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Hi Ilya , it doesn't sound to me as if you like the Bible very much . If you have come on here to shake the faith of those of us who do like it , you will have to do much better than that . Good luck .

Ilya. You're referring to the wrong book. The Bible doesn't speak of 'space/outer space', because these words were unknown then. The Web tells me the following: "The expression outer space was used as an astronomical term by Alexander von Humboldt in 1845. It was later popularized in the writings of H. G. Wells in 1901."

So, if you want to see more about outer space or "the heavens" in the Bible, then T. Levis has given you many verses to work through.

Please excuse the incorrect scriptures that were irrelevant. There is an error that has been occuring lately with alteration of my noted scriptures.

You are welcome to use searching boxes for additional research on this issue.

You just want an argument. I spent my time volunteering, studying the scriptures, freely; to help you. To point out scriptures for you to clearly show you GOD's infallible WORD points out the earth being round & rotation around in orbital circuit) before science ever could imagine. I am actually very interested in interstellar activity & scientific planetary discovery. We follow it rather closely. That's why I was quick to jump at your questions. (while everyone else skipped it)

The more I study GOD's WORD the more I am in awe of how much it really does say about space. I just recently found the scripture that I noted earlier That the heaven belongs to GOD but the earth ._to/for man. I would love to see a base on the moon & other planets, however that scripture hit me hard. It is GOD's not man's, what an amazing privilege to allow us to explore, yet very difficult, costly etc. i.e. The spacesuits needed for the moon trip won't even be ready for the scheduled & approved, expected missions of 2024! The more I study & witness history I've seen the Bible doesn't contradict science, science over time ends up proving the Bible is true & even logical reasons for GOD's laws.

Whenever you really would like answers for questions in life, the WORD, prayer, truth = we are here 24/7

Genesis 1:16 Just refering to God making lights in the firmament of heaven, not a word about space

1 Cor 15:14 Nothing to do with space

Genesis 2:4 Not related at all

Psalms 115:16

16The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

"the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?"

What? Scripture is not for private interpretation.

None of the rest of the verses have at all any implication of space, please point me the exact words or phrase, where the existence of space is even remotely implied. I will point you to exact words where space is outright denied, in a second.

But some of the verses you provided actually hint at the solid nature of heavens.

Isaiah 40:

"Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?"

First of all, not a word about other planets, second "meted out heaven with the span". It's impossible to measure something with a span that is not solid.

Job 22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

Space has no height, it stretches in all directions, solid heavens have height.

Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble

How something not solid can tremble?

Now I assure you, there's plenty of scripture that directly states, that the earth is flat, unmovable, and there's no space or other planets, but I would like you to debunk first this one please:

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Where are the waters above?

Genius 1:16

Amos 5:8

1 Corinthians 15:14

Genius 2:4

Psalms 115:16 (space) the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?

Psalms 147:4

Psalms 136:9

Revelation 6:13

Job 25:5

Job 9:7

Job 22:12

Psalms 8:3

Joel 2:10 Eclipse? Ezekiel 32:7 , Isaiah 50:3

Isaiah 13:10

Isaiah 40::22

Hopefully these scripture verses help you better research the Bible & what more it says about Earth, and space. There are more.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

This site promotes the falsehood of "space".

You are replying to a comment by "Pst. Onyi Egbu"

Hello Onyi,

If the verse doesn't say we don't know.

however, what we do know is in Exodus 6 Moses

told Jehovah God ( psalm 83:18) that he was circumcised in lips.

Moses felt that his speech was cut off. you can think of someone with a stuttering

defect. sometimes in old age people voice is choppy or weak. especially some more then others at the age of 100 years old or more.

What the bible does tells us is that Moses was 120 years

old when he died. Deuteronomy 31:2,14; Joshua 1:2

Ii timothy 2:15

TO PATRICIA: if God has called you to do something, He will give you the strength to do it. Even when the flesh is weak, the Spirit is strong! Trust in Him. I don't know your situation, but I know that God's Word and daily fellowship with Him through prayer is the only way to communicate your feelings to God and for Him to talk to you. He hears your prayers if you are in fellowship with Him! He can give you strength, even when the journey is tough. He will help you not to be afraid. "What time I am afraid, I will trust in thee." Trusting God solves almost every problem in the Christian life. He knows what is best, even when we don't. Trust Him on the day to day basis; walk with him, and He will show Himself real and true to you even more than you could have imagined! The journey is real; we all face the same struggles in different ways.

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go." - Joshua 1:9

"The Lord is my refuge and strength, an ever present help in troublesome times. Therefore will I not fear, though the earth move and the mountains are cast into the sea." I hope this is a blessing to you! I will pray for you!

Perhaps Great way to get to the Truth in a scripture when there is a debatable topic is to consider ALL the scripture, especially the ones directly associated with the topic.

If you don't believe a scripture is saying what your counterpart is saying, ( Explain what it do mean, Don't treat it like it don't exist.)

See what it's saying in the original language.

And see if it Line up with the 66 books.

For example:

Revelation 1:8 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, ""the Almighty."

Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ""The mighty God,""

""The everlasting Father,"" The Prince of Peace.

And these 2 out of Malachi:

Malachi 2:17 (KJV) Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

Malachi 3:1 (KJV) Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Don't just Argue your points, Give your interpretation to the other viewers point.

Hi Robert.

I just perceived you was preparing to debate the topic, I just wanted you to state your case, There's others that would love to engage in a humble dialog with you if you wish to.

