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"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"
Everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels in form us that the law of sin is invented by Satan, the father of lies. Who are the cursed but who has despised the word of God? "Jesus explains with emphasis, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."( John 8:34)
The Law with which God runs his kingdom knows no other law than that of the Spirit. He framed the worlds by the word of God so the world made to appear shall be founded on the Law of the Spirit. Consequently those who are blessed under the everlasting covenant do so by faith. Faith is one. The parallel world of the law of sin is a make-believe world is under judgment. "But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."(2 Pe.3:7;Is.66:15)
The Spirit of God presents us the God document where the everlasting covenant is stated in plain terms. How is that the blessing mentioned in Ge.1:28 fas been totally missed? Where did this spiritual amnesia occur so blessing whenever is mentioned is associated with Abraham rather than tJesus Christ? In the manner the imposter churches have supplanted the truth to establish Israel as a blessed nation proves the condemnation of Jesus. It is done in bad faith "Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me./Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word./Ye are of your father the devil,"(8:42-44)
The Law does not recognise nations per se but children of light or children of disobedience. Eternal fire is reserved for them. "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."(25:46)
"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies".
We benefit from divine revelation. When we received the good news we fulfilled one part of the Law which called forth a world unseen. The World made to appear shall be on the eternal will of God, the template of Truth and righteousness. The Law of the Spirit does not accept the law of sin. So we can safely say the wicked are estranged from the womb of Time. So you and you did not simply lurch into this world by some happy coincidence. When we received the truth we accepted the path of righteousness
" And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose./For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son."(Ro.8:28-29)
The Law of the Spirit is to establish the holiness of the Lord. So there is a purpose when the word of God says, "Be ye holy, for I am holy." It is the Law so nowhere in his kingdom the wicked who tells lies may hide, as Jonah tried to hide among the sailors of the ship bound for Tarshish.Can anyone escape from God? The wicked follow the law of sin and they are judged as unfit for the purpose even before they were born. It is what the story of Jacob and Esau teaches.""Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."(Mal.1:3)
" Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:/According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love"
Who is the father of lies? Satan of course. There is no truth in him.( John 8:44)Jesus faulted the Jews who rejected him. They were a wicked lot. ": yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil ."
We do see this one differently. I see Jesus using the title of God for Himself, claiming to be the great I AM of the OT, just as He did in John 8:58.
Thank you for taking the time time to read these things I am sharing and blessings to you also!
"Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word./With my whole heart have I sought thee"
Whatever you do do it with whole heart is a very simple and powerful principle, in secular as well as in our spiritual context. Of the latter is our focus here. "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;/ Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ."(Col.3:23-24) St Paul wrote these in a pagan world in which the early church was made up of the oppressed class and proselytes from the Jews or the Gentiles. The question of slavery has been present where the Law of sin made those who lived after the flesh were servants while the Law made man free. "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."(Ro.8:13). So slavery is actually a question of perspective. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."( John 8:32). In the same time there were Judaizers among the early church who sowed heresy, "And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage."(Gal.2:4;Ac.15:1,24). These are the sons of Belial who serves Satan to trouble the pure conscience of those who follow Law of the Spirit. "Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known."(De.13:13) In the modern context slavery is abolished by laws of nations but do we not see it yet very much encouraged when false ministers invoke Christian nationalism? Christian parents who ought to inculcate their children to follow this freedom should first set the example:"With my whole heart have I sought thee"" Will all those who have, please take a bow.
"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held." The Spirit shows the temple of God as was in the divine Will to which we could after a similitude set our own body as a living sacrifice. Conclusion is unambiguous. By making man a living soul God has set the context that shall never change. The problem with the nation of Israel was as Jesus faulted them, "but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you."( John 8:37) God commanded how they were to worship him (De.6:6;16:16) " and they shall not appear before the LORD empty." Their heart was not right before God. Consequently the list of martyrs that Jesus refers can go on and the genocidal policies of the nation at present going on in Gaza is just that. How can anyone with good conscience condone it? Yet we see arm merchants doing a roaring sale,- business is business, with one hand and with the other drawing redlines. Who is fooling whom? "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."( John 8:44) The Law of the Spirit and law of sin cannot be compromised. There is only one solution lest the law of sin should ever rear its head in the heart. "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service./And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." (Ro.12:1-2) For God is the judge. "Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice." (Ps.50:5)
John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Literally, "Before Abraham was in existence, I AM in existence!" Before Abraham was in existence, I was already in existence, and always had been. The "I AM" of the Old Testament!
