Discuss Genesis 3 Page 22

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:" The very first lie.

Adam was created west of Eden. If you got a old map I think he was created in the land of Nod. Eve was created in Eden.

If God created Adam and Eve in this story and Lucifer was already involved was there some time skip I wasn't aware of? Because there's a whole story of Lucifer to cover with him and his fallen angels and I find it weird they skip right through that as if there's nothing that happened between the time.

The Man that walked the hill of Calvary and died to pay your sin debt FULL has a message for you.

99.99% truth mixed with .001% lie is not the TRUTH that will MAKE you Free. According to the Hebrew Scriptures not the English Bible. Many are called few are chosen to understand what you are about to read. Here is how subtle and crafty your adversary really is. Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle and crafty than any beast of the field which Father YAHweh had made. And he said to the woman; Has YAHweh indeed said: You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

God is only a misleading TITLE not a name! Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His Son? Tell me, if you know!

"How can we know that Satan is the God of this world ( 2 Corinthians 4:4)?" Answer: The phrase "God of this world" (or "god of this age") indicates that Satan is the major influence on the ideals, opinions, goals, hopes and views of the majority of people. His influence also encompasses the world's philosophies, education, and commerce. The thoughts, ideas, speculations and ALL the religions of the world are under his control and have sprung from his lies and deceptions.

Satan is also called the "prince of the power of the air" in Ephesians 2:2. He is the "ruler of this world" in YAHchanan (John) 12:31. These titles and many more signify Satan's capabilities. To say, for example, that Satan is the "prince of the power of the air" is to signify that in some way he rules over the world and the people in it. This is not to say that he rules the world completely; Father YAHweh is still sovereign. But it does mean that Father YAHweh, in His infinite wisdom, has allowed Satan to operate in this world within the boundaries Father YAHweh has set for him. When the Scriptures says Satan has power over the world, we

Calm down. Jesus was speaking to his disciple who had been a fisherman by occupation.

Jesus invited him to be shown how to "fish" for peoples souls.

The word Apostle means, one who has seen the person of Jesus Christ; the Son of Man.

The office of an Apostle, works as touching the 5-fold Ministry of: Apostle, prophet, teacher, pastor, evangelist. Also, someone once said to me that 'pastor' is positioned on the ring finger because it involves full time shepherding of Jesus's sheep and baby lambs.

If you open your hand: the thumb is the apostle. Using the thumb it can reach out and touch each of the other 4 fingers.

The Apostle can minister in any of the other offices.

My take: Jesus would like us to be versatile by nature. He had to do it this way because someone is always going to bark, "That's Not My Job!."

We are all called to follow Jesus and DO the work of an evangelist.

Personally: I don't have cable and I watch very little television. My computer is 1 year old and hasn't been used yet. I have an unproven theory that if we watch too much tv, our rears rebel and move around to the front. :D

I'm just saying we have time to read the Bible. It goes much faster if you'll buy a Strongs concordance; a commentary; maybe a dictionary. How's your Bible appetite?

I love Jesus! First time I saw that he evaded Satan all over the place and Satan could only focus on murdering the Son of God! Satan forgot all about Genesis 3:14-15 prophesy. When that spear cut into Jesus's side, He had already died. Satan didn't get to cheer :( Then when Jesus came walking out of the tomb: He bruised Satans head (I hope he knocked him out) and Jesus took the Keys and went to hell, preached salvation, opened the cells and led everybody in there out, in the streets and into Paradise. He then met up with both Marys because they were over at the Empty Tomb.

This is the Mighty Son of God that we worship! He is worthy to be praised & adored.

Mishael

Very briefly: When Adam sinned by eating the fruit and was banned from the Garden; he lost the mandate that he had been charged with by God. Satan stole the keys.

You see satan in Job 1, bragging.

When Jesus came out of the grave, He went and got the keys back from Satan. He preached to the captives in hell and led them all out; took them through the streets so all could see.

Revelation 1:18

I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

I don't call that mocking. You did, didn't you? Mocking and accusing is a fruit: attributes of Satan. Exactly like what he was doing in Job 1.

Jesus legally took all that power away from Satan when He went to the Cross. John 3:16 < link

Satan didn't know what was really happening or he would have stopped the trial and the crucifixion. He didn't read the scrolls that were being written. He must've forgotten about the prophesy God spoke to him in Genesis 3:14-15. Hebrews 2:14

Romans 16:20, 1 John 3:8

His time is short and he knows he is going to be cast into hell. That's why there is so much spiritual warfare in our world now.

