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(will we know people? In Heaven) John 10:14, John 15:15, Acts 15:18, 2 Corinthians 3:2, 2 Corinthians 6:7-10,
1 Corinthians 13:12, Isaiah 40:11, Isaiah 60:4, Isaiah 66:18, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, Ephesians 1:10, Luke 16:19-31,
Hopefully these are encouraging & helpful in answering your questions in this.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:4-8,10-14
What are we to do when each day the news agencies report ever increasing threats of terror, hurricanes, cyclones, earthquakes, tsunamis, droughts, fires, floods, famines, pestilences and wars in our world? Jesus gave us His advice in the verses of Matthew 24
Matthew 24:8, Mark 13:8
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
We're going to see "earth pains" as Jesus compared it to the labor pains of a woman. We will get through this part; just hand on tightly to Jesus. Read the Gospels where he taught the disciples about it. (that's us).
Sometimes Nelson Walters teaches a little fast; but you might watch some of his "book of Daniel" end time teachings (on youtube).
We're going to witness nations rising up against other nations, on TV !! (Such as Russia taking over Ukraine) Or, Palestinian Nations attacking Israel. The USA is giving money to Israel's ENEMIES.
Let's do what Jesus said: PRAY for the Peace of Jerusalem!
EVANGELIZE lost people. Hang on to your JOY.
Only the Father knows the day Jesus will return, Mark 13:32, we are told to watch Matthew 25:13. How do we know Jesus died in the first place, we look back, God said 100s of years before it would happen. Isaiah 7:14 Scripture points to how he will be born, and also to one of the names given to Christ: Immanuel, Matthew 1:23. Micah 5:2 This scripture tells where He will be born and from what tribe, which was Judah, Matthew 2:5 Luke 2:4.
Psalm 22:7-8 This scripture tells how they will ridicule Him, Matthew 27:40-43. Psalm 22:16-18 the same refers to the actual crucifixion of Christ, Matthew 27:35,39,41,49. Isaiah 53:5 tells they will pierce Him for our transgressions, and by his wounds, we are healed, John 19:34.
I could list more scripture that was written 100s of years before that is clear that it was Jesus our savior that was told of before and what would happen to Him, and we can be sure He will return the same way as He ascended Acts 1:10-11 Revelation 1:7
God bless and have faith; If prophecy told it would happen 100s of years before and it happened have no doubt it is true. He is coming back and will set the kingdom upon the earth.
RLW
The scriptures that you quoted are certainly true. We are saved by faith not by obeying the law. He shed His blood for us. However, disregard of the law of God was what brought down Lucifer and Adam and Eve. There was no sin till then.We, in our flesh, also do not obey nor can obey the law of God. The 10 Commandments have not been abolished. Jesus said in Matthew 5 vs 18: 'till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.'
What does being saved mean? To verbally accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour without complete commitment is worthless.What does He say about being lukewarm? We can lose our salvation as evidenced by scriptures such as Matthew24:13 'but he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved', Rev 3:11 'hold fast..so that no one may seize your crown', also eg. Mark 13:13, Hebrews 6:4-65, Heb 3:6
"SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW" 1John 3:4. If we sin, we have forgiveness by repenting to our advocate with the Father. 1 John 2:1. With His Spirit within us, we grow in our characters to become more like Jesus, who obeyed His Father.
He did not sin and became our substitute. We are saved from our sins not to keep on sinning. Deception in the churches on this point abounds. We are warned not to be deceived-eg. Matt24;4, 2 Thess 2-3, 1 Cor 6:9-10
To see what the faithful church will look like at the return of Jesus, examine Rev 14vs12- THEY KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THE FAITH OF JESUS. In contrast to this, 'the love of many shall wax cold.' Matt 24:12
Note further Rev 22vs 14:
' BLESSED ARE THEY THAT DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, THAT THEY MAY HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE AND MAY ENTER IN THROUGH THE GATES INTO THE CITY.'
Jesus does not separate Himself from His law. He said of Himself 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.'
The Bible also tells us in Psalm 119vs 142 'Thy Law is Truth.'