John 9:27 - He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
It says, "will you also be his disciples? In the Greek text it expects the answer no.
John 9:34 - They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.
That is the official term for excommunication. They kicked him out!
John 9:40 - And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
The Greek text says that they expected the answer no. We are not blind also are we, looking to Jesus?
John 10:1 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Thief and robber, very interesting words in the Greek text! The reason why there are two different words here that pretty much represent the same thing is because there are two different words in the Greek New Testament.
Some people get confused about this. They believe that that Jesus died between two thieves, but in the NIV, in the gospel of John, it says that He died amongst criminals, which is true. It doesn't say anything about thieves.
Well, Matthew, Mark and Luke, they mention the fact that He died amongst robbers. That is where we get that part of it. The only difference between a thief and a robber is that a thief will steal by stealth or by deception. A robber does it by force. So, thieves and robbers, these are depicted in the Jewish proverb as false Christ's and false teachers.
John 8:24 - I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye do not believe that I AM, and even though it says "he" at the end, the Greek text just says "I AM." It is the name of God in Exodus 3:14, when Moses was going to go to Pharaoh and say, "God says let my people go," and they ask, "Well what is your name, what do I tell them?" God says tell them I AM has sent you, the eternally existent one! Unless you believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.
John 8:27 - They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
I think it's very interesting, and just to point out a technical point, there at the end where it says, "of the Father," it is just "the Father."
"They understood not that He spoke to them the Father." He gave them and spoke the Father to them, not Himself!
John 8:31 - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Then said Jesus to those Jews who had believed on him, and the word "believed" is a Perfect Tense. They were in a condition of belief. If you continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and the word "indeed" in Greek is the word genuine. If you continue in my word, (remain in it, dwell in it), then you are my genuine disciples;
John 8:43 - Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
The word "cannot" in Greek is the word ability or capacity. You do not have the capacity to hear my word. In 1 Corinthians 2:14, Paul says that the natural man cannot understand the things of God, and the Holy Spirit comes and reveals the deep things of God.
Only the person who has the Spirit of God can understand the things of God. The natural man does not understand spiritual things. So, Jesus is telling them that in your natural unbelieving state, you are not able to hear my word.
John 7:35 - Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?
These are called the Hellenists in the Greek text. They are talking about the Jews who have left Jerusalem and gone to live in Greek communities. They are Greek speaking Jews. And so, they are saying "Is He going to go amongst the Gentiles and teach the Gentiles," but they are making reference to Hellenists. That is a title for the Greek speaking Jews.
John 7:37 - In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
So, on this last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood, and it is interesting that the word "stood" is a Perfect Tense meaning He had been standing through the entire ceremony.
John 7:51 - Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?
The Greek text causes us to expect the answer no. Or yes, our law does let a man present himself, but no, our law does not judge a man before it hears him or knows what he does.
John 8:2 - And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
Now the word "came," again is in the Imperfect Tense. They were flowing, people were just flowing to come and see Him, crowds of people, and He sat down and taught them. That is the position of the Rabbi. The Rabbi would always sit down to teach.
John 8:10 - When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
The word "condemned" in the Greek (KATEKRINEN) is a judicial term meaning "passed sentence." Has no one passed sentence on you?
From then until today around 6000 years have passed, and the world of the Devil we are seeing turned to a gigantic and complex, and satanic structure in every sense as we can see, dominating the minds of the inhabitants of the Earth as a whole as he dominated he mind of Cain, very terrible, the ONLY exception are the chosen ones of GOD, they have believed in JESUS- John 17:1-12, and according to the Ephesians 1:3-8, among many biblical references.
But our Lord JESUS assured: Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. This assertion of our Lord JESUS, combined with Revelation 11:15-18 and Revelation 12 as a whole, give us what will happen now, from now on, even now in the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millennium.
GOD BLESS
Get ready
Based in the Word of GOD,our Lord JESUS had already fasted 40 days.Mat.4:2:When JESUS had fasted forty days and forty nights,He was AFTERWARD an hungred.
Thus,we can see that the comment posted doesn't fit or applys not in any case you have conjectured in the first phrase of your post.
You said"you agree that eating is not a sin".Depend:Whom bread do you eat from?Scriptures explain:Prov.20:17Bread of deceit(BREAD OF THE LIE)is sweet to a man;but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel.By the way, Satan is the father of lie-Jo.8:44.
