I started to research this verse today and was suprised at how many different answers there were.
The conclusion that I have arrived at is not any of those that I have seen so far.
The one common element in Matthew 24:28 and Luke 17:37 is mentioned just previously to the verses in both books. It is he second coming of Christ.
The only other mention that I can find about "fowl of the earth" that is tied into Christs second coming is in Revelation 19:17-18.
The word "carcase" means "to fall". The carcase are fallen ones, physically and spiritually. Those who are not children of God and are destroyed at the brightness of His coming. The eagles that gather are the fowls metioned in Revelation to feast on the wicked, the supper of the great God. I try to let scripture interpet its self and with prayer this is the conclusion that I have arrive at.
Jesus were given his disciples and followers specific commands, a kind of worldwide works that individually should follow,if truly they are an obedient followers. This is about the preaching work about the Kingdom of God and discipleship making. Please read Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 28:18,20
But most people around the world still do not know what is the Kingdom of God? And which among many religions are truly followers of Jesus, since Jesus himself warned that "many" will confess him as Lord but "will deceived many"- Matthew 24:4,5
The safest things to do is to stay at home and wait someone to knock on our door. Why? Because Jesus had specific command to his true followers, at Matthew 10:5-11 Jesus commanded his follower to " Preach the good news of the kingdom of God through house to house method, village to village and city to city." Also read Acts 20:20
Yes, if we are truly determined to obey Jesus command, We should stick to his "specific" teachings and wait until we meet this kind of people, right on our doorway. Ask them like, " Do you know what is the Kingdom of God?"
Here are some truth about the Kingdom of God:
When Will
God’s Kingdom Come?
“LORD, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” ( Acts 1:6) The apostles were eager to know when Jesus would establish his Kingdom. Today, some 2,000 years later, people are still eager to know: When will God’s Kingdom come?
Since Jesus made the Kingdom the theme of his preaching, you might expect that he discussed this question. And indeed he did! He spoke extensively about a marked period of time that he called his “presence.” ( Matthew 24:37) That presence is closely tied to the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom. What is this presence? Let us consider four truths the Bible reveals about the presence of Christ.
1. Christ’s presence would begin a long time after his death. Jesus gave an illustration in which he likened himself to a man who “traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power,” or to “secure a kingdom.” ( Luke 19:12; footnote) How was that prophetic illustration fulfilled? Well, Jesus died and was resurrected; then he traveled to the “distant land,” that is, heaven. As Jesus foretold in a similar illustration, his return in kingly power would come only “after a long time.”— Matthew 25:19.
Some years after Jesus ascended to heaven, the apostle Paul wrote: “This man [Jesus] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet.” ( Hebrews 10:12, 13) So a lengthy period of waiting followed Jesus’ arrival in heaven. The wait finally ended when Jehovah God made his Son the King of the long-promised Messianic Kingdom. That was when Christ’s presence began. Would humans on earth see this momentous event?
2. The presence is invisible to human eyes. Remember, Jesus discussed the sign of his presence. ( Matthew 24:3) If his presence were visible to human eyes, would a sign be needed? To illustrate: Imagine that you are traveling to see the ocean. You may see road signs directing you along the way, but once you are at the shore, standing at the water’s edge with the vast expanse of water stretching out to the horizon, would you expect to see a sign with a big arrow pointing ahead, emblazoned with the word “Ocean”? Of course not! Why have a sign to point out what you can easily identify with your eyes?
Jesus described the sign of his presence, not to point out something that humans could see with their eyes, but to help them discern something that would occur in heaven. Thus, Jesus said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness.” ( Luke 17:20) How, then, would the sign show those on earth that Christ’s presence had begun?
3. Jesus’ presence would be marked by a time of profound troubles here on earth. Jesus said that his presence as King in heaven would be marked on earth by wars, famines, earthquakes, pestilences, and lawlessness. ( Matthew 24:7-12; Luke 21:10, 11) What would cause all this misery? The Bible explains that Satan, “the ruler of this world,” is full of rage because he knows that his time is very short now that Christ’s presence as King has begun. ( John 12:31; Revelation 12:9, 12) Such visible evidence of Satan’s rage and of Christ’s presence has been abundant in our time. Especially since 1914, a year that historians acknowledge was a turning point, has this evidence appeared on an unprecedented and global scale.
All of that may sound like bad news, but it is not. It means that the Messianic Kingdom is ruling now in heaven. Very soon, that government will exercise its rule right here over all the earth. How, though, would people know about that Kingdom in order to accept its rule and become its subjects?
The bad news we hear every day proves that good things are coming soon
Two women discussing Jesus' prophecy
4. Jesus’ presence is marked by a global preaching work. Jesus said that his presence would be like “the days of Noah.”* ( Matthew 24:37-39) Noah was more than an ark builder; he was also “a preacher of righteousness.” ( 2 Peter 2:5) Noah warned people that a judgment from God was on its way. Jesus said that his followers on earth would be doing something similar during his presence. He prophesied: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”— Matthew 24:14.
As we saw in the preceding article, God’s Kingdom will destroy all the governments of this world. The preaching work alerts people that this heavenly government is about to act, giving all an opportunity to escape the coming destruction and become subjects of that Kingdom. The key question, then, is, How will you respond?
Will God’s Kingdom Mean Good News for You?