1 John 2:4 says we are liars if we say we love Him and do not keep His commandments.
I do not believe it to be the 'time" nor 'mark' However I Believe we are to be wise. Psalms 2:10,Teaching our children. Deuteronomy 11:19.The scripture does say 'hand or forehead" Revelations 13:11-18, please read around scripture for best context. Unless translation could mean arm, it's not clearly "the mark of the beast". I think the reason many are alarmed about this is
1st because of ingredient in vaccination, Psalms 106:29, Psalms 36-39
2nd whistle blowers coming forth with evidence of ungodly acts in testing, ingredient & side-affects
3rd the division it's caused & causing in Church & society
4th The Forcefulness of it all, losing ability to work, travel in some cases
5th The targeting of the T-cells, and cells that give space for communication with GOD, discovered by scientific study, (Reported 2009). Even having immediate side-affects
6th possibly most troubling for some: 1st P. C. developer bought pharmaceutical & Biotechnology ''vaccination' developer. Then filed for patent : WO/2020/060606 for: Cryptocurrency using body activity.
Please don't panic. 1 John 4:18,
Mark 13:22, Mark 13:5-37, several of those have yet to happen. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-13, could the great falling away be those who put all faith in rapture? Revelations 6:8-11, John 17:1-20, holdfast during trial Matthew 24:13, Matthew 24:4-51,
What is worship? Is it adoration, admiration, time given to, consuming, looking into intently, loving? Some feared computers were "the beast" the image of the beast? Cell phones or 'computer chips" The other day I wondered what it looks like to GOD seeing so many faces looking into devices, not up to HIM. Let us Worship only GOD ALMIGHTY, creator of Heaven & Earth.
Hopefully this is helpful in your research of Truth. I will pray for you also & sad for your loss & heaviness for loved ones being deceived. Peace to you
B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming
The Second Coming, According to Prophecy
1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords, Is Coming From Heaven! Matthew 24:29 Revelation 19:11,16
2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! Revelation 19:12-15
3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! Revelation 19:12-15
(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * "All Of His holy angels,"
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations
Matthew 25:31 Revelation 19:11,15
(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on
the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: "gather the elect"...
Matthew 24:31 Mark 13:27
6) ...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! Matthew 25:31-36 Matthew 25:36-41 Matthew 25:41-46
7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! Matthew 25:34-38 Matthew 25:38-41
Matthew 25:41-46
Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER
The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!
to be continued in Part III God's Great GRACE Departure
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
If you look closely at the verse, it says that it was the herd of pigs that drowned. It does not tell us that the demons themselves drowned. It was the demons that entered into the pigs and caused them to violently run over the edge of the cliff and drown. But it was the pigs that drowned, not the demons.
Hope this helps!
I cannot understand this verse. If the demons are spirits; how can they drown by just entering the pigs?
Mathew 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 21:33, Psalm 37:1-40,
2 Corinthians 5:17, Isaiah 48:6, Revelation 21:5, 2 Peter 3:13, Isaiah 65:17, Revelation 21:1,
Mathew 6:30-33
Hopefully this is helpful & encouraging.
Mark 13:13
John 14:26
1 John 2:27, 1 John 2,
Some of us have to pray for understanding
If I may add a little perspective on Mark 13:30. And please know that I am not being argumentative as you mention you are not looking for an argument. I'm not looking for one either. I truly respect you for the things you share here and I always enjoy reading your posts. Thank you for that. You don't even need to respond back. I just want to share some info that I've learned on this word generation that is used here. The word in the Greek text is the word GENEA, and it has nothing to do with years. It means a race or kind of people. I'm not sure if you recall, but I remember that there was a group back in the mid 80's that said that Christ was coming back in 1988. They came up with this calculation from taking the 1948 date and adding 40 years to that. At that time, they considered a generation to be 40 years. So they took the word generation, and put 40 years to it and came up with Jesus returning in 1988. Well, that didn't happen. But since that time, there has been other groups coming up with exact dates of Jesus' return. They also believe that the word generation means years when that is not what the word GENEA means. It means a race or kind of people. In Mark 13:30 where Jesus said this generation shall not pass, the generation, (Race) He was speaking of is the Jews. What Jesus was saying was this generation, meaning this people (Jews), they are not going to pass away until all things are fulfilled. They are my chosen people, the elect.
Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative. and I don't expect any response unless the Lord leads you to respond. I just wanted to share this definition of GENEA with you. If it did refer to years, I would agree with you on the number 70. But then again, we've passed that date also. Have a very blessed day!
[Itsme Thistime on Jeremiah 24]
Mark 13:28 Christ tells us "Learn the parable of the fig tree" letting us know that it is imperative that those who follow Him learn this scripture. This let's us know we are in the last generation RIGHT NOW, because Judah had not been in Jerusalem since before Christ was born, until 1948 when they were aloud to return after WWII. To rephrase for better understanding, this parable let's us know that the end wouldn't come until Judah returned to Jerusalem. Judah was taken captive by the babylonians hundreds of years before Christ was on the earth, and had not returned until May 15, 1948, signifying the beginning of the last generation, or "the generation of the fig tree".