In the other hand,JESUS said:Jo.6:32-34:
32-...Moses gave you not that bread from heaven;but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
33For the bread of GOD is He which comes down from heaven,and gives life unto the world.
34Then said they unto JESUS,Lord,evermore give us this bread.
You said"Satan was testing JESUS out to see who He is,to learn more about Him,to see what His vulnerabilities may be".What does the Word of GOD say,GIGI? Ezekiel 28:3 reveals that Satan is wiser than Daniel;there is no secret that can hide from him.
Satan kews JESUS so well, and also HE knew all the people of Israel( John 8:44), Satan knew the people of Israel had reject JESUS, by the way, all the people of Israel had(and still have)a STONY HEART, having the own Satan as father, said JESUS- John 8:44.
That said, Satan challenged JESUS to transform the people of Israel in bread, saying to JESUS:If thou be the Son of GOD, COMMAND that these stones be made bread.
Paul Apostle said:1Co.10:16-17
16The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
17For we being many ARE ONE BREAD,and one body:for we are all partakers of that one bread(body of Christ JESUS,our Lord)
Re.2:24-25
24But unto you I say,and unto the rest in Thyatira,as many as have not this doctrine,and which have not known the depths of Satan,as they speak;I will put upon you none other burden.
25But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
You misinterpreted my post to Momsage,and consequently accused me by saying"I have a knack of twisting words" what is not true once I sought the original source-GOD Himself,as a proof of my assertion, and you made a comparison of my zeal for the Word of GOD with a supposed zeal of Satan for the Word of GOD, saying unto me "You have a zeal so has Satan".You shouldn't never say Satan has zealous for the Word of GOD,what you say and wrote is not true,for the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, GOD is Truth,and Satan was a murderer from the beginning,and he NEVER abode in Truth,because there is no Truth in him.When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:for he is a liar,and the father of it- John 8:44KJV.
You said:
"Consider this in good spirit.You have a zeal so has Satan.But humility was never in him." But what do you consider a good spirit? For me a good Spirit and humility is GOD-JESUS, the Spirit of Truth, this explains why "humility was never in Satan" as you say.
You said: "Whether you are right or not, it would have given a shine to your Christian spirit to be gentle and considerate" But we cannot replace the Word of GOD, so let no man beguile you being puffed up by his fleshly mind.Take a look what happened with Peter being gentle- Matthew 16:22-23.
You said:"You told what you have settled as the truth. But is it truth?"
I showed what GOD said, GOD is Truth.
"And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."
Three things are associated with the Son who is always tagged as the right hand in context of God who is One. The hand with which is good and the left hand in common usage is qualified as maladroit. Can we apply it to God? Oh no. The Spirit uses the right hand figuratively in order to define the divine Will in fulfilment. "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." ( Mark 10:18).So we need see his ministry as deity and humanity is the aspect of perfecting what his Father has willed. "And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him."( John 8:29) Before Pilate he confesses the host of angels at his disposal."Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?" In his emptying his humanity was for delivering all whom his Father had left to his charge. So he would rather perfect with one sacrifice all those who were called.( John 17:12; He.10:14)
The book, the seven seals and the contents that it holds are three clues in which significance of their Association and with man, and also life as holiness, the name are inextricably bound.
"When he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." Jesus Christ as the Son has his seat. "and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." There are other feature we need consider, firstly "a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."and the Word both sound as well as sign, "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God."(Re.4:1-5) Body Spirit and the soul is signified in v.5:6
Jesus gave a definition, "because my word hath no place in you." ( John 8:37) He is a fool who rather cancel God from his calculations so he has a free hand to do evil. "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works,"(Ps.14:1). In Ps.119 we read, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."(v.11) The word of God is not simply word but the similitude of the Lord as God referred to Moses. It is abiding in Christ. Moses wanted to see the face of God which was not appropriate for him. Moses shall only see the back parts which from several other examples refers to the Advent of his Son. "And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by." (Ex.33:22) The slain Lamb is worthy to open the book "a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."(Re.5:1).This glory of God that was to follow already was in his heart. "to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." Moses was well aware of it." But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."(De.30:11-14). Coming back to the key verse the ungodly simply set the glory of God to nought.
