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Jesus speaks in Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (in Jesus time)

Who killed the prophets? ...O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets...

Revelation 18:24 and in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Well said Beverly Barnes as to the "rapture" NOT being biblical. Thank you for being a voice of reason and truth.

DiamondJane exactly and Jesus even uses this imagery in his words.

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

The whore that sits on many WATERS

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS, keep this in mind.

Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. I do not see Rome here since when did the Lord send prophets to Rome?

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God who confront the false prophet are mentioned here:

Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

NOT in Rome nor in Mecca nor in the USA

Antisemitism is against the Lord Jesus. King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.



John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

Act 9:23 - And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him

Act 23:12 - And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.

Act 26:21 - For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.

Matthew 23:15 - Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

...... Rev 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Rev 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Rev 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

Rev 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. NOT Rome or in Mecca or the USA

Jerusalem killed the prophets, not Rome, and since babylon killed the prophets = Jerusalem

Ezekiel 16:2 - Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Malachi 2:11 - Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

Unfortunately, the media likes to deceive and pretend that the leading causes of preventable death is no big deal, while acting like we should focus on a way lower threat. Since Feb 1, more people have died of pneumonia alone than covid-19. Source: CDC which is the absolute authority. So, no one covers that higher threat, but covers the lesser threat. But pneumonia is nowhere near as dangerous as accidents, such as driving. And smoking causes hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, as does alcohol and drugs, but somehow that's popular and gets ignored. Strain out a gnat and swallow a camel Matthew 23:24.

Besides heart disease and other higher risks, the absolute highest threat of death is entirely preventable. Not only that but the government actually encourages and helps fund the deaths which is absolutely sickening. It's abortion. Many states even conceal the horrifying high number killed, but it is estimated to be 1 million just in the US alone. God will surely punish severely all those involved in mass murder. Media rarely will talk about the actual leading causes of death which are entirely preventable.

Grace - Q: Did Jesus take the Kingdom of God from the Jews?

A: Matthew 21:43 - Therefore say I (Jesus speaking to the Jews) unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. So which language was the New Testament written in? GREEK.

Why? King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. It was not the Romans who troubled Jesus.

Jesus had it with their man made rules in Matthew 23:15 - Jesus speaks: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 2X the child of Hell does not sound very nice.

no one can prove to me from the Bible alone that the family of Jesus called him Yeshua.

Besides Rabbis called Jesus YESHU which is a curse meaning may his name be blotted out.

Luke Chapter 1

:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name [was] Mary.

28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

(Angel Gabriel gave JESUS his name from the Lord)

so what scriptural authority does anyone have to call him YESHUa?

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

I believe the Bible is right Jesus is not in error.

The whore that sits on many WATERS

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS.

Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

NOT Rome nor in Mecca or the USA

I don't think so,

The 2nd Chapter of Colossians is on atonement in general,but I believe Paul is dealing with the ultra religious, those who 'swallow a camel, but strain out a gnat. Matthew 23:24

Ref: Further in Chapter 2:21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? 2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honor to the satisfying of the flesh.

Ric - I am no fan of the Pope or the Vatican. However it was not Rome that killed the apostles, the prophets or Jesus.

King James Bible book of John 5:16 - And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:18 - Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.



John 7:1 - After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.

Revelation 11:8 - And their (2 witnesses) dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Jesus, my LORD, was crucified in Jerusalem, which is spiritually called Sodom)

Jesus in John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Acts 23:12 - And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.

Jesus speaks in Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews, not all Jews are Pharisees) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. (Rabbis say Jesus was antisemitic)

Matthew 23:39
"For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. In other words when you (See )Jesus then you can(say ) or have something to say. When you get the revelation then you have something to say. Peoples opinions are neither right or wrong until, you put it against a Standard or The Truth. God/Jesus/ Holy Spirit alone is Truth, The Way, The Life , The Answer. When God reveals Himself and His Will that is what should come out of us and that's what God wants to fulfill. So let God be True and everyone a liar, but confess that Jesus is the Christ .

You are right Joe for sure. Thank you for your feedback. Amen! Bless you in your studies.