The message that Jesus preached was one of incomparable hope. After the rebellion in Eden thousands of years ago, Jehovah God purposed to form a government that would set matters right, returning faithful humans to the condition that God had in mind for them from the start—life eternal in a paradise here on earth. What could be more thrilling than the knowledge that this long-promised government is ruling right now in heaven? It is not some remote, abstract concept but a living reality!
Now, God’s appointed King is ruling in the midst of his enemies. ( Psalm 110:2) In this corrupt world alienated from God, the Messiah is fulfilling his Father’s desire to search out all who want to come to know God as he really is and to worship him “with spirit and truth.” ( John 4:24) The hope of living forever under the rule of God’s Kingdom is available to people of all races, ages, and social backgrounds. ( Acts 10:34, 35) We urge you to take hold of the marvelous opportunity before you. Learn about God’s Kingdom now, so that you can enjoy living under its righteous rule forever!— 1 John 2:17.
i like this chapter, sign of the time,this baically boil down to the intimes,dealing with us as christians,belieaving gods words and living by it.i belieave he dealing with us unto this point"matt.24,14 "and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nation then shall the end come.somewhere after that time frame god coming back for his church,born again believers,filled with the holyghost,speaking in touges,walking up right folks.then after god cloe the door on the gentiles,he will deal with his people the jews during the anti-christ error,because they will not be at the supper with jesus christ and his saints.
This scripture is simple if you are willing to believe what God says instead of saying well He said that but he meant this. Matthew 24:13 simply means that if we are saved, and hold true to GOd, obstaining from sin, or if we sin, repenting, until our death, then we will recieve the salvation that God has promised. But if you are saved, then turn back to sin, and do not remain true, you will die in your sins and go to hell. simple. God Bless!!
Luke 21:27
And then shall they see the Son of man COMING in a cloud with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the COMING of the Son of man be.
John 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is COMING, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Mark 13:26
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Matt. 24:20-24
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
24 For there shall arise false Christ, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
According to my understanding, there are approx 7 dispensations in the history of man and during the 7 years of tribulation, the world will be in a different dispensation. Right now we are in the dispensation of grace; "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". I believe that if we are sincere, we are saved and cannot lose our salvation. But during the 7 years of tribulation, some people will be saying, "Wow! those Christians were right, I'm going to believe". But now God says, "But he that endures to the end....." Now it's not only a question of your belief, it's a question of your longevity that will prove you are really sincere and that you're not just giving the Lord lip service in order to save your eternal life. Now you will have to prove that you will believe even unto death, in order to be saved. I haven't heard any explanation so far that convinces me that I am wrong. I prayed on this and the Lord gave me this interpretation and so far, it's the only one that fits into all of Matt 24. Thankyou and God Bless. Michael Massi
(in Response to Glenda's comment) Jesus never mentions anything about being brought up to safety in the Ark; rather he speaks of who is taken and who is left. "(38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, (39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (40) Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (41) Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. (42) Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." Verse 39 is the key verse to explain, in Jesus' own words, who was taken and who was left, and clearly it was those who were NOT ready for the flood who were taken, by the flood itself. If we were to apply this to the Coming of Christ, then logically we would have to come to the conclusion, based on these scriptures, that the church will be saved at the SAME TIME that the wicked will be destroyed. However, the pre-tribulation doctrine preaches that the saints will be raptured out, before the Beast and the Antichrist even sets up. Therefore, it is literally impossible to conclude that Jesus was talking about a pre-tribulation Rapture in Matthew 24.
No man knows the time of the day of The Lord, Isaiah 61:1 does not state the year it simply states; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD Which only our Heavenly Father knows. We are in the last days, all the signs are present. The collaping of the american economy is happening right in front of our eyes. The world economy is tied to the US Dollar so the world economy is failing too. Nuclear desstruction is coming to America as fortold. As for the rapture, that is not an entirely false doctrine.The angels are sealing the 144,000 elect and the 1/3 of Israel (not spiritual Israle not the Jew(ish) peoples that Rev 2:9 & 3:9 speak of) but the True jews who are flesh decendents of Jacob. Yes they are alive today preaching the true Gospel. And everybody will know soon who they are. They are the ones that will be protected from the impending destruction. I am enduring this wicked world with the hope of salvation. As Christ stated:Mathew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Gentiles time is nearly up.
Let no man deceive you. Jesus told us don't follow no one. Anti-christ means instead of jesus. Daniel tells us in chapter 10,11, Of his book that satan comes in peace speaking flatteries. Looks just like the lamb but speaks as the dragon. When you see the great Apostascy, a falling away, people leaving there Religions and chasing after antichrist who looks just like Our Christ,then you`ll know. Its a 5 month period. Shorten for the elect. Revelation 9. Satan comes in peace to deceive the world.the time was shorten. The seals and the program remains. God said in Ezekiel 13 of the K.J.V. He`s against them that teach His children to fly away to save their souls. Don't read the N.I.V. it missleads God`s plan, birds was replaced. 1st seal, satan comes with a fake crown and a poison bow. His sword is his lies to deceive. How else could he get the world to follow him. What is the opposit of war,its peace. Wars and rumours of wars don't be toubled. Peace is when you worry. Matthew 24: 4 first seal,first warning, let no man deceive you. 5. Yea, a lot of bad Bible teachers but satan brings a pit full of locust priest, Revelation 9:7 horses is power, with fake crowns,faces of men because they are, hair like a woman, so soft spoken and sweet, come to jesus and turn over them to the son of perdition[ death ] our little rock. Their teeth of lions to tare your soul away.9:9 breastplates of iron. Not our Breastplates our Priest wear with the 12 stones that are our tribes as worn in the old days. The sound of their chariots, check Ezekiel chapter one that may be the transportation they use to get here in. The dead that you read of in Revelation is the spirituall death. Smoke,fire,brimstone, Lies! When you read 666 its in your brain, read the IN! And on the hand, is nursing the system along wkth buying and sellin. Luke 23:29 Blessed are the barren, Cause we are not going to be deceived, the wombs that never bare and paps which never gave suck. Don't whore after the first one that comes as a lamb this time and wants you to fly away with him. Our Lord returns as a Lion,not a Lamb. When the money changes and the one world system is in place because that man of sin shows up and heals that deadly wound and the rest of the world whores after him, turn away. Pray to God above for direction. He loves you, we are His children.