Instead he preferred to sit with the babblers idling their time whose words would not even peel an onion; ungodly has counsel how to make his nation great but if you come anywhere near his orbit you may end up doing jail time, that is for sure; do not even stand among those who have plans to rid the 'vermins' rapists and undesirables from the border and little do they know they themselves will be knocking at the borders of the lands of others sooner or later." The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men."(Ps.11:4) The ungodly are the chaff, which the wind driveth away.'
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"Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened."
Three in the Parable indicates a sign or a tag which the Holy Spirit uses to signify the Son as a sign. So the leaven is the Gospel referring to Jesus Christ as the Word become flesh. Man who keeps the word is "after our likeness" so his soul and spirit and body, till the whole was leavened. Moses refers to this wholeness, and it shall be in thy heart,- "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."(De.6:5-6). The kingdom of God is about the fulness of God.
"All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them." (v.35)
Parables have the kingdom after our image so the wholeness is called a glorious body, "That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."(Ep.5:27)
Parables are the means to separate good from the tares and Us from Them.
"That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world"(v.35) This explains the "After our likeness" whereby the seven days carry signs that keep the Word and the Man as Associates as well as after a similitude. 'The seed in itself' on day three is with regards to the word of God. So Jesus faults the Pharisees,"But ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.:( John 8:37) and "But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up".(Matt.15:13) Jesus as a sign was in his birth as well.(Is.7:14). Parable keeps the leavening process across so Principle of Association is set forth in Matt.10:40. The Word as a seed after a similitude works Up and Down.
Part 3
These other things would be God, not the God of Scripture.
With the doctrine of simplicity, His immutability is one aspect of His divine simplicity. James 1:17 speaks of this when he says that in God there is no shadow of turning. This means that there is no changing in Him and no variation or alteration or degree or greater or lesser of anything of His Being. This tells us that God is not made of parts, that He is unable to be anything than what He is eternally and He is perfect in every possible way to be perfect.
Divine simplicity also speaks of God actually Being what He reveals of Himself and also what we have yet to know of Hm. He is all that He describes Himself to be. he does not have attributes or perfections, He is these. For instance, the Scriptures tell us that God is I AM (IS) saying that He is existence. (EX, 3:14) He says that He is life, ( John 14:6) along with the truth and way. God is light ( I John 1:5. God is Spirit John (4:24): God says, I am merciful, ( Ex. 22:27). John 11:25 Jesus say He is the Resurrection and the Life. These are just some of the examples where God equates His attributes with who He is not what He has.
Another aspect of God's uniqueness is that He is the only God that exists; no other God will be made or come into existence, nor was there any other God who preceded Him See Is. 46:9. Is.44:6-8; Is. 43:10-Isaiah, who saw the LORD (Jesus) on the throne in heaven in Is. 6; and John 8:38-41. This uniqueness as the one and only true divine being is the very basis of our faith.
Another aspect of God's uniqueness is His oneness- He is a unified single God who exists as three distinct persons-the Father, the Son, and the hoy Spirit who all three share the divine nature equally, eternally, and fully. I will speak more of this in my next post on "God is a UNITY".
God's uniqueness sets Him apart from all else. There is no one like Him!
Thank you for your reply, many consider this subject non-discussable.
As for Luke 15 and 16, if one takes this as a real story that would mean when we die, we go to Hades, the saved go to the good side and the lost are in the flames. I am sorry I do not see that in Scripture, this chapter is parables given to the Pharisees and scribes for their murmuring and their unrighteous love of mammon/money and their neglect of the true riches.
I understand you and others do not believe we sleep in death until the resurrection. The Greek philosophy of the meaning of death is the separation of the soul from the body, and our soul is immortal which was introduced into the Roman Church this is not from Scripture our soul can die, Daniel 12:2 1 Thessalonians 4:14, and many more.
The word Godhead is in the KJV 3 times, three different Greek words meaning Divine, Divinity, and Deity changed to Godhead in the 16th Century, which can be misleading. My understanding is Jesus's victory was not won until God raised Jesus from death. "His soul was proclaiming the truth to the lost in hades" I suppose this is from 1 Peter 3:18-20, nowhere does this say Jesus was in Hades, these are people before the flood and it also says it was after He was quickened by the Spirit, so He was not in the grave.
Ephesians 4:8 Jesus led captivity captive that is those in captivity of sin captive to Himself, not OT saints from the grave. If the OT saints were resurrected when He was why would He leave David, Acts 2:29-34 the Firstfruits will not be raised until Jesus returns.