Ephesians 6. Satan is sending his evil angels out into the world to kill as many humans as he can by accident, illness, pandemics, depression, suicide, drugs and alcohol; even riots in streets = where demons will seek to enter inside of unaware humans.

2 Timothy 3:13, evil will wax worse and worse!! It's not ever going to go back to normal.

After the Rapture (Caught Up), it will be this bad times 10. After Antichrist finishes pretending to be Mr. Fix-Everything that's wrong with the world ....all hell will break loose on earth. All prophesy.

You should switch sides now and hang with Jesus. He's going to be moving real fast.

Mishael

There were no Hebrews until Genesis chapter 10 when Eber begat Peleg and Joktan.

Lora, CONCERNING THE WORD "MYSTERY"

I agree with you, the mystery of God is complex.

I do not agree with you concerning the "mystery of godliness" as it pertains to Scripture you provided, being God Himself. I believe it concerns the Son of God being born of woman ( Isaiah 7:14). Jesus is the One spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:16 and the One promised in Genesis 3:15

I agree with you, Jesus is the way to salvation.

I, however, must disagree with you that God is Jesus and Jesus is God, and again will state that I believe Jesus never came claiming to be His Father.

Jesus came as the personification of the Words of the Father John 1:1-2); and His authority came from the Father; and He lost none of His Father's sheep ( John 17:12)

But Jesus is not the Father.

The word mystery only occurs in the New Testament.

The word "mystery" is the Greek word "musterion" and basically means a "secret."

There is more than one "mystery" spoken of in Scripture.

There is the mystery concerning the DURATION of time of the blindness of Israel ( Isaiah 6:9-10, Romans 11:25).

There is the mystery concerning the kingdom of God which was revealed in parables to the general public, but explained to the 12 Apostles; ( Matthew 13:10-11, 1 Peter 1:10-12)

There is the mystery concerning the fact that "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" ( John 11:25-26, 1 Corinthians 15:51, also look at Philippians 3:14, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, Hebrews 9:27)

There is the mystery of iniquity and lawlessness that is connected to MYSTERY BABYLON of Revelation 17:5-7, (look at Daniel 8:23, Daniel 12:4, Matthew 22:4, Acts 2:38, 2 Thessalonians 2:7)

There is the great mystery or secret concerning the Gentiles being co-heirs in the body of Christ, which was only revealed after the second rejection the King and the Kingdom by the Jews in Acts 28:17-31. This is the secret that was kept secret since the world began and what is being spoken of in Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:1-12, and Colossians 1:24-27.

The Godhead is Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Here are verses showing the Godhead speaking amongst themselves.

Different ministries, functions, but all three United in purpose. The LET US. From Genesis to the New Testament.

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 3:22

Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

Acts 17:27-30

Please write these on the back page of your Bible. People ask this question frequently.

Mishael

The importance of this verse is that the LORD preserved a godly seed in the midst of a corrupt generation.

"Mahalaleel" means "praise of God" , and "Jared" means "descent".

If you look in Luke chapter 3 verse 37, you will see both their names are in the lineage of Jesus Christ who is the promised "seed of the woman" of Genesis 3:15 who would bruise the head of the serpent, Satan.

Jesus, the Son of God, became our Savior from sin by sacrificially dying our death on the cross and rising from the dead, granting all who trust in him forgiveness and everlasting life.

You know part of the Mystery.

The Godhead is Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Here are verses showing the Godhead speaking amongst themselves.

Different ministries, functions, but all three United in purpose. The LET US. From Genesis to the New Testament.

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 3:22

Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

Acts 17:27-30

Your understanding of scriptures represents you very well.

Mishael

Luke 8:11

"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."

1 Peter 1:23

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

Genesis 1:31

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

Psalms 119:107

"I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word."

Genesis 3:14

"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Genesis 3:15

"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

2 Timothy 4:1

"I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;"

John 6:63

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

John 20:29

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

1Cor 15:45

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

John 10:36 Say you of him, whom the Father has sanctified, and sent into the world, You blaspheme; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Luke 3:38

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."

Adam was alive spirit, soul, body; until he and Eve ate the fruit. In Genesis 3:22 we see the Godhead conversing about how to protect the Tree of Life. It's not where it was, now: Revelation 22:2.

Since it's written, by God: all souls are mine.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the Earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 3:21.

New Testament Scriptures on Christian spirits: Hebrews 12:23, Luke 23:46; Matthew 22:32, 1 Thessalonians 5:10,

1 Peter 3:18, 2 Corinthians 5:1-8

John 17-24, Philippians 1:21-24

Acts 7:55-56, Acts 7:59, Genesis 35:18

Love to all. Mishael

You would think that an Hebrew would have a Hebrew name.