(nobodies comment) VERSES 36-37 in MATTHEW tells you the anwer to that question.36- But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my FATHER only. 35-But as the days of Noe (Noah) were so shall also the coming of the SON of man be.
Stephen-Noah, his wife, shi sons and his son's family were brought to safty in the ark. When JESJS comes back to meet HIS children in the air, they ( HIS children) will be "caught up" reptured (brought to saftey) just like Noah was in the ark.A PLACE OF SAFTY during and after the flood and did not leave the ark until it was safe.HEBREW 11:7. Other verses on CHRIST'S coming ACTS 1;11 10-11, MATTHEW 23:39 24:30 25:31 /MARK: 14:62/ LUKE 17:24/ JOHN 14:13/PHILIPIANS 3:20-21/ 1 THESSALONIANS 4:17-18. READ TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED
derek,
I was reminded by the Lord's Holy WORD as follows!
DOERS OF THE SCRIPTURE ARE NEEDED BIGTIME!
Come on now. You really need to read this carefully. SCRIPTURE IS PLAIN. SCRIPTURE IS THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW JESUS! MANY only go to church on sun-day because the catholics made them. They changed the calendar and PASSED IT DOWN AS MAN'S TRADITION. They DID NOT ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, AND THEREBY FORGOT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY. THIS is not being said lightly. TRADITIONS CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE. WHEN THEY DO THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN IN FAVOR OF HOLY SCRIPTURE. IF not we don't have any faith in what the scripture says because FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD! Those that changed sabbath to sunday have abandoned the faith that cometh by hearing that comes by the word of God. Go ahead study to show thyself approved and don't trust any man. Let EVERY MAN be A LIAR BUT LET GOD BE TRUE! HE IS TRUE IN HIS WORD!
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Psalm 119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now, some may quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
But what is also TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IS THIS SCRIPTURE FROM JESUS HIMSELF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS: " John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
What "letter" of the law is being spoken of here? Is it the letter of the law that is indicated in the following scripture? 2 Peter 1:20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Is it the "letter" of the law that is being spoken of in this scripture? 2 Timothy 3:15-17 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
ALL SCRIPTURE includes old an new testament. Circumcision of the male organ is the judaizing factor which is ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY unless it involves the "CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART FROM AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF."
Jesus said to keep His commandments! One of them is to remember to keep the sabbath day holy as a sign of Him as we await and prepare for His coming. the catholic church changed the calendar to sunday, the first day of the week and the catholics will boast and brag quite boldly that they did because of their IMMENSE POWER. So much is their boldness that they berate protestants who SAY they believe the bible first and foremost for their not keeping the SCRIPTURAL SABBATH. Catholics despise what they call sola scriptura and if they see waffling or weakness or inadherence to the scriptures by those that SAY they adhere to scripture first and foremost, they take every opportunity to impugn their RESOLVE, because they SAY and DO NOT DO!
JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. The New Testament is NO REPLACWEMENT OF THE OLD. IT IS THE FULFILLMENT! Need proof! Here are some EXPLICIT references AS WRITTEN IN THE King James Bible, TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN EVERY WORD!
Matthew 1:22
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:15
And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Matthew 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:23
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 4:14
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
Matthew 12:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Matthew 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Matthew 21:4
All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Matthew 26:54
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Matthew 27:9
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
Matthew 27:35
And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 13:4
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Mark 15:28
And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Luke 1:20
And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
Luke 2:43
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
Luke 4:21
And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Luke 21:22
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Put away yuor tradition and take up the tradition of GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. HIS WORD IS PLAINLY TRUE. IF you can read it, you can rely on it, even if you do not fully understand it. Ask and YE shall receive will take care of that part. Any lesser standard of belief in HIS HOLY WORD, is accepting the traditions of men and those are the "LETTERS" that "KILL" and those are what JESUS DECRIED AND BERATED THE PHARISEES ABOUT.
If you still insist the Sabbath, the token of JESUS CHRIST AND MESSIAH is not important or "JEWISH", since when have you as a believer in JESUS been CUT OUT OF THE OLIVE TREE'S ROOT AND FATNESS. You as a believer in JESUS ARE GRAFTED IN TO THE ROOT AND FATNESS THAT IS JESUS OUR KING. The Jews wre broken off for unbelief, and do you think you with unbelief will fare any better? Look it up. If it says "unto all your generations" or "perpetually" or "everlasting" etc. do we disregard that these words have EXTREMELY important meanings to ALL BELIEVERS? If you will keep the tradition of separation and GOD FORBID hatred of JEWS, YOU HAVE IGNORED the STORY OF RUTH AND THE WORDS OF THIS GENTILE MOABITESS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LET THEM NEVER FALL FROM YOUR LIPS. "YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE!"