In John 8:28 "When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he" Matthew 27:50-54 is the fulfillment. Jesus was in and out of consciousness on the cross when He cried out the word resurrection is a Greek word meaning waking up, all the things in 51-53 happened when Jesus died, the saints did not go to heaven they went into Jerusalem and appeared to many.
God bless,
RLW
Romans 5:12->by one MAN sin entered into the world, in the Garden of GOD,...yes, by one MAN sin entered in the world as a whole,and passed upon all men,so death passed upon all men,for that all have sinned, then, in consequence, the earth become without form and void because darkness fell upon the face of the earth as a whole, and it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, and men saw the daughters of men that they were fair; then they took them wives of all which they chose,and GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually, and the earth become a deep abyss. But the Word, the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,GOD is Spirit,self-executing,He did move among those which kept not their first estate,but left their own habitation, giving themselves over to fornication, so our GOD hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this Great Day,the LORD's Day,the seventh and last Day,or seventh and last millennium.They are set forth for an example of suffering of the vengeance of Eternal fire,GOD is a devouring fire.
Then our GOD,planned the restoration of all things- Acts 3:21-as they were in Eden before the sons of GOD had rebelled themselves and sinned.And the first thing our GOD made according to His Plan was to make again His Light shine in the darkness,so JESUS shouted loudly,saying:Let there be light,and there was light.And the Word,GOD the Father,saw the light,that it was good:and He divided the light from the darkness.In this point started a terrible battle against Satan in the first millennium,and our Omnipotent GOD even from a sinful nature brought forth a holy seed for Himself,Abel( Matthew 23:33-35combined with John 8:44-47).And Genesis 5:3-32 describe the generation of the holy seed of GOD,but until the law sin was in the world:but sin was not imputed when there was no Law.
GOD BLESS
That is a great question! I'm not sure what the right answer would be, but it seems as though you have answered your own question by stating that "Judas was a manifestation of perdition, just as Jesus was the manifestation of God."
The phrase "son of perdition" is a title. But there is no correlation between son of perdition and Son of God, even though the word HUOIS is used in both places. Since HUIOS is referring to a son who inherits the estate from his father, then what would be Judas' inheritance? Christ has inherited all things from the Father, and we are joint heirs with Christ.
It is interesting that there are only two people in the bible that are given the title "son of perdition," Judas Iscariot and the antichrist that is to come. This is who he (Judas) was and had been his entire life.
Jesus, speaking to the Pharisees in John 8:44 says, "You are of your father the devil." Physically they are from Abraham. Spiritually they are from the devil. Here in John 17:12, Judas is called the son of perdition. Physically, he was the son of Simon. But spiritually, he was the son of the devil.
Remember back in John Chapter 6 Verse 70, "Jesus answered them, have not I chosen you 12 and one of you is a devil," a demon. Jesus didn't choose Judas to be a devil. He says one of you is already a devil. I'm choosing you as already being a devil. This gives us a hint as to what Judas' inheritance will be!
The word HUIOS used by itself would not have triggered the Jewish leaders at that time. It was the entire phrase Jesus used by claiming to be the "Son of God" that the Jews considered blasphemous. To them, He was claiming to be God, which we know He truly is God come in the flesh. By Him claiming to be God, He was making Himself equal to God (which He is).
Blessings to you!
"But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils."
Blasphemy against the Spirit was not a single instance that can be levelled against the nation. In the Parable of the Wicked Tenants Jesus sums up"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."(Matt.21:43) As a nation they were unfit so Isaiah says, " Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint."(Is.1:5). While Moses went up the mount to receive the Decalogue the Israelites were already buy making a golden calf. What spirit was animating them? They were not of God. "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."( John 8:44)
Decalogue therefore was a set of commandments distinct from Gospel of salvation signified by the Command Number 10.
We shall see the difference in the vision of the Woman clothed with the Sun. "And upon her head a crown of twelve stars." This tag signifies the everlasting covenant and the nation of Israel shall not enter therein as the Parable signified.
"And behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads." (Re.12:3). The dragon signifying spiritual wickedness in high places is under condemnation. Therefore the ten horns refer to the Decalogue and he shall be cast into the lake of fire before the day of Regeneration commence. "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."(Re.20:10)
Israel as a nation of the Law have no place in the holy city of God.
John 20:28-29.
Revelation 1:8.
