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Do you think some of us take this book a little too seriously?

If you have put your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and believe that God has raised him from the dead, you are already baptized in the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 3:16; Acts 11:15-17; 1 Corinthians 12:3 and 12:13; 1 John 5:1). All of 1 Corinthians chapter 12 is instructive in the working of the Spirit in Christ's body, the Church.

In John 14:16-18 and in John chapter 16, Jesus promises the Comforter will be sent to dwell with and in his disciples after he returns to the Father. The mission of the Comforter is to reprove the world of sin, righteousness and judgement. As the Spirit of truth, he guides Jesus' followers in all truth, not promoting himself, but glorifying Jesus Christ and the things of Christ.

Romans chapter 8 teaches us about walking in the Spirit after we've learned the hard lesson of our weakness in the flesh as found in Romans 7.

The book of Colossians and 2 Peter chapter 1 are a couple of fine prescriptions for aligning yourself to spiritual living.

How can I be baptized in the holy Spirit and also be filled with the holy Spirit

I need also to walk in the spirit

Some time ifeel so weak to pray

I need to be help

In reference too, Luke 12 read Luke 11 2-4 We have pray repeatedly, until Jesus return.

How do I feel about Luke 12:9? "But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God."

I've heard this twisted before and some will say that if you don't confess Christ publicly that you are denying Him. That is not what it says!

This is important to understand. The word "deny," ARNEOMAI, means to reject. The early church believers were put in a position where they either had to confess that Jesus is Lord or that Caesar is lord.

And by doing that, they would be denying that Jesus is Lord. So in order for this to be true, one of two things has to happen. You have to confess Jesus, or, you have to deny Him, reject Him!

Have you rejected Him? I haven't!

I will answer your last question on Romans 12:2 next.

How do I feel about James 2:17-26? If we are talking about faith without works is a dead faith, then I totally agree. But to understand what it means, you have to have an understanding of what the bible means by faith. Please give me your definition of faith. You and I cannot produce the faith the bible speaks of. All we can produce is flesh. The faith the bible speaks of is spiritual faith. Only God's Spirit can produce spiritual faith ( Galatians 5:22). The works that come from us come from the persuasion of God's Spirit persuading us to do those things. But it is His work, not ours. He gets all the glory. ( Ephesians 2:8-9).

Again, due to space, I'll answer your other questions on John 14:15, Luke 12:9, and Romans 12:2 next.

Hi Jesse, is your position that Christians never commit blasphemy of the holy spirit? or that they are incapable to? or they don't have the freewill to?

The Bible says even angels in heaven sinned, because they too have freewill in heaven. Humans have the same freewill, and Christians have the same freewill, do they not? Unfortunately some Christians have turned to evil and denounced faith in Jesus and committed blasphemy of the holy spirit, do you recognize this? Judas did that.

What is your reason for living life as a Christian or trying to be obedient to Jesus, if it has nothing to do with going to heaven?

Hebrews 10:26 You said doesn't refer to salvation, except it does. Have you read the whole chapter? How do you feel about James 2:17-26 or John 14:15, or Luke 12:9?

Many verses say Christians are to be obedient, but are you saying obedience or transforming isn't needed to enter heaven? Do you think there's no downside to Christians following the world of sin? Romans 12:2

Peter you are right it was the Pharisees who had Jesus killed. Why you wonder

Luke 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he (Jesus) began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Matthew 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Read Matthew 23 sometime and see what Jesus had to say to their man made rules and practices.

John 8 is another eye opener. Jesus hated hypocrisy and traditions that made the Laws of God void.

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven. --- You can be forgiven if you speak against the Son but if you blaspheme against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven. You may be able to deny or speak bad things against the Son but be careful how you treat the Spirit of God.

It might be a good time to mention what is the UNFORGIVABLE sin?
Scriptures>>Mark: 28-29, Luke 12:10 and Matthew 12:31-32
BLASPHEMY against the HOLY SPIRIT

How does this happen?
Rejecting salvation repeatedly from Jesus. Your heart hardens like a rock.

The Bible says blasphemy against the holy ghost is unforgivable. Matthew 12:31-32 and Luke 12:10. Presumably everything else can be forgivable, even killing, as that's that Paul did, for example.

Hello Adam,

In Luke 12:10 those who were following Jesus did not have the Holy Spirit. He came after Christ's ascension. In John Chapter 7, Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes, He will convict the world of sin and of judgment and of righteousness.

The Holy Spirit comes and convicts a person of their need of Christ. When a person, in their actions and in their attitudes, they speak against or react toward the Holy Spirit and reject Him, then their life is in a position where it cannot be forgiven, even with Jesus dying on the cross.

A saved person has God's Spirit permanently dwelling in them. As long as we have His Spirit, we have Salvation, and He has promised to never leave

Hello, what is your take on blasphemy of the holy spirit? Luke 12:10, 1 John 3:6. Since Jesus warned his followers (Christians) to not blasphemy, and since Jesus said it's unforgivable, how do you reconcile this with the belief that a Christian can't lose salvation?