STOP WITH THE TRADITION ALREADY! DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PLAIN WORD OF GOD, HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE!!!!
Once again I must assert that this verse is not referring to fallen angels. Take a look at the Book of Enoch as compared to the rest of the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Scriptures often repeat themselves, however the Book of Enoch mentions things that no other book even bothered to mention. It also uses words such as "Ages" and the "elect". When I read things like that, about the "lord of the ages" or how the "elect" will be blessed...well, let's just say that those words scream the illuminati.
It is written: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24 KJV. Yet, the Book of Enoch says this "The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed."
Open your mind for a minute and try to think why this book hasn't been accepted into the Canon. It's just like the rest of the Apocrypha - Vastly different from any other Canonical book.
The Book of Enoch also makes references to several angels. Here are some angels of note: Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel. However, Michael and Gabriel are the only angels mentioned in Canonical text. Uriel and Raphael, however, are mentioned in the Apocrypha. Putting the Apocrypha aside, how can we be led to believe that Uriel and Raphael, if they were real angels, weren't even important enough to mention in the rest of the scriptures if they play such a huge role in this supposedly important book? And, remember that Michael is actually Jesus Christ, for the name Michael actually means "He who is like GOD", therefore the only angel mentioned by name in the Canonical texts is Gabriel.
Also, you keep bringing up the existence of giants. I never argued against their existence. The Bible clearly states that they existed.
The Bible also assert's that Enoch existed. I never said he didn't. I also never said he wasn't a prophet. But you can't take the ONE cross reference between The Book of Enoch and The Book of Jude and just jump to the conclusion that The Book of Enoch is a Holy Book and that the early church rejected it because they were either misinformed or they were trying to hide something from the people.
You also make mention of Jude 1:6. How can one assume that Jude 1:6 is talking about the "fallen angels" from the Book of Enoch? Did you not forget that one-third of the angels in Heaven fell with Lucifer after they tried to stage a coup against the throne of GOD? I would assert that THESE are the angels that Jude is referencing here. It mentions this in Revelation 12:4 - "And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.”
You also mentioned this: "all cultures have a version of the "gods came from the sky and gave us knowledge" stories. the aztecs, the egyptians, the mayans, native americans, the dogon..."
Why should that make a difference? All of those civilization believed in pagan forms of worship, not Judaism or Christianity. What they believed has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all, nor does it have anything to do with the Bible.
"as for the book of enoch being a lost book. in ethiopia it was never lost. they have had it since forever. so the book was NEVER lost."
The Book of Enoch was considered to be a lost book for over 2000 years until 1773, when James Bruce returned from Ethiopia with three copies of it. Could it have existed for those 2000 years? Maybe. Did the church know about it or have it in their possession? No. Therefore it was lost to GOD's people.
Enoch was a prophet, but he didn't write this book. It's nothing but a farce - something to take your mind away from the truth, from the way things truly are, the things that truly exist, and, most importantly, GOD.
If no man knows WHEN the end will be, who is this is Isaiah 61? --
(1) The Spirit of the Lord GOD [is] upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to [them that are] bound;
(2)To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the DAY OF VENGENCE OF OUR GOD; to comfort all that mourn;
If no man knows the day is G-D a liar? What can the Isaiah 61 mean then? READ THE SCRIPTURES!
I believe that this so true about many of our Charismatic Christians and also organised religion. These false prophets set themselves up as Gods messengers but they are just men pretending to believe. Christ is our only leader and it is his example and the words of scripture that we should follow. As for Mark's comment, 'Dont be afraid mark this isn't the end time only the time BEFORE the end times. Read the Scripture. It says that no one Knows when the end time will be except for God.'
2 Peter 1:20: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any PRIVATE INTERPRETATION.
Amos 3: 7 -- Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he REVEALETH HIS SECRET unto his servants the prophets.
The prophets in our day (THE LATTER DAYS) are the two Witnesses in Revelation chapter 11. One of these prophets had already come and the world knew him not. The other prophet is now sounding the alarm!
None of the Prophet Isaiah’s words are for an individual’s private imaginations or personal gleanings. Many of Isaiah’s prophesies are concerning the latter days (our days) though they are mixed with prophesies that have already been accomplished in OLD Jerusalem. Consider Isaiah’s prophesy in chapter 61 verse 2. Now most, if not all Christians (who make up nations that were established by the covenant brought by Jesus and the Apostles much the OLD Jerusalem was made up of nations established by Moses John 9: 28), would agree that the one that one proclaiming liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison (grave) to those that are bound is none other that Jesus (not really a name just a transliteration derived from what the Greeks called him). But if this savior mentioned in this chapter is NONE OTHER than Jesus, Why does Jesus himself say in Matthew 24: 36 that no man knows the day or the hour (concerning the calamities that will soon take place in our day) but my father only. Is it unreasonable to think that the Father (whose name is Holy - Isaiah 45: 4 {read the Hebrew Names Version}) will not warn his servants so they can escape the horrible catastrophe to soon come upon the whole world to execute judgment on the rebellious and hypocritical nation ( Isaiah 10: 6; 33:14)? I’m not able to write the “whole vision” in the comments section here. It’s my intention to help warn the people and direct them to the information they DESPERATELY NEED ( Isaiah 41: 17). Consider Amos 8: 11: Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
People are struggling to find god and they now have there chance – ( Isaiah 34: 16). If the people in OLD Jerusalem were deceived by the religious leaders is Jesus’ day why should we think the same scenario ( Jeremiah 23; 5: 4; Ezekiel 34; 13: 5; Isaiah 3: 12, 9: 16) would not exist in our days which are the LATTER DAYS? There is SOO MUCH that we DON’T ALREADY KNOW of the scriptures. It is only through the LORD’S servant that we can escape the great and dreadful day of the LORD which is almost here ( Joel 1: 14, 15)! My email address is [email protected] – I want to hear from you and am open to ANY QUESTION about the scriptures because I’m convinced I know how the so-called 144,000 are to escape.
