anointed bros from earth will bring man to perfection. Any who do not wish to be obedient will go to a second death. Destroyed as if by fire. No more hope for these. At the end of Christ 1,000 yr reigne Satan will be loosed from the abyss to test perfect mankind. All those who remain obedient will be given everlasting life. They can partake from the trees of life. The rest fire will come fown and consume them and all the demons will be destroyed. Now God's will is done on earth. Jesus will hand the kingdom over to his father and God Jehovah/Yahweh will be all things to everyone.
None of the authors of the New Testament ever used any of those Hebrew names for God. They just called Him ""Lord" (in grk Kyrios, Master). I believe Matthew, Luke, Mark, John, Paul, Peter, Jude and James knew exactly what they were doing and what whas right to call God. So don't let yourself be confused by people who try to take advantage of maybe not so good knowledge of yours of the Bible to promote their beliefs. On top of that the name of God in New testament is "Father", just that and only that.
1 Corinthians 1:1-2, "1Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:"
In verse 2 pay attention please to that "call upon the name of Jesus Christ". This is the name the ancient church called upon. It is the only name that matters and through that name (Jesus means Saviour in Hebrew, which means to call upon His sacrifice) people are saved. Nothing else.
But to your question about Psalm 83:18. And again I assume that your question is about the use of 'Jehovah' in the KJB, a Name that is more commonly used in the NWT. Actually, the answer lies with the translators of the KJB, back in AD 1611, appointed by the then King James I in AD 1604. As we check on the instances where the Name Jehovah appears in the KJB (i.e. Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, and Isaiah 26:4), it seems that the translators who were appointed to work on those Books, preferred to use 'Jehovah' in those verses for their own reasons.
When we look at the Isaiah 12:2 & Isaiah 26:4 references (be-yah Yahweh), it is likely the translators wanted to emphasize the absolute greatness of God. As one expositor has commented, "The union of these two forms (of Yahweh) seems designed to express, in the highest sense possible, the majesty, glory, and holiness of God; to excite the highest possible reverence where language fails of completely conveying the idea." Otherwise, where the Glorious & Personal Name of Yahweh is given in the KJB, translators have used LORD (in caps) instead.
Why is this?
I am going to come straight to the point
I am not a great scholar of all of the Bible being of a humble disposition - however I have been taught by 2 good teachers of the Bible about the meaning of this verse and all the other verses after I had counselling and support through a bereavement of my wife.
The Jehovah's Witness explained the Bible was written over 1600 years, comprising 66 books. THE ORIGINAL SOURCE - the language spoken in those times was Hebrew (old Testament) and Greek (new Testament). The Hebrew alphabet has 22 letters, and the 4 used for God or Lord are the 4 symbols "####" In fact, #### is written some 7000 times in The Bible.
Your local Jehovah's Witness representative in your area can fully explain this information.
They will be able to illustrate this point.
Background :-
Some 3 years ago I started under the instruction of my local Jehovah's Witness tutors who have been teachers for over 40 years. This is entirely voluntary.
However my tuition has taught me about the history of The Bible, as its provenance is crucial for interpretation. Here we use the King James Bible V - but there are many others in use throughout the world.
Jehavah's Witness use the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION - OF THE - HOLY SCRIPTURES
Yes,certainly,as you said,GOD HIMSELF manifested himself to the Hebrews through the OT;which was written by the twenty-four elders,starting with Moses,understand?By the way,JESUS said GOD is Spirit- John 4:24-,what is the name of the invisible Spirit of GOD?Well,GOD had said in the beginning- Genesis 1:26(the beginning is JESUS,who is the LITERAL IMAGE of GOD,He is GOD)-, yes, GOD had said:"Let us make man in OUR image,after OUR likeness", then, both are One, and as we can see, since ancient times, since Genesis, GOD revealed He would be made flesh.
By the prophet Isaiah,who is one of the 24 elders,GOD again revealed He would be made flesh, and around 2000 years ago He LITERALLY fulfilled His promise- John 1:14-and what is the NAME that GOD chose for He Himself? The NAME that GOD chose for He Himself was/is JESUS - JOSHUA-. Luke 1:26-the angel GABRIEL was sent FROM GOD(the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing) unto a city of Galilee,named Nazareth,and said to Mary:behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his NAME JESUS. He shall be great, and called the Son of the Highest: the Lord GOD(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing) shall give unto Him the throne of His father David.
Remember: The Jews said to JESUS: John 8:41-we have one Father, even God. And JESUS said to the Devil, father of the Jews-Yahweh:It is written,Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the MOUTH OF GOD-Mat.4:4.
Psalms 110:1combined with Hebrews 1:8(plus Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1) -
GOD said to the Lord JESUS:Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy Kingdom.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD=JEHOVAH; ->JEHOVAH is another esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist nickname of the father of the Jews.
Luke 16:5 lord=a King or one of authority,yes, see John 18:37.
In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel
KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus
KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority
I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.
Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:" Philippians 2:9 KJV
"above every name". Even above Jehovah?
"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Psalms 83:18 KJV
Jehovah's name was the highest name before.
I'm posting this for input not as a trivia question.
It seems to say that the name of Jesus after His sacrifice was placed above the name of Jehovah, do you believe this and if so should this reality affect our Christian walk?
Col. 3:11-12
"Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bon nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercy, kindness, humbleness of mid, meekness, longsuffering;"
This verse does make it plain who are the elect of God-those who are in Christ by faith, whether OT, NT, Jew or Gentle.
I do not understand how anyone can read the entire Bible and conclude that the Elect are only those of National Israel.
If you do a word study in the Bible, regarding the fig tree, you will find that the fig tree is a figure of national Israel.
In Matthew 24 the fig tree being in leaf is a reference to the nation of Israel, once again, becoming a sovereign nation among the nations of the world. But notice it is the fig tree in "leaf". Not the fig tree bearing "fruit". And since 1948 until the end of the church age, which I believe can be shown to be 1988, the nation of Israel is bearing no fruit. They do not recognize Christ as their Messiah. And never will.
Matthew 24 is all about the Great tribulation. Which is the time in which I believe we are living. And during this time, neither not the nation of Israel, nor the churches are bringing the true gospel. In fact, God's judgment is upon both national Israel, and the churches.
However, God is still saving his elect as the gospel goes forth from individual believers or ministries not associated with a church. And this will continue until Christ returns at the time of the resurrection and the rapture, and the beginning of the day of judgment.
I understand that this is a difficult pill to swallow for those that are in the churches today. But God's commandment in these days is to flee the churches, because the abomination of desolation is standing in what was the holy place, that is the churches.
Matthew 24, The fig tree in leaf: is speaking of the NEW ISRAEL, the born again, Christ is the TREE, we are the leaves, NOT national Israel.
PROPHECY:
Isaiah 6:13 But ye in it (the land) shall be a TENTH (the tithe to God, the FIRSTBORNE of the flock), and it (the Priest and Judges of the earth) SHALL RETURN, and shall be eaten; as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is IN THEM (Christ IN YOU), when they cast their leaves: so the HOLY SEED (the word of God, Christ IN YOU) shall be the substance thereof.
Revelation 22:2 And in the midst of the street of it (new Jerusalem), and on either side of the river (of LIFE: Christ), was there the tree of LIFE (Christ), which bear twelve manner of fruit (new Israel), and yielded her fruit every month (continual rebirth into new Israel): and the LEAVES were for the HEALING OF THE NATIONS.
Isaiah 59:21 And this is my covenant with them (the firstborne), saith the Lord, MY SPIRIT (the SEED) that is poured out on THEE (Christ, the firstborne SEED, of many SEED), and my words which I PUT in your mouth, shall not depart out of your mouth, nor out of the mouth of THY SEED, or out of the mouth of THY SEED'S SEED, from henceforth and evermore.
The fruit of the TREE (CHRIST) is the children of Christ; and are HIS IMAGE, the NEW Israel.
God Bless YOU!
Again, God is speaking in parables using specific words and phrases to teach some aspect of the Gospel. Exe 38 is an exceptionally difficult passage and we need to compare scripture with scripture, praying to God for understanding. Also recognizing that there are truths that God is only reveling in our day that have been in the Bible all along but have been sealed up until we approach the end. (read Daniel). We should not be using political activity of our day as a basis to interpret scripture.
I do not profess to fully understand Eze 38. But I'm quite certain that it is not talking about any political nations of our day; it is likely addressing some aspect of God's salvation and judgement plan.
All of Daniel; as will as all other books, is a Prophecy of CHRIST, none of Daniel or other books is a prophecy of a single anti-christ.
Daniel 8:25 is speaking of Christ.
Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom (man's kingdom), when the transgressors are come to full, a king (Christ) of fierce countenance, and UNDERSTANDING DARK SENTENCES, shall stand up.
Psalms 778:2 I (Christ) will open my mouth in a parable: I (Christ) will utter DARK SAYINGS of old:
Psalms 49:4 I (Christ) will incline my ear to a parable: I (Christ) will open my DARK SAYINGS upon the harp (a symbol of man).
Proverbs 1:6 To UNDERSTAND a proverb, and the INTERPRETATION; the words of the wise (God's words); and their DARK SAYINGS.
God Bless YOU!
Psalm 83 is referred to by some as a prophetic war among 10 nations that may occur at the very start of the Tribulation. Careful analysis doesn't indicate any of the outer nations which are in the Ezekiel 38 war from Israel as a center. Technically; there is no mention of an offensive battle strategy either. We certainly can see the attitude of many of the nations who have attempted to wipe out Israel since its inception in 1948; specifically as verse 4 indicates removing them as a nation. This would also differentiate the economic incentives in Ezekiel 38 for the move which signifies a plunder; and also we note at that time Israel is said to have unwalled villages ( Ezekiel 38:11). Verse 12 is perhaps the clearest indication for these nations who have the Dome of the Rock as a focal point of contention to get ownership.