I asked a Jewish scholar how long a generation is, according to Jews. It's 70 years.
Mishael
I don't want to argue generation time frames, please. Thanks :)
When we die it is the same as when we sleep, we are not conscious, we are asleep in Jesus, Psalm 146:4 Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 we have no knowledge of our surroundings or time. This is the spirit that goes back to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
1 Thessalonians 4:14, when Jesus returns, this earth is round and those that are Christs will come from all over, and we see different places describing the gathering, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 along with Jesus, God brings those that are Christs with Him, the second coming back to earth to set up the kingdom on earth. I understand those who believe in the rapture being carried to heaven will disagree.
Soul; Hebrew, nephesh, meaning a soul, living being animal or human, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. Greek psuch meaning, life, as the seat of affections and will, the self, the conscience, the individual. In our conscience that is in our soul is where the battle of the desires of the flesh and the Spirit. This is what remains asleep in the grave where ever the grave may be, awaiting resurrection when we put on immortality. Psalms 49:15 John 5:28-29
When are we absent from this body? 2 Corinthians 2:6-10 When do we appear at the judgment seat? 1 Thessalonians 2:19 1 Corinthians 15:22-23. When is a corn plant absent from its seed is it not when it springs forth from its grave of the earth? We are sown and until we are resurrected, being changed like the corn seed from corruption to incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality being freed from this body of corruption, then we will be present with the Lord.
Sorry I got wordy I am sure not all will agree but that is ok this is just what I see.
God bless us all in the love of Jesus.
RLW
Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) God is truth, according to John 4:24.
Anti-christ will appear in Jerusalem, performing miracles, FOOLING millions of who have not read the Lord's Holy Word.
I pray for them to embrace the TRUTH. Amen.
Matthew 24:29-35 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:"
Mark 13:26 - 13:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near, So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
Revelation is hard, for one, it is not in chronological order, and not all has been revealed to us. Pray and keep in mind there are answers we may never be given. At this time there have been 3.5 years of tribulation by Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the great whore Babylon, and Babylon was just destroyed by the ten kings/countries of the beast. ( Revelation 17, 18).
These same ten kings/kingdoms/countries will make war with Jesus, ( Revelation 17:14). They were rejoicing in heaven and "his wife hath made herself ready" and "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" ( Revelation 19:1-10).
In ( Revelation 19:11-21) we see Jesus coming with his armies, ( Matthew 25:31) that were in heaven, and the call to the fowls to gather to the supper of the great God. ( Ezekiel 39: 17-20) There are more scriptures on the coming of Jesus, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), and more. The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the remnant of the armies are destroyed by the sword proceeding out of the mouth of Jesus. The power of His word wiped them out.
Then in Revelation 20, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit, to be there for one thousand years, and Jesus sets up His Kingdom and the camp of the saints. So scripture tells us when Jesus returns with all His holy angels/armies, He sends angels to gather His elect. Who are in this first resurrection? The description of them is in ( Revelation 20:4). Are they all that will be saved? Are they the most loyal elect that is given this honor? The key is the white throne judgment, is it only for the lost as taught? Why is the book of life opened ( Revelation 20:12)? Should we not consider ( Matthew 25:31-46) ( John 5:28-29) ( Acts 24:15). Do we overlook ( Revelation 20:15)?
I know this does not answer your question, if it can be answered, but may it inspire study.
God bless,
RLW
Hey Sacha! My prayer is simple - all your inquiries are genuine and that you truly seek the truth. I say this because your questions remind me of the time that the apostle Paul was on Mars Hill in Athens ( Acts 17) talking to the people gathered there.
All of your questions are readily answered and covered in the scriptures. I recommend you read the KJV of the Bible. The questions you raised are not anything to be surprised at, nor to get excited about. You have not stated that you don't believe in the devil, just in a certain behavior by him.
I agree with you about hell, because there are the ignorant and sinners in heaven also (like me), and the demons don't do the torturing in hell.
I agree with you whole heartedly, that I too do not believe "any" will go to heaven, only a certain group (of which I am a part of).
As far as the scriptures you have referenced - Mark 13: 32 and Genesis 22- to truly understand them you must read and study it in its entirety. I mean the whole chapter should be read and especially the complete Bible.