My opinion is that the expression sons of God in Genesis is figurative. It shows that people who obey God's commandments are called His sons. In the begining sons of God were the descedants of Seth. But as they were mixing with the rest of sinful people getting married to their daughters, those daughters made them turn away from God and eventually by the time of Noah only 8 of them remained righteous.
In John 8:42-44 Jesus says to the Jews, "Ye (the Jews) do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. ..." So everyone who does the lusts of devil is a son of devil and one who follows the commandements of God is a son of God. This is how I understand it.
About those sons of God being fallen angels, this idea can not fit in what Jesus said about us living in Heaven like angels and not getting married. Angels have no sex although the masculine sex is used for them. In Job in all those verses you mentioned, in the Septuagint is written angels of God, not sons of God.
"This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;"
The Spirit is giving us one narrative thread to show the sons of Adam and the other in the likeness of God. Because in the holy family of God the latter had the seed in itself and would show with their fruits that they were blessed under the covenant in the Man component. The first example to be called the righteous one is Abel. By offering,"the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof," he showed that he was planted by God. His works proved it. ( 1 John 3:12). Seth proved it by stepping into the breach made by Cain. (4:25-26) His generation proved by faith. "Then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.". It answers the period 'in the beginning' the book opened with. Ge.1:1
"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens," (2:4) The Spirit now begins with the period in the day that God created which also is tacked on to the generations of Adam where after our image and after our likeness are made distinct.
The second narrative thread gives us that of Jesus, "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham."(Matt.1:1) Jesus as the son of David is "after our image" meaning according to the flesh as stated in this passage, "that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;"(Ac.2:29-30) There is another connection with regards to Abraham. Jesus tells the Jews that "Before Abraham was, I am." How did they receive it? They were the sons of Adam and did not have the truth in them. The truth signifies the seed that is in itself. "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."( John 8:58-59)
Yes,certainly,as you said,GOD HIMSELF manifested himself to the Hebrews through the OT;which was written by the twenty-four elders,starting with Moses,understand?By the way,JESUS said GOD is Spirit- John 4:24-,what is the name of the invisible Spirit of GOD?Well,GOD had said in the beginning- Genesis 1:26(the beginning is JESUS,who is the LITERAL IMAGE of GOD,He is GOD)-, yes, GOD had said:"Let us make man in OUR image,after OUR likeness", then, both are One, and as we can see, since ancient times, since Genesis, GOD revealed He would be made flesh.
By the prophet Isaiah,who is one of the 24 elders,GOD again revealed He would be made flesh, and around 2000 years ago He LITERALLY fulfilled His promise- John 1:14-and what is the NAME that GOD chose for He Himself? The NAME that GOD chose for He Himself was/is JESUS - JOSHUA-. Luke 1:26-the angel GABRIEL was sent FROM GOD(the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing) unto a city of Galilee,named Nazareth,and said to Mary:behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his NAME JESUS. He shall be great, and called the Son of the Highest: the Lord GOD(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing) shall give unto Him the throne of His father David.
Remember: The Jews said to JESUS: John 8:41-we have one Father, even God. And JESUS said to the Devil, father of the Jews-Yahweh:It is written,Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the MOUTH OF GOD-Mat.4:4.
Psalms 110:1combined with Hebrews 1:8(plus Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1) -
GOD said to the Lord JESUS:Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy Kingdom.
KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD=JEHOVAH; ->JEHOVAH is another esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist nickname of the father of the Jews.
Luke 16:5 lord=a King or one of authority,yes, see John 18:37.
The King James Version uses Lord because it fortunately is the true translation approved by the Holy Spirit. You did not make mention what verse you have compared, anyway Lord may be JESUS or others biblical personage, as you may know JESUS is the LORD of the lords; who are the others besides JESUS?
The KJV is correct and true, Biblehub is not, and its translation in this specific case is one among others that will be burned with everlasting fire, because Yahweh is the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist name used by the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism as it was GOD's name, but it is not, it is the name of the father of the Jews- John 8:44KJV-that is their God- 2Thessalonians 2:3-4KJV.
JESUS said: John 8:41-43KJV
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to JESUS, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even GOD.
42 Jesus said unto them, If GOD were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from GOD(take a look in Hebrews 1:1-4); neither came I of myself, but He sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my Word.