Write these scriptures in the back of your Bible. This comes up frequently.

The GODHEAD:

Father, Son, Holy Spirit

Acts 17:27-30

John 10:30

4 Events when the Godhead spoke to each other concerning a matter:

The "LET US" scriptures"

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 3:22

Genesis 11:7

1 John 5:7

If your Bible has center of each page, columns; read the scriptures it lists for those verses. It widens the information, or sometimes mentions a prophesy. You'll discover many gems of wisdom that way.

Mishael

ME: "There are TWO princes mentioned in this passage. One is Titus (secular little prince) and the other Jesus the Messiah, the Prince of peace." (v26).

YOU: Yes, I do agree with you on that, but when we get to verse 27 & we see (A) "And he shall confirm the covenant with many", this is where divergent opinions arise on who "he" is. Some say that it speaks of Jesus, others, Anti-Christ. For those referring it to Jesus, I sought understanding as to His "confirming the Covenant FOR ONE WEEK (7 Years) & (B) causing the sacrifice & oblation to cease, etc." If it was Jesus, (C) how & when did this happen at His coming & His death, as all things continued the same way with the Jews? (D) If it referred to the "Prince that shall come", then it spoke about, either evil Titus at his coming in AD 70, or that spirit that was in him, to be revealed in the Anti-Christ.

ME: BREAKING IT DOWN. I think I did this for you before. You may have not read it.

A & B: CONFIRM THE COVENANT =

1.What covenant was promised to Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:15?

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

2.What covenant came into being WHEN Jesus rose from the dead?

3.What covenant is constantly talked about throughout the whole New Testament and referred to in the Old Testament many times with Daniel 9:24-27 just being one of those times?

4.Why is the KJB the only one that calls it THE covenant? THE is a definitive article only meaning ONE of a kind ONE time. There has been many peace treaties over the centuries. More modern English translations have changed THE to A so they can encrypt pre-trib theology in by making it say more than one possibility. The NLT is so horrible it teaches pre-trib theology.

This is about 1/4th of my response and breaking it all down for you. I wish I could just send you the Word document so you can read it over and over. Blogs are nice but limited.

Chris,

Great feedback as always:

A foundational aspect which I find myself defending (as the minority position) is the debate between Law vs. Grace as well as Works vs. Grace.

I find myself in the position of believing that we are in need of the Law. We are also in need of Works. And most of all, we are in need of the Grace given to us through faith in Jesus Christ.

I will give my opinion based upon your alphabetic structure

a) I believe that we are ALL "God's "elect,"

Israel is "elect" for all the reasons you mention.

Christians are "elect" because Scripture says so ( Colossians 3:12, 1 Thessalonians 1:4).

b) I agree, and will add that God NEVER intended or believed Israel could fulfill the Law. The Law was given to Israel (and all who cared to follow) for proper ceremonial worship, and for guidance, and for correction.

c) I agree and will add that Jesus not only fulfilled the Law perfectly as a Jew, but also as a man.

d) While I can (partially) agree with you that Christ came to fulfill the Law (of ordinances, i.e. blood sacrifice, not the entire Law), I believe that the MAIN REASON Jesus was promised by God to all of mankind can be found all the way back in Genesis 3:15. At that particular point in time, Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet to have partaken in sin.

God knew that Israel would backslide. That is why the Savior was promised right from the beginning of the fall of man, thousands of years before the nation of Israel ever existed.

The promise of Genesis 3:15, however, has to do with the DEATH of Jesus, and the result of His crucifixion can be found in Hebrews 2:14.

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

That is the PRIMARY reason Jesus was promised, and is the (partial) fulfillment of that promise of Genesis 3:15; partial because Satan is not dead yet.

Bob Grove,

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It seems that "Enos" is the first person recorded within the blood line of Adam and Eve that willfully chose to fall away from the word of God. Both Adam and his wife displayed fear for having disappointed the LORD ( Genesis 3:8 - 10), as well as honesty to Him about their transgression ( Genesis 3:12, 13). Seth, being Adam and Eve's first listed biological son ( Genesis 5:3), is not mentioned in Scripture as acting against the word of God in any form or manner.

To build a wedge between the word of God and His people is the main goal of Satan, and those who do his work for him. Being of a particular family or heritage does not determine whether you will love God or not; that is an individual decision. The example is set forth in this verse that within the direct bloodline of Adam, even at this early period in time, there is a falling away from the saving grace of the LORD, and it "began" with "Enos."