Betty, this is a hot issue.
Malachi 3:10-12
Mathew 6:1-4
Luke 11:41-42
Luke 12:33-34
Hopefully that helps

Your words touched my heart and I feel I've been down the same road. God bless you for your words and heart .

All Love is given to those who Love others. Never take anyone personnel that does or talks against you. Always carry God's Love in your heart so you can show His Love in you to them. Always keep the Faith inside you that He will lead you to others in need of His Love you carry from Him. Never forsake Others- - for your Heavenly Father never forsakes you. Keep your Father close always! Much Love!!!

God is with us! No matter how alone you feel- God is next to you listening and knowing what to do to better your life with His Light of Strength. His Love will show through others. For He will constantly be close with His Love by your Faith you show Him. Fight against the World's Ways. Turn a bad situation into a Godly situation. And show someone else needy His Love for them!! In return Praise!!

Lord show me your strength- - your will-- change my Life for the better with your Love and Compassion you have always given me for helping others. For my final Destiny will be from you!!!

God is good always. Alone l have stood. Strong in Him. Helping others throughout my life. He put me through most of my life in hardships and alone. So l learned myself to be led by Him in what to do in any given situation. Never in the worlds way- only God's way. Now through looking inside first l can help in about any situation with understanding. My writings show what l went through- 50 years! !

Thank you Marilyn, for your words have encouraged me, and the Word of God in Chapter 12, really spoke directly yo my need. I thank God for restoring my soul as well as my physically healing. Please continue to pray for and with me, as I seek Him the more for me husband children family Body of Christ sinners black sliders. I long for his restoration since my illness. Thanks again for all comments.

This really Blessed me and spoke personally to me. I woke up at 3am and could not go back to sleep. As I do often I get up and read online scripture, as some of us are reading a chapter of Luke each day until the 24th of December. As I had Brain Surgery Aug. 5,6, 2015, it left be paralyzed from waist down. I had to learn to set up, walk all over again. My hair has not grown back and when that.....

there are many poor who labor hard with very little in return. But Jesus did speak quite a bit on this, Luke 6: 21-22 Luke 12: 32-34, Hebrews 1:3. There are many weak in spirit as well, that need to hear the truth of the Love of God and he sees them right where they are he is with them, and they are not forgotten in his eyes, we too should be more like God he teaches us to be humble, feed them

Truth is in his word. As long as there are those that believe his word is inspired, the inspiration of the holy ghost is the very soul of who our god is! For example, Be not deceived god is not mocked, or slack as some men count slackness. Christ wants your love . He is our "on time God". Ever present, omnipresent, omniscient,omnipotent. HOLY,HOLY,HOLY. Take his yoke upon you, let him lead you ...

People still have freewill to commit blasphemy and denounce Christ after becoming a Christian, which Luke 12:10 clearly says such a person will not be forgiven of their sins. Sadly some use verses to justify disobeying God's commands and living by the flesh, which is the opposite of what the Bible says. Luke 12:5

In your life there are always 2 voices you here. One voice of defeat and one of faith. You are the one who gets to choose which voice comes into your Life. The way-- You speak it out of your own mouth. When you speak Faith, you are in agreement with God.When you speak defeat, you are in agreement with the enemy. Don't listen to the Enemy- talk. You can stop it, by choosing the voice of Faith!!!

My Father in Heaven-- Hollow be thy Name. That prayer will get you His attention,as would Psslm 23. It is the total respect of understanding who your Father really is to you. He always wants the best for you. The enemy the worse for you. So what are you waiting for? Get on your knees and show your Love for him as he Loves you. Read His Holy Book-- the Bible. Learn to Live by His standards. Always!

To Live in God's World is what He always wanted us to do. But instead for many others-- they choose the evilness of this world. There is such a difference between the two. In God we put our trust in Him to lead us. In the world's way of Satan'- he is close by trying to destroy. Well, you become one of God's warrior's fighting for others rights too-- as you do for yourself. For God is the Glory!!!

So many hurting people around. Am worn sometimes by the hurting spirits they carry. I try to picture them younger--Carefree and happy. It makes me smile when l do. Then l open up my thoughts to reality, and see how they have become. In these days it seems everything is being exposed for what it is. God wants a decision on what side you will walk in the ending of your life. So- get on your knees!!!

What a wonderful blessed word . Jesus always tells us exactly how to get ready. I enjoy the Parables because those are life lessons. My Prayer is to be ready when God sends for me. I never go to bed or wake up in the morning ask for mercy, love , happiness each day. I pray about myself and everyone else. I have had so Many prayers answered. My have I had so many healings. I want to live.

True Glenn, my first Bibles did help me to understand some of God's Truth but after Asking for and Receiving His Wisdom He lead me to use the KJV and I have very much Appreciated that it doesen't compromise God's Truth by sharing Mankind's limited Understanding and their Wordly wisdom.Yes it's been a Needed and a Wonderful Blessing sharing with other Christians on this Website. Blessings-Anne.