Hebrews 4:12-13KJV
12 For the Word of GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do. or we must render an account
15...The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
18 And the nations were(WILL BE) angry, and GOD's WRATH is come ... and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
The message above was written around 95AD to be LITERALLY fulfilled in the future( Revelation 1:1) , and now, even now, from now on, the prophecy will LITERALLY be executed, for GOD is wrathed against all nations and they will be destroyed, include the current Israel, and only and only will be saved a remnant of Israel- Micah 7:18-20, in fact only 144K will be saved- Revelation 7:1-8. And the others?
The others? Matthew 23:33-35
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers (why serpents? why generation of vipers? The answer is in John 8:44.Take a look), how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?
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Firstly let me say I prefer the King James translation.
With that being said, Let me ad on to what Giannis has shared.
When we as English speaking people, when we see the word world we are thinking of the physical world at large.
I believe there is a Greek word for that, and it's oikoumen. "land that is the (terrene part of the) globe;
You will find the word world used this way in Matthew 24:14. "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the WORLD for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
In Matthew 28:20 in the Greek the word used for world is "eos" (time,age) its an Era or time period.
"kosmos" is also used for the word world, and you will see it used in John 8:23. "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this WORLD.
kosmos is defined as
"orderly arrangement that is decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense including its inhabitants.
These greek words have different meanings and can not be interchanged.
Using the word age in Matthew 28:20 doesn't change the meaning intended.
God bless
24:1 The earth is the Lord's,and the fulness thereof; the world,and they that dwell therein. -->(Comment:Luke:4:8-9:->8The Devil taketh JESUS up into an exceeding high mountain, sheweth Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 And he said to the Lord GOD, Lord JESUS: All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.)
Yes,"The earth is the Lord's,and the fulness thereof;the world,and they that dwell therein",This is true,of course, but what the Devil said to JESUS is lie, he is the father of lie, never abode in the Truth- John 8:44.
24:2 For the Lord hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord?(Satan intends to climb the mountain of the Lord- Isaiah 14:13-15),or who shall stand in His holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the GOD of His salvation.
6 This is the generation of them that seek Him, that seek thy face, O Jacob.Selah.
7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle. (in the war)
9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, He is the King of glory.Selah.
Now unto the King Eternal, Immortal, Invisible, the only wise GOD, be Honour and Glory for ever and ever. Amen.(1Ti.1:17)
Water
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."(Ge.1:6) As with separation of light we have God making a distinction between the waters above and below the firmament. So signs where water from the earth rising as a mist is different from the river flowing out of Eden to water the garden on the east of Eden. Everlasting covenant applies here as well. Adam whose sin of disobedience proved that he was a servant. "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"(Ro.6:16). Jesus gives us a clue to the expulsion of Adam, "And the servant abideth not in the house for ever( John 8:35-36). The Garden that God planted was for the last Adam. It also example the purpose of the water,"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." This is the quality of 'the vile body' of flesh and blood.(Ge.2:7-8) The first Adam was earthy on account of it.
Water sent from God we shall see at several places, so everlasting covenant is operational. The ground was cursed on account of sin and when Hagar was in dire straits in the wilderness of Beersheba we read that God opened her eyes, "And she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink."Ge.21:19). This river of time flows till the last chapter. Against which Moses giving Israelite water to drink and quenching the thirst of mighty Samson which establishes the covenant is working. God sent succour to him and the place, "which is in Lehi unto this day:(Ju.15:19). This water serves as a sign that he was blessed in the Son according to the covenant. On the contrary we have " In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness." (Ze.13:1). This is in relation to the new earth.
Compare this book sealed with seven seals to the stone tables which Moses broke at the foot of the mount."And the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written." (Ex.32:15-16) This was the work of God, "And the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables." Now we shall compare another. "He said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll," which the prophet did eat,"And it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness." (Ez.1:1-3) Now we have the word become flesh who is represented by Ezekiel as the Son of man and Moses is the servant of God. Jesus as the Son, "But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end."(He.3:5-6). The role of the house of Israel is what a servant can attend to. "And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever."( John 8:35). So the second set of tables was intended for Israel and which Moses was to write by himself. " And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments." The everlasting covenant and the Decalogue are signified by 'on the one side, and on the other side." Since Moses literally broke it God did not revise His will but Moses was allowed to write the words of the covenant.
The roll that Ezekiel had eaten is "the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart."(2 Co.3:3)
Having compared two kind of tables, of stone and of the heart we have the bound book "written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals."(Re.5:1) In order to indicate the authority we have seven seals and the Lamb having seven horns." stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns."