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Baptized unto repentance/ for repentance

Which comes first? Isn't it repentance FOLLOWED BY baptism? In Matthew 3 it says baptized FOR REPENTANCE. Please can you clarify?

Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

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Here is a link for you with "repent" everywhere in the NT. Repenting from sins is not the actual "free gift" of Salvation that God gave us through Jesus Christ. He lived a perfect life for us. No person is perfect. Though repenting and turning from the sins of this world is what God wants us to do, live Holy lives, and will show you are truly trying to follow in the footsteps of our Lord Jesus Christ. Producing good fruit of the Spirit and living for the Will of our Father.

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Repent mean to change your mind, and you must change your mind to believe the Gospel to be saved. Quitting sins is not part of Salvation.

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Is repentance part of the intial part of Salvation? Is so, what scriptures express this?

"And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now...".

This is just another way of saying, "Permit or allow this (special) baptism to proceed". I suppose it might also include the thought that John the Baptist was strongly opposing such a baptism, as hardly Jesus needed to be baptized. But Jesus quietly pleaded that John should perform it, for the fulfilling of all righteousness (i.e. to acknowledge His Coming, His Witness, & the receiving the Holy Spirit for the inauguration of His Ministry).

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If you read what I posted I think it's obvious that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist to fulfill all righteousness.

Matthew 3:15 "And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him." 16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

If you look at the bottom of your previous response, this was in reply to why you questioned, the need for Jesus to be baptized.

these are your words, The question, Why did Jesus need to be baptized is a good question.

Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill, If you read in Luke he was also circumcised and he didn't need to be, likewise in Matthew, John says that he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus reply's that all righteousness needs to be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

When a person is baptized they confess their sin. And in Matthew we learn Jesus was baptized.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15. And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Hello Marilyn,

Where are you getting "Jesus needed to be baptized or to repent of something"? So you don't believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life for you and me?

Jesus Christ is completely on a different level than all other people. Even John saying that he needed to be baptized of Him in Matthew 3:14-15. Jesus saying He did it to fulfill all righteousness. Maybe just to humble himself.

So the question really is do you believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life and was sent by God the Father?

"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God." Luke: 18:19.

The question was asked why did Jesus need to be baptized? He was not a fornicator. However, there must have been something he needed to repent of.

The original meaning of the word Baptism is to be washed from all the laws written in the book of Leviticus. Baptism is washing one's self from breaking any of those laws. In Matthew 3:6, "And were baptized of him confessing their sins." People are washed by confessing their sins. They are washed by the word of God. By believing the truth.

Lu 3:3 " And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins".

Baptism is confessing your sins. That is what baptism is as stated in Matthew 3:6, "and were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins."

The question, Why did Jesus need to be baptized is a good question.

But don't forget the significates for John baptizing Jesus. Jesus was without sin so why did he come to John to be baptized? ( Matthew 3:14)

Because revealing him as the Messiah, the Christ, through him (John) he had to be baptized by John.

John did not yet understand that Jesus was actually stepping into the sinners' shoes. And there, where the covenant breakers were confessing their sins, those sins passed onto Jesus and He became sin-laden in our stead. He became the scapegoat for us.

I need to get back to Jesus, I am lost, and broken.

John the Baptist was not very impressed with Billy and Franklin Graham, nor T. D. Jakes nor the Pope when they came to be baptized confessing their sins. John called the public ministers of his day who held great sway over the church and people in all religious matters and the understandings of serving the Living God. John the Baptists who had the Spirit of God with Him of whom God said John was the greatest of all prophets because God spoke the clearest through him. And John was announcing the new strange thing Jesus and God were doing bringing Jesus exact nature and God's indwelling presence in intimacy to reconcile all mankind to God once again and bringing the hope of glory and eternal life.

God spoke of those He and Jesus were Perfecting in their flesh YOU are greater a prophet than John the Baptist who had not the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of God's indwelling presence with love, Knowledge, wisdom and Power after the evidence of Speaking in the Heavenly language of prophetic tongues which is God speaking in prayer to and through you for understanding and guidance.

John says Oh Generation of Vipers about these religious fakers in that day and in this as well because they preach No One Is Perfect while on the earth in his flesh. But here was the Son of God as our high priest in the flesh manifesting the indwelling presence of the Living God in sinless Perfection and God's Righteousness in His flesh as our example which God and Jesus said is our image when God cleans us and lifts us from our repented sins. Oh you generation of Vipers who has revealed to you the wrath that is to come. In Job God calls these False Religious men whom come before God in prayer whom he despises SATAN, and reveals their wickedness toward anyone who dares approach God without their approval and through their fake understandings and dead doctrines but not intimacy with God in His grand scheme to lift you suddenly into Christ so you can have a face to.

I have a question, Who was Antipas in the Church of Pergamos?

This is my beloved Son in whom I'm well pleased .

God the Father said about Jesus .

Keep it in context to understand the bible .

You are correct, that there was no requirement for Jesus to be baptized, whether required by Jewish Law or for any need of repentance. As Jesus said, that this act of His was to "fulfil all righteousness, for both of them" ( Matthew 3:15).

By this statement of Jesus, I understand that Jesus identified with John the Baptist, in his specific calling as a prophet & ministry of being the "voice in the wilderness, crying, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight." This gave a Divine & public testimony to John, as much as it was confusing to him that rather he should be the baptizee.

Also, this occasion was for the inauguration of Jesus' Ministry, where the Godhead (the Trinity) was involved in the affirmation of the ministry & the empowerment to do so. So we find that the Father gave His Approval (verse 17) & the Spirit came specifically upon Him in a public 'testimony' manner (verse 16), thereby giving the Divine Declaration that this is indeed the Holy One from God, Who through His Sacrifice will accomplish much more than John could ever do, even to the 'spiritual' baptizing with the "Holy Ghost & with fire"; Who will also be their Judge, "thoroughly purge(ing) his floor, and gather(ing) his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." (vv 11,12).

So, we see that this was not the usual baptism that John was giving to others: sinners demonstrating their sinful condition & need for cleansing. This was done to accomplish & publicly testify to Jesus' higher Calling: you can call it 'Jesus' inauguration service', just as those in the early Church were commended to service & even today, as the elders of a Fellowship lay hands upon & commend those going out to serve the Lord in full-time service.

In my understanding, the examples of 'God' in Genesis 2:2, is in the Hebrew, 'Elohim'. This word has a number of meanings & applications, as referring to the true God, or gods, or judges, rulers, etc. Here in Genesis & elsewhere where it's clearly in reference to the God of Heaven, then the word means that God is defined as Almighty, Everlasting & Unchangeable One.

When we look at verse 4, 'LORD God', the Hebrew is 'Yahweh', which defines Him as a Personal, self existent God, the Author of all things, gives expression & effect to His Plans & maintains a relationship with His creatures. So, in using the 'LORD God', or 'Yahweh Elohim', we learn of the fullest expression of Almighty God. Now why the writer has deemed it necessary to use the different Name of God in this context, I cannot tell as there seems to our understanding some inconsistency in their use throughout Scripture.

As far as John chapter 1 & the 'Word of God', here we see that this God ('Theos', a general word for God) has expressed Himself by His Word ('logos', a speech, a Divine utterance) & also by His Spirit (as in Matthew 3:16). So God has always existed & never changed throughout eternity. But at the appointed time ( Romans 5:6), God sent out His Word, giving His Word a body of flesh, for the purpose of bringing God's Message directly to His people (just as the prophets of old did), but this time to do what the Law couldn't do ( Romans 8:3). And that was the giving of the ultimate Gift to man: that God in the flesh (Jesus) would Himself lay down His Life for His people's (& our) redemption.

In Isaiah 7:14, the word is spelled out using the Hebrew/Chaldean/Aramaic spelling, Immanuel. Whereas in Matthew 1:23, Emmanuel is taken from the Greek spelling, Emmanouel. Both mean exactly the same: God with us.

Isaiah 7:14 names the new child born Immanuel with an "I", but when I search, it is spelled with an "E" Emmanuel. Why is this?

Basically the Holy Ghost will have to burn the demon in the baptism of fire in Judgement. The baptism of fire is where the Devil and his angels get cast into the lake of fire, they won't have the Holy Ghost. We believers will. If you willfully sin you will be worst off than when you did start. Meaning not as great in the Kingdom of God, less inheritance.

Matthew 3:10-13

10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:

12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The bad trees are also known as tares, demons. He didn't punish the demons yet because he seeks to salvage and harvest the good works of Faith. Upon baptism of water and initial confession of Lord Jesus, sin remisses. However wilful sin after that is not remissable and must wait and be burnt away upon harvesting of the wheat(good works of Faith). Baptism of water gives us good conscience to grow. Baptism of fire removes the sin as we enter the Kingdom of God upon harvest(Judgement Day)

Matthew 13

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together firs

In Matthew 3:16. The Bible says that he went straightway out of the water. It can be implied that this was full immersion. But it does not plainly say he was completely immersed. It is of my opinion that he was immersed into a watery grave to symbolize what was to come. His death, burial, and resurrection. There are many opinions to how he was baptized, and how we are to baptize today. I hope this helps a little.

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And you and I or anyone else will reach perfection except Jesus. Jesus was and is the only one that did not sin in anyway.

Repenting from your sins and accepting Jesus as your savour is the first step step. Living for Him from now on is your duty to Him. It don't mean we will not mess up now and then. When you do, confess that sin and try, try again.

Baptism doth now save us. I like to believe that in baptism our body is literally buried in death with Jesus Christ. Likewise, when we rise out of the water that we are raised a new creature ,raised in the life of Christ. putting on Christ. The sacrament also being the literal body and blood of Jesus. That we remember what he has done, and pray his body and blood will sanctify and cleanse us from all unrighteous. Doing this as often as we need to. Especially, in times of temptation and when men will fall away from the faith.

Repentance is essentially about changing our way of thinking and agreeing with God in regard to our sin and our need of Jesus Christ. It is the LORD's work to perfect us as we persist in walking daily with him:

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. ( Jude 24-25)

Salvation is a free gift from God through Jesus Christ whose perfect righteousness is credited to us when we trust him as our Savior. Salvation was purchased by Jesus' blood shed on the cross, and made certain by his resurrection from the dead.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. ( Romans 5:18)

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. ( Romans 10:8-13)

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. ( Ephesians 2:8-9)

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, ( 2 Timothy 1:9)