May the LORD who created all things be with us all!
The thing to remember is this, verse 27 "As lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, So shall the coming of the Son of man be." So whether this is a pre-tribulion rapture or not when our Lord christ Jesus returns it will be blind to no man or woman and no man or woman shall doubt the events that are happening. So fear not what may from translation, just open your heart to God and the holy spirit will show you the way when the time comes. In the name of our God Jehova and his only begotten son Chist Jesus I pray for all our salvation, Amen.
While many believe Jesus was speaking of a rapture where he would remove certain people from the earth, I stand here today to testify on the revelation I received through the Spirit, based upon experiences. When Jesus convicted me of my sins of false religion which I was brought up in, he 'raptured' me! I started a new life within the Kingdom of God which is here on earth, and my former friends no longer considered me as one of them. They persecute me, and shun me, and consider me as no longer being part of their family.Verse 40, (Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.) became reality to me. While God showed me great and marvelous things from His word, some of my family were 'left behind'.Truly, this new life is a rapture of the soul, and so far everything I have heard or read about the 'rapture' (a word not found in the King James bible) has pertained to my experience. I would challenge anybody who believes the rapture as explained in churches to examine yourselves whether perhaps your salvation is based on a mental belief of the printed word of God, instead of a heart transformation and manifestation of the Holy Spirit through power and victorious life! I remain very open and willing to learn more. I do not want to be misinformed.
Before anyone gets "caught up" in the idea that Jesus was referring to a pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church, let's look at these verses again. Jesus compares his coming as it was in the days of Noah and how, when they knew not that the flood was coming until it was upon them and "took them all away." Who was taken here? The unbelievers, of course. They were so wrapped up in their pleasures and their parties that they failed to heed the words of Noah, and the flood took them all away. Jesus goes one to say that two will be in the field, one will be "taken", the other, left. Two women grinding in the mill, one will be "taken" and the other one left. Clearly Jesus is explaining to us here that the unbelievers will be the ones taken, or destroyed as it were, while the church is spared. That does not coincide with a pre-tribulation rapture.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS LAYING OUT THE PATH FOR ALL OF HIS TRUE CHILDREN OF HIS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE TO STAY HOLY AS HE IS HOLY AS LONG AS WE SHALL LIVE CAUSE NO MAN KNOW THE HOUR HE IS COMING SO BE ALWAYS READY WITHOUT FAINT. THAT WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS BEFORE THE SON OF MAN WILL BE. I TRUST JESUS TO KEEP HIS PEOPLE UNTIL BE COMES FOR US AND THERE WILL BE SOME TAKEN AND SO LEFT.I AM SERVING JESUS WITH MY WHOLE HEART MIND AND BODY. THROUGHT JESUS ALL THINGS ARE POSSIABLE THROUGH JESUS WHO STRENTEN ME I PRAY HE WILL KEEP ALL OF US.TILL HE COMES IN JESUS NAME I PRAY
I very strong belived that the church of Jesus Crist that was washed and cleansed we be living this earth very sorltly. God bless you and see you my bothers and sisters and Christ soon.
IT QUITE SIMPLE ACTUALLY, OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR IS NOT WITHOUT MERCY EVEN IN TRYING TO PREPARE AND WARN HIS PEOPLE OF THE COMING TROUBLES. WE THAT ARE OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH SHOULD BE THANKFUL AND REJOICE IN HIS WARNING, BUT HAVE COMPASSION AND MERCY TOWARD THOSE THAT ARE NOT YET WALKING IN THE LIGHT. THERE WILL BE A TIME OF HEARTACHE, PAIN AND TERROR, LIKE NO ONE HAS EVER EXPERIENCED IN THIS DAY OR THE WORST YOU CAN IMAGINE NOW. THE DAYS MENTION IN CHAPTER 24 WILL BE SATAN AT HIS HIGHEST LEVEL OF EVIL. SO IF YOU DON'T TRULY KNOW JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOUR THEN NOW IS THE TIME TO CALL ON HIS NAME.
There is something so mystifying and magical about imagining Jesus describing to the disciples how that the very cornerstone itself would be leveled. Jesus became the cornerstone for all of mankind.My life has taken so many wrong turns and I feel his hand drawing me back to the fold. If there should be any one to read this pray that this prodigal might return to God's full measure of His saving grace. If no one reads this God knew the words before I ever typed them. Behold He is my Saviour. And He doth come quickly. He soon shall walk where those stones were leveled.
the son's words have been darkened via the light of the moon.the time of {easter }is found by way of the full moon relative to spring. this does not following the truth, as it is at the passover that jesus laid down and took up his life thru the commandment of his father. this must be repaired in order that the son of man be revealed.