Let's not forget Love, Humility and Meekness is a fruit of the spirit. And the scripture says you shall know them by their fruit.

God blessings to you.

Robert,

To be "born again", resurrected whole, you'd have to die first, or else remain a born again sinner.

Robert, there are so many testimonies of those who were blind and now can see and the evidence is seen by others in their regenerated and believing lives now in peace with God and man. Likely you have seen this evidence here and there in this earth.

Carleton

Robert,

I completely agree that God does not change, and neither does His word. It is man who has changed God's word and that is what I mean when I say that the tongues that are being taught today are not the tongues of the bible.

The first mention of people receiving the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues is in Acts Chapter 2. But the tongues they were speaking were actual known languages, not the babbling sounds that people are uttering today when they "speak in tongues."

We know that the apostles when they spoke in tongues in Acts Chapter 2 that they were speaking in known languages because those that heard them understood them clearly. They didn't need anyone to interpret because they understood the tongues (languages) that were being spoken to them. The apostles were speaking in the exact dialect of those that were there listening.

The apostles didn't know the languages. But God gave them that ability to speak those various languages in order for them to not only preach the gospel message to those who had come from various places, but to show them that what they were hearing had to be from God because they knew that the apostles had no way of knowing how to speak their language so perfectly. It was a sign to those who heard them speak. The apostles were in compliance with 1 Corinthians 14:22. I wish churches today would do the same.

As far as "tongues" goes, I don't see any resemblance in what's going on in the church today with what was taking place in the early church when the Holy Spirit first came.

God gave Paul the ability to speak in tongues (known languages) more than others as you mentioned. But maybe the reason for that was because God sent Paul to many places to preach the gospel, and he needed the ability to speak in various languages.

Paul never placed very much emphasis on speaking in tongues (languages), but rather that men would prophesy, meaning that they would speak forth the word of God in order to build up the church.

The way I understand, speaking in tongues is the evidence (proof) of receiving the Holy Spirit. How e!se

Can you be sure your have been born again?

Can you prove to Me I'm wrong?

Robert.

You're right, God's the same and his word is the same, "Whats being taught is different"

This has recently been an ongoing topic on the site, and one that often comes up.

How about you give us your take.

You say the tongues that are being taught today are different than the tongues taught in the Bible. God is the same yesterday today and forever and so is his word. Paul Said he rather speak a language that would Edify the church than speak in tongues but he also said he spoke in tongues more than anyone.

Tell me what denomination ever speaks in tongues.

Robert,

I also do not agree that everyone who received the Holy Spirit spoke in tongues. As Spencer mentioned, Paul asks the question "Do all speak in tongues?" And in the Greek text, it expects the negative answer no. Paul is referring to believers, those who have received the Holy Spirit. Not all spoke in tongues.

Your question is "How do modern pastors omit Acts 2:4?" No pastor should have the right to omit that verse. But when I look at the verses that follow and see what actually was taking place, it's easy to conclude that the tongues that are being taught in the church today are not the tongues that the bible teaches. In Acts 2:4, the "all" is referring to the apostles that were told to wait for the coming of the Holy Spirit, not every believer.

Hi Robert,

Not everyone in the New testament.

Read 1st Corinthians ch12 and ch 13.

Thanks. God bless you

My morning meditation.

The remnant of the Circumcision that were turned from unbelief to Faith in Jesus Christ, as a witness to each other and even for the Gentiles that the power of God to cover sin in Jesus Christ death and resurrection was true. Together those of the Circumcision when they spoke in tongues now by Faith, groaned in understanding of how God led them from darkness to the light of the new Covenant. The Gentile's faith began after this understanding was known first to the Jews. This faith was grafted onto broken branches by those who would not. Our understanding as ones who were grafted into adoption by the Father is mercy and our answer is more clear in our voice that other Gentiles can understand. Thank you Jesus. Amen.

Hello Peter,

You have come to the right place. There are many people very learned in the Scriptures here on this site that very much enjoy answering question and helping others in need. If you have any questions please post and we will try to help you along in your journey reading the Holy Bible.

God Bless.

My comment is that, I am in dial need to be guided through as I make effort to be able to have proper grasp of the content of the bible as I go along with maximum support from people who know better.

Verse 16- the people agreed to do all that Joshua had commanded. Unfortunately, over time they forgot their vow and proved to be disobedient.

Verse 2-Jehovah God has always made sure that his people have been given direction and guidance through men that he had appointed.

Revelation 22:13

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

That said , Jehovah has no beginning nor ending. The Holy Spirit always was.

The Son of God, Jesus Christ, however; was born of a virgin - Matthew 1:18

when was god born

I am currently taking a scripture memory course ( Navigators topical memory system)

I have committed the first five of sixty verses required to successfully complete the course to memory

I am now working on the memorization of Joshua 1:8

Please pray for the ability to be able to know this awesome verse so well that it will be said in conversation with anyone.

I must say it seems to be a great challenge.

Anyone here committed this verse to memory?

Amen, well said Suzanne.

Ive just been reading through comments and questions etc ,im not a great typist so please forgive me ,there is so much i could and want to say but i will stick to main points ,first if english is your 2nd language you really need to read the Bible in your 1st language ,second i have been reading Bible 4 over 25yrs every day and i know ive read it all over 50 times ,u must read it all ,i am still learning and discovering new things in it ,u will not understand everything immediately ,it reveals itself slowly and all of it is neccessary and it interprits itself ,u must b very patient ,determined and persistant ,your faith grows with your understanding .God is love .