Mike - I have no issue with your reasons 1 or 2. However, I have a big issue with theologians or scholars who do this. Their job and their only job is properly explain scriptures so that everyone can understand. They can preach, they can write books, they can hold bible study classes .... While there are translation errors, these need to be carefully studied so as not to change the basic and intended message as you point out in Rev 22:19.

Why does God allow witches, magicians, sorcerers, wizards, and other wicked persons to impersonate Christians, preachers, Jewish priests, and others in trusted positions, allowing them to weary the very flock He entrusted them to shepherd and to serve? These today, being even worse than Eli the priest's sons ( I Samuel 2:12-17), and the scribes and Pharisees of Christ's preaching days ( Matthew 23:1-3 or Matthew 23 for God, the Son's entire speech). I'm just tired of all of the wicked getting away with doing SO MUCH to the innocent, and for God not revealing to men the truth about grave (but earthly) matters. I'm sick of not being good enough (truly) to get my prayers answered by the LORD God,

Read Matthew 23 sometime and ask what it means to be called hypocrites and children of hell
Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
He was not talking to the romans...

Thank you Fred and yes we do indeed need Gods Wisdom not Wordly reasoning and understanding, if not corrected it will lead to acceptance of Sin. Proverbs 4:7 -Proverbs15:2. We were not Born with Gods Wisdom so we all lack it but when we ask in Faith we will receive James 1:5-8 because it is according to Gods Good Will for us as is the Empowering of The Holy Spirit 1Cor2 - Luke11:13 and also Confirmed in the Scriptures is our need to seek Jesus our only Spiritual Teacher Matthew 23:8-10 who Leads us into all Truth and also when we Study the Scriptures as you shared Fred but of course not like the Pharisees did John5:37-40. God Bless you Fred as you reach out to others with His Love.

True Mike as you shared not all changes in Scripture are to deceive but those that are as you warned Rev22 will be their Destiny their Choice not Gods its not His Will anyone Perishes, Hopefully they will repent and put right the wrong they have done. There is also Translation error even in the KJV so I would value your thoughts on these two verses because they Contridict... Lk11:4 and Jas1:13-14.

Donna, There are quite few reasons why the newer Bible translations have left out many scriptures in both O.T. and N.T. 1 Some theologians think that if they change the King James Version of the the Bible to modern day English more people read the Bible. 2 Some scholars also believe that the Greek and Hebrew translation have no president today, because the average believer does not care. 3 But they also forget what about Revelation 22:19 This is only my opinion.

Hi Donna, Cult Bibles delete Scriptures and add words or change them. When reading Translations First Check the Scriptures below in the KJV to see if they match or if the Scriptures have been Deleted, Changed or added to if so reject them their not GodsTruth. There are more but these Ones will Confirm error for you... Matthew23:14 -John1:1- Romans8:1-1John5:7 - If you want more check the Internet.

question as to why Mathew 23:14 is left out of certain bible readings

the rapture is biblical we are not going to have a utopia on this earth read matthew 24, 2nd thess1-7-9, matthew 25-1-13. jesus christ is comming for his bornagain blood washed saints then all hell will break loose. the question is how many will be left behind. we need to be sure we are really saved . read 1st john 3 closely

Not by that name. But I assure you that the resurrection is real.

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. -- Jesus said not to leave the other Tithe undone. If Jesus said it its so.

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Luke 11:42 said the same Jesus said these things you ought to do and not omit the waiter matters.

I believe that Jesus is telling christians that we should live our life,as to where our lives must match our words,and had the pharisees asked god to forgive them,of their hypocrisy,and persecution of christians, i believe that jesus would have forgiven them.

1 week Ago Beverly barnes Rapture is not biblical, look up a woman name Mary McDonald, if you would read 1Thess.4: 13 14 verse ask GOD to open up your understanding, hope I was a help to someone Please read the next verse.

The death of Jesus Christ was the end of the law old era . Christ ended the law, we are no more under the law because Christ fulfilled and abolished the law.

Rapture is not biblical, look up a woman name Mary McDonald, if you would read 1Thess.4: 13 14 verse ask GOD to open up your understanding, hope I was a help to someone

NOWHERE: reminds me of a story I heard long ago about a little girl who was watching her Mother post in a forum something like this one. Her Mother posted: God is NOWHERE. The little girl starting crying. Her Mother asked her why she was crying and she said because you typed God is NOW HERE.