I believe it is also worth mentioning that "Enos" is the only Antediluvian patriarch of the genealogy of Adam and Eve, save for Seth, that is listed among "THE GENERATIONS OF THE HEAVENS AND OF THE EARTH" ( Gen 2:4). Seth is mentioned for genealogy purposes only, as the focus of this verse ( Gen 4:26) is about the error and wickedness of "Enos." The focus of the entire 4th chapter of Genesis, in general, concerns the rise of the seed of Satan upon the earth, and the influence they had on mankind from its earliest beginnings. Even though Adam walked with God only three generations earlier, "Enos" has himself chosen to fall away from the LORD and ally himself with the sons of the wicked one.

Alex,

The legal term for adoption can be found in Luke 3:23. The term "as was supposed" is defined as "as reckoned by law / "to lay down a thing as law" / "to hold by custom, or usage." This is the legal term used for adoption.

The father of Joseph is Jacob, as can be seen from Matthew 1:16.

The father of Mary is Heli, as can be seen from Luke 3:23.

The lineage of Jesus goes from Mary, through David, through Adam, to God Himself.

The birth of the Savior of the world was promised long before prophecy of David came into light. ( Genesis 3:15). The birth of this One will defeat death itself.

Psalm 119:130 King James Version (KJV)

130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Comment:

Some things have to be believed in FAITH.

A Christian does not have to be drawn into debates about whether God is the Father, The Son is God or the third person of the Godhead is God the Holy Spirit. Each is separate but all 3 are God.

There's a lot written about debates and the fact you and (these) friends are debating the known Truth; tells me that none are reading their Bibles, Chapter after Chapter. You cannot "spot read " and learn any continuity of thought.

Try staying in the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) and see how they all agree in scripture. Which you are doubting.

This is a link. Really read it slow; word by word. John 3.

Back in front of Revelation; Read 1 John, 2 John, 3 John

If you still doubt, you may need to be sure you are born again. John 3. A person can agree mentally about salvation but fail somehow to receive the Holy Spirit; YOUR TEACHER.

These scriptures are of the Godhead speaking to each other. Click on the links:

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:7

Genesis 3:22

1 John 5:7

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

I will include a testimony at the end of this:

In American schools, the Genesis creation narrative was generally taught as the origin of the universe and of life until Darwin's scientific theories became widely accepted. While there was some immediate backlash, organized opposition did not get underway until the Fundamentalist-Modernist Controversy broke out following World War I; several states passed laws banning the teaching of evolution while others debated them but did not pass them. The Scopes Trial was the result of a challenge to the law in Tennessee. Scopes lost his case, and further states passed laws banning the teaching of evolution.

In 1968, the US Supreme Court ruled on Epperson v. Arkansas, another challenge to these laws, and the court ruled that allowing the teaching of creation, while disallowing the teaching of evolution, advanced a religion, and therefore violated the Establishment Clause of the constitution. Creationists then starting lobbying to have laws passed that required teachers to Teach the Controversy, but this was also struck down by the Supreme Court in 1987 in Edwards v. Aguillard. Creationists then moved to frame the issue as one of intelligent design but this too was ruled against in a District Court in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District in 2005.

The issue has remained contentious, with various US states debating, passing, or voting down alternative approaches to creationism in science classrooms. There is no bar in US law to creationism being taught in civics, current affairs, philosophy, or comparative religion classes.

Testimony:

My 8 yr old son came home and asked me if "we humans came from apes?" Quick prayer! I said no. We come from God. He blurted he had to take a test the next day on evolution. He was upset.

I quizzed him on ape lives vs human. Then I told him he had my permission to FAIL the test. Which he did.

Don't bow your knee to False Prophets!

Believe in God only!

Children are being taught from both home & school that published 'historical' facts are far more reliable than any faith-based understanding of the world we live in. Even the apostles had to combat this intrusion into the early Church where this gnostic influence & teaching was creeping in, which amongst its many teachings, taught that man's knowledge & ability to acquire it was of far greater worth than virtue. This suggested that it was fine to be morally upright, but the acquisition of knowledge was of greater value, & through knowledge one could better himself & delve deeper into one's subconscious to find the divine.

Is it any wonder that the Bible is no longer required but one can depend on what scientists, philosophers & sages have discovered over the ages & this becomes the truth on which we must establish ourselves & proceed from. So, if children are taught that their ancestors were actually apes & through a pictorial description show that evolution over time proves that humanoids developed from them, then if the matter of faith in the biblical account is brought to them, it becomes a strange unbelievable teaching lacking any substance. And so it would, if everything that is taught to them is so-called 'fact based', even though those 'facts' may well be full of errors. But what do they care