However, truth cannot be understood unless you have the same mind as the Author of the Scriptures. You must be born again to understand the whole counsel of the Lord God Jesus Christ.
From your other posts on this forum, you seem to be knowledgeable of the Words of God. I thank you for your kind words of blessing from your god. I extend to you the blessings of the true God of the Scriptures of whom I serve. May His face shine on you and your family.
September 20, 2021
John 14:1-3
Luke 10:20
Mark 13: 32-37
Revelation 3: 10
Matthew 24: 1-51
Philippians 3:20-21
Romans 8: 18-19
Acts 1: 7-11
Daniel 12: 1-2
1 Corinthians 15: 51-53
1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18
Revelation 12: 1-17
Revelation 19: 1-21
1 John 1: 3:3
Titus 2:13
Matthew 16:27
Colossians 3:2-4
Luke 21: 34-36
James 4:8
Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25
John 3:16
We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.
On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)
Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.
FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.
[hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,
Mishael
Part II
(B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming
TheSecondComing, According to Prophecy:
(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORDOf lords, Is Coming From Heaven! ( Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11)
(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! ( Revelation 19:12-15)
(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! ( Revelation 19:12-15)
(4) CHRIST Is Coming ALL THE WAY To the earth"WithAllOf His holy angels," In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations ( Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)
(5a) Angels "gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom" to be cast into the furnace of fire! ( Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43)
(5b) Angels "gather the elect"... ( Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27)
(6)...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! ( Matthew 25:31-46)
(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! ( Matthew 25:34-46)
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:
The Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenlyMystery!:
to be continued in Part III
The gathering, the second coming of Jesus, ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13) ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1) (Corinthians 15:51-54) we also see in ( Matthew 24:29-31) ( Mark 13: 24:27). The Rapture as taught, Christ comes and takes the Church to heaven before the great tribulation.
Simple question, where is the destination after we meet Jesus in the air? Does the scriptures say He takes us to heaven? Is there at least one clear scripture without philosophical interpretation saying we are taken or we go to heaven?
God bless,
RLW
Sorry, but I am not a prepper and do not plan to bug out. What, three of your so-called prophecy experts? Don't know where that came from. I guess it was brotherly love how you placed me outside of "those of us, In The Body Of CHRIST". You must have a picture painted in your mind that clearly shows you who I am and what I believe, quite haughty and discerning!
I admire you took the time to list all the scripture, assuming I do not know them or follow them. But I am also watching, and waiting patiently for the coming of our Lord Jesus as He told us to do. ( Mark 13:33-37) Jesus also said take heed that no man deceive you. ( Matthew 24:4)
It is clear you believe in the seven-year end-time teaching with the Church gathering and taken to heaven but I don't. To discuss it would be endless because you seem pretty dogmatic. What I see in scripture does not support that belief and what I meant is to be ready, strong in our faith, and ready to face what is coming before the return of our Lord Jesus.
If someone's hope is to be spared the tribulation that is coming and are here when it starts, will their faith be strong enough, some will, but sadly many will not. Jesus did say after the tribulation of those days. That is what I meant by being prepared.
RLW
Many do not believe we will be here; it is the gathering of the Church (rapture). I believe scripture tells us if we are living, we will be here and we must be prepared, but you can study that for your conscience. We see in Revelation 12 and 13 when Satan is cast down permanently to earth with no more access to heaven. Satan is standing on the sand of the sea when the first beast ascends out of the sea (bottomless pit). ( Revelation 11:7) ( Revelation 17:8) Satan gives his seat, authority, and power to this beast, and this beast makes war against the saints and prevails. People on earth will worship Satan and this beast because of the power that will be shown, the world will be incapable to make war against it.
The second beast (false prophet) rises and creates an image of the first beast and causes people to worship the image and take the mark. He deceives people with great wonders, miracles, and power in the sight of the first beast. So being in the sight of the first beast appears the two beasts are here during the same time.
This mark is not something that you will not know you are taking, whoever takes this mark will willingly take it and whoever does not worship that image and take the mark will be killed, scary thought but true. Anyone whose name is written in the Lambs book of life will not worship the beast or image and will not take the mark.
Have peace in your heart, the Holy Spirit in us will make it crystal clear what will be happening and we will overcome the hour of temptation. ( Revelation 3:10). This is going to be the darkest time so far on earth and many to most of us in Christ who are still living will be killed. Jesus said after the tribulation of those days. ( Matthew 24:29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27)
Pray and Study, trust the Holy Spirit of truth.
RLW