The conclusion that I have arrived at is not any of those that I have seen so far.
The one common element in Matthew 24:28 and Luke 17:37 is mentioned just previously to the verses in both books. It is he second coming of Christ.
The only other mention that I can find about "fowl of the earth" that is tied into Christs second coming is in Revelation 19:17-18.
The word "carcase" means "to fall". The carcase are fallen ones, physically and spiritually. Those who are not children of God and are destroyed at the brightness of His coming. The eagles that gather are the fowls metioned in Revelation to feast on the wicked, the supper of the great God. I try to let scripture interpet its self and with prayer this is the conclusion that I have arrive at.
But most people around the world still do not know what is the Kingdom of God? And which among many religions are truly followers of Jesus, since Jesus himself warned that "many" will confess him as Lord but "will deceived many"- Matthew 24:4,5
The safest things to do is to stay at home and wait someone to knock on our door. Why? Because Jesus had specific command to his true followers, at Matthew 10:5-11 Jesus commanded his follower to " Preach the good news of the kingdom of God through house to house method, village to village and city to city." Also read Acts 20:20
Yes, if we are truly determined to obey Jesus command, We should stick to his "specific" teachings and wait until we meet this kind of people, right on our doorway. Ask them like, " Do you know what is the Kingdom of God?"
Here are some truth about the Kingdom of God:
When Will
God’s Kingdom Come?
“LORD, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” ( Acts 1:6) The apostles were eager to know when Jesus would establish his Kingdom. Today, some 2,000 years later, people are still eager to know: When will God’s Kingdom come?
Since Jesus made the Kingdom the theme of his preaching, you might expect that he discussed this question. And indeed he did! He spoke extensively about a marked period of time that he called his “presence.” ( Matthew 24:37) That presence is closely tied to the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom. What is this presence? Let us consider four truths the Bible reveals about the presence of Christ.
1. Christ’s presence would begin a long time after his death. Jesus gave an illustration in which he likened himself to a man who “traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power,” or to “secure a kingdom.” ( Luke 19:12; footnote) How was that prophetic illustration fulfilled? Well, Jesus died and was resurrected; then he traveled to the “distant land,” that is, heaven. As Jesus foretold in a similar illustration, his return in kingly power would come only “after a long time.”— Matthew 25:19.
Some years after Jesus ascended to heaven, the apostle Paul wrote: “This man [Jesus] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet.” ( Hebrews 10:12, 13) So a lengthy period of waiting followed Jesus’ arrival in heaven. The wait finally ended when Jehovah God made his Son the King of the long-promised Messianic Kingdom. That was when Christ’s presence began. Would humans on earth see this momentous event?
2. The presence is invisible to human eyes. Remember, Jesus discussed the sign of his presence. ( Matthew 24:3) If his presence were visible to human eyes, would a sign be needed? To illustrate: Imagine that you are traveling to see the ocean. You may see road signs directing you along the way, but once you are at the shore, standing at the water’s edge with the vast expanse of water stretching out to the horizon, would you expect to see a sign with a big arrow pointing ahead, emblazoned with the word “Ocean”? Of course not! Why have a sign to point out what you can easily identify with your eyes?
Jesus described the sign of his presence, not to point out something that humans could see with their eyes, but to help them discern something that would occur in heaven. Thus, Jesus said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness.” ( Luke 17:20) How, then, would the sign show those on earth that Christ’s presence had begun?
3. Jesus’ presence would be marked by a time of profound troubles here on earth. Jesus said that his presence as King in heaven would be marked on earth by wars, famines, earthquakes, pestilences, and lawlessness. ( Matthew 24:7-12; Luke 21:10, 11) What would cause all this misery? The Bible explains that Satan, “the ruler of this world,” is full of rage because he knows that his time is very short now that Christ’s presence as King has begun. ( John 12:31; Revelation 12:9, 12) Such visible evidence of Satan’s rage and of Christ’s presence has been abundant in our time. Especially since 1914, a year that historians acknowledge was a turning point, has this evidence appeared on an unprecedented and global scale.
All of that may sound like bad news, but it is not. It means that the Messianic Kingdom is ruling now in heaven. Very soon, that government will exercise its rule right here over all the earth. How, though, would people know about that Kingdom in order to accept its rule and become its subjects?
The bad news we hear every day proves that good things are coming soon
Two women discussing Jesus' prophecy
4. Jesus’ presence is marked by a global preaching work. Jesus said that his presence would be like “the days of Noah.”* ( Matthew 24:37-39) Noah was more than an ark builder; he was also “a preacher of righteousness.” ( 2 Peter 2:5) Noah warned people that a judgment from God was on its way. Jesus said that his followers on earth would be doing something similar during his presence. He prophesied: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”— Matthew 24:14.
As we saw in the preceding article, God’s Kingdom will destroy all the governments of this world. The preaching work alerts people that this heavenly government is about to act, giving all an opportunity to escape the coming destruction and become subjects of that Kingdom. The key question, then, is, How will you respond?
Will God’s Kingdom Mean Good News for You?
The message that Jesus preached was one of incomparable hope. After the rebellion in Eden thousands of years ago, Jehovah God purposed to form a government that would set matters right, returning faithful humans to the condition that God had in mind for them from the start—life eternal in a paradise here on earth. What could be more thrilling than the knowledge that this long-promised government is ruling right now in heaven? It is not some remote, abstract concept but a living reality!