The names that are listed are surrounding areas; of which I will not elaborate on here. It does seem that the end of the Psalm shows that the Lord will be known after the event as is the same concept with the Ezekiel 38 destruction. Overall; the whole thing may be different campaigns in the whole scope of world war that leads to Armageddon. We need to keep in mind that there will be certain things which Antichrist uses to galvanize nations; and initially he will form alliances that will start to fight each other; and in the end of course will turn to fight against Christ himself; as well as turning on themselves. This is all of course in God's hands and he will accomplish His purposes.
The crafty counsel in verse 3 reminds us of Daniel 8:25 as to the policy of "craft" that the Antichrist uses; and indeed it is likely that these confederate of nations (v. 5) will be involved in that with both "dividing the land for gain" with economic incentives ( Daniel 11:39) as well as the involvement in the occult whith Antichrist practices ( Dan. 8:23) which could perhaps be one of the mystical forms of Islam or New Age religion.
If I understand correctly, this might be akin to speaking to US-born citizens but calling the country Estados Unidos which some may not understand and cause confusion. Someone can be technically correct in an unfamiliar language at the risk of not having the message understood by the audience which defeats the purpose of communicating.
Asaph = aw-sawf
Ishmaelites = yish-maw-ay-lee (or, to stick closer to the English: yish-maw-ay-lites)
Hagarenes = hag-ree (or, hag-reens, being closer to English)
Gebal = gheb-awl
Amalek = am-aw-lake
Philistines & Tyre (stay with these words as the Hebrew for them is vastly different)
Assur = ash-shoor
Lot = lote
Sisera = see-ser-aw
Jabin = yaw-been
Oreb = o-rabe
Zeeb = zeh-abe
Zebah = zeh'-bakh
Zalmunna = tsal-moon-naw
Jehovah = yeh-ho-vaw
Psalm 83 in church this Sunday.
Can you give me proper phonetic pronunciation of the Biblical names of persons contained
therein?
Thank you.
Dan
Psalms 83:18
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
Isaiah 12:2
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Exodus 6:3
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Isaiah 26:4
Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:
In this context, it is a strong word. In KJV you have what is right. Some creeds have their own printing presses and can therefore make / raise / shorten as they wish. This will be confusing for those who read it.
My experience is KJV is the best. Sometimes i hear readings from other publishers and the words are unfortunately mixed so that even if i read in my KJV there is total confusion. My advice to you is to read a translation that you drop and stumble upon the words / settings and the like. Only KJV :)
Hope the answer can help you. For the Bible is meant to have a word that is understandable. Jehovah is also used by the Witnesses. I have no prior knowledge there. But maybe someone else has? Know that they do not believe in the trinity between God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
Stay safe in Jesus name, love u in Christ. John 7:10_24
Hover over this verse for the answer:
Psalms 83:18
God bless.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
God's enemies have risen up in America with one voice. The barbarian supporters of murder by abortion, sexual perversion by homosexual rights, theft by oppressive taxation, and other ungodly wickedness. There is no fear of God before their eyes. They mock God and persecute His children as if they will never face God to answer for their sins.
I can offer my opinion. Jehovah is God's name. Psalms 83:18. So, that's unfortunate that you have negative connotations with His name. His name was first by a wide margin and only recently the cult JW used His name. But just because a cult uses His name doesn't mean His name is bad. That would be sad. Lots of deceptive false teachers like to use manipulative names to make what their doing sound less bad and I don't think we should give into it. I like God's name and I wont let some small group of false teachers to prevent me using God's proper name. That is my opinion. God bless.
I believe the Bible is his word. So I believe in what God says not man. God said he chose only 144,000 to reigne in heaven as kings and priest over the earth. Rev After Armageddon and all the wicked has been destroyed off the earth God's kingdom Gov will begin its rule over earth. The resurrection will begin for the righteous and unrighteous. The unrighteous a resurrection of judgment on how they live during this time.
Jesus paid for their sins. For 1,000 yrs Christ and his anointed bros from earth will bring man to perfection. Any who do not wish to be obedient will go to a second death. Destroyed as if by fire. No more hope for these. At the end of Christ 1,000 yr reigne Satan will be loosed from the abyss to test perfect mankind. All those who remain obedient will be given everlasting life. They can partake from the trees of life. The rest fire will come fown and consume them and all the demons will be destroyed. Now God's will is done on earth. Jesus will hand the kingdom over to his father and God Jehovah/Yahweh will be all things to everyone.
Rev 21;3 4
1Cor 15:16-29