Now, God’s appointed King is ruling in the midst of his enemies. ( Psalm 110:2) In this corrupt world alienated from God, the Messiah is fulfilling his Father’s desire to search out all who want to come to know God as he really is and to worship him “with spirit and truth.” ( John 4:24) The hope of living forever under the rule of God’s Kingdom is available to people of all races, ages, and social backgrounds. ( Acts 10:34, 35) We urge you to take hold of the marvelous opportunity before you. Learn about God’s Kingdom now, so that you can enjoy living under its righteous rule forever!— 1 John 2:17.
And then shall they see the Son of man COMING in a cloud with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the COMING of the Son of man be.
John 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is COMING, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Mark 13:26
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Matt. 24:20-24
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
24 For there shall arise false Christ, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
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Stephen-Noah, his wife, shi sons and his son's family were brought to safty in the ark. When JESJS comes back to meet HIS children in the air, they ( HIS children) will be "caught up" reptured (brought to saftey) just like Noah was in the ark.A PLACE OF SAFTY during and after the flood and did not leave the ark until it was safe.HEBREW 11:7. Other verses on CHRIST'S coming ACTS 1;11 10-11, MATTHEW 23:39 24:30 25:31 /MARK: 14:62/ LUKE 17:24/ JOHN 14:13/PHILIPIANS 3:20-21/ 1 THESSALONIANS 4:17-18. READ TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED
I was reminded by the Lord's Holy WORD as follows!
DOERS OF THE SCRIPTURE ARE NEEDED BIGTIME!
Come on now. You really need to read this carefully. SCRIPTURE IS PLAIN. SCRIPTURE IS THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW JESUS! MANY only go to church on sun-day because the catholics made them. They changed the calendar and PASSED IT DOWN AS MAN'S TRADITION. They DID NOT ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, AND THEREBY FORGOT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY. THIS is not being said lightly. TRADITIONS CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE. WHEN THEY DO THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN IN FAVOR OF HOLY SCRIPTURE. IF not we don't have any faith in what the scripture says because FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD! Those that changed sabbath to sunday have abandoned the faith that cometh by hearing that comes by the word of God. Go ahead study to show thyself approved and don't trust any man. Let EVERY MAN be A LIAR BUT LET GOD BE TRUE! HE IS TRUE IN HIS WORD!
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Psalm 119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now, some may quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
But what is also TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IS THIS SCRIPTURE FROM JESUS HIMSELF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS: " John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
What "letter" of the law is being spoken of here? Is it the letter of the law that is indicated in the following scripture? 2 Peter 1:20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Is it the "letter" of the law that is being spoken of in this scripture? 2 Timothy 3:15-17 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
ALL SCRIPTURE includes old an new testament. Circumcision of the male organ is the judaizing factor which is ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY unless it involves the "CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART FROM AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF."
Jesus said to keep His commandments! One of them is to remember to keep the sabbath day holy as a sign of Him as we await and prepare for His coming. the catholic church changed the calendar to sunday, the first day of the week and the catholics will boast and brag quite boldly that they did because of their IMMENSE POWER. So much is their boldness that they berate protestants who SAY they believe the bible first and foremost for their not keeping the SCRIPTURAL SABBATH. Catholics despise what they call sola scriptura and if they see waffling or weakness or inadherence to the scriptures by those that SAY they adhere to scripture first and foremost, they take every opportunity to impugn their RESOLVE, because they SAY and DO NOT DO!
JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. The New Testament is NO REPLACWEMENT OF THE OLD. IT IS THE FULFILLMENT! Need proof! Here are some EXPLICIT references AS WRITTEN IN THE King James Bible, TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN EVERY WORD!
Matthew 1:22
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:15
And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Matthew 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:23
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 4:14
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
Matthew 12:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Matthew 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Matthew 21:4
All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Matthew 26:54
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Matthew 27:9
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
Matthew 27:35
And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 13:4
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Mark 15:28
And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Luke 1:20
And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
Luke 2:43
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
Luke 4:21
And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Luke 21:22
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Put away yuor tradition and take up the tradition of GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. HIS WORD IS PLAINLY TRUE. IF you can read it, you can rely on it, even if you do not fully understand it. Ask and YE shall receive will take care of that part. Any lesser standard of belief in HIS HOLY WORD, is accepting the traditions of men and those are the "LETTERS" that "KILL" and those are what JESUS DECRIED AND BERATED THE PHARISEES ABOUT.
If you still insist the Sabbath, the token of JESUS CHRIST AND MESSIAH is not important or "JEWISH", since when have you as a believer in JESUS been CUT OUT OF THE OLIVE TREE'S ROOT AND FATNESS. You as a believer in JESUS ARE GRAFTED IN TO THE ROOT AND FATNESS THAT IS JESUS OUR KING. The Jews wre broken off for unbelief, and do you think you with unbelief will fare any better? Look it up. If it says "unto all your generations" or "perpetually" or "everlasting" etc. do we disregard that these words have EXTREMELY important meanings to ALL BELIEVERS? If you will keep the tradition of separation and GOD FORBID hatred of JEWS, YOU HAVE IGNORED the STORY OF RUTH AND THE WORDS OF THIS GENTILE MOABITESS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LET THEM NEVER FALL FROM YOUR LIPS. "YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE!"
STOP WITH THE TRADITION ALREADY! DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PLAIN WORD OF GOD, HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE!!!!
Once again I must assert that this verse is not referring to fallen angels. Take a look at the Book of Enoch as compared to the rest of the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Scriptures often repeat themselves, however the Book of Enoch mentions things that no other book even bothered to mention. It also uses words such as "Ages" and the "elect". When I read things like that, about the "lord of the ages" or how the "elect" will be blessed...well, let's just say that those words scream the illuminati.
It is written: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24 KJV. Yet, the Book of Enoch says this "The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed."
Open your mind for a minute and try to think why this book hasn't been accepted into the Canon. It's just like the rest of the Apocrypha - Vastly different from any other Canonical book.
The Book of Enoch also makes references to several angels. Here are some angels of note: Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel. However, Michael and Gabriel are the only angels mentioned in Canonical text. Uriel and Raphael, however, are mentioned in the Apocrypha. Putting the Apocrypha aside, how can we be led to believe that Uriel and Raphael, if they were real angels, weren't even important enough to mention in the rest of the scriptures if they play such a huge role in this supposedly important book? And, remember that Michael is actually Jesus Christ, for the name Michael actually means "He who is like GOD", therefore the only angel mentioned by name in the Canonical texts is Gabriel.
Also, you keep bringing up the existence of giants. I never argued against their existence. The Bible clearly states that they existed.
The Bible also assert's that Enoch existed. I never said he didn't. I also never said he wasn't a prophet. But you can't take the ONE cross reference between The Book of Enoch and The Book of Jude and just jump to the conclusion that The Book of Enoch is a Holy Book and that the early church rejected it because they were either misinformed or they were trying to hide something from the people.
You also make mention of Jude 1:6. How can one assume that Jude 1:6 is talking about the "fallen angels" from the Book of Enoch? Did you not forget that one-third of the angels in Heaven fell with Lucifer after they tried to stage a coup against the throne of GOD? I would assert that THESE are the angels that Jude is referencing here. It mentions this in Revelation 12:4 - "And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.”
You also mentioned this: "all cultures have a version of the "gods came from the sky and gave us knowledge" stories. the aztecs, the egyptians, the mayans, native americans, the dogon..."
Why should that make a difference? All of those civilization believed in pagan forms of worship, not Judaism or Christianity. What they believed has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all, nor does it have anything to do with the Bible.
"as for the book of enoch being a lost book. in ethiopia it was never lost. they have had it since forever. so the book was NEVER lost."
The Book of Enoch was considered to be a lost book for over 2000 years until 1773, when James Bruce returned from Ethiopia with three copies of it. Could it have existed for those 2000 years? Maybe. Did the church know about it or have it in their possession? No. Therefore it was lost to GOD's people.
Enoch was a prophet, but he didn't write this book. It's nothing but a farce - something to take your mind away from the truth, from the way things truly are, the things that truly exist, and, most importantly, GOD.
(1) The Spirit of the Lord GOD [is] upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to [them that are] bound;
(2)To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the DAY OF VENGENCE OF OUR GOD; to comfort all that mourn;
If no man knows the day is G-D a liar? What can the Isaiah 61 mean then? READ THE SCRIPTURES!
Amos 3: 7 -- Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he REVEALETH HIS SECRET unto his servants the prophets.
The prophets in our day (THE LATTER DAYS) are the two Witnesses in Revelation chapter 11. One of these prophets had already come and the world knew him not. The other prophet is now sounding the alarm!
None of the Prophet Isaiah’s words are for an individual’s private imaginations or personal gleanings. Many of Isaiah’s prophesies are concerning the latter days (our days) though they are mixed with prophesies that have already been accomplished in OLD Jerusalem. Consider Isaiah’s prophesy in chapter 61 verse 2. Now most, if not all Christians (who make up nations that were established by the covenant brought by Jesus and the Apostles much the OLD Jerusalem was made up of nations established by Moses John 9: 28), would agree that the one that one proclaiming liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison (grave) to those that are bound is none other that Jesus (not really a name just a transliteration derived from what the Greeks called him). But if this savior mentioned in this chapter is NONE OTHER than Jesus, Why does Jesus himself say in Matthew 24: 36 that no man knows the day or the hour (concerning the calamities that will soon take place in our day) but my father only. Is it unreasonable to think that the Father (whose name is Holy - Isaiah 45: 4 {read the Hebrew Names Version}) will not warn his servants so they can escape the horrible catastrophe to soon come upon the whole world to execute judgment on the rebellious and hypocritical nation ( Isaiah 10: 6; 33:14)? I’m not able to write the “whole vision” in the comments section here. It’s my intention to help warn the people and direct them to the information they DESPERATELY NEED ( Isaiah 41: 17). Consider Amos 8: 11: Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
People are struggling to find god and they now have there chance – ( Isaiah 34: 16). If the people in OLD Jerusalem were deceived by the religious leaders is Jesus’ day why should we think the same scenario ( Jeremiah 23; 5: 4; Ezekiel 34; 13: 5; Isaiah 3: 12, 9: 16) would not exist in our days which are the LATTER DAYS? There is SOO MUCH that we DON’T ALREADY KNOW of the scriptures. It is only through the LORD’S servant that we can escape the great and dreadful day of the LORD which is almost here ( Joel 1: 14, 15)! My email address is [email protected] – I want to hear from you and am open to ANY QUESTION about the scriptures because I’m convinced I know how the so-called 144,000 are to escape.
May the LORD who created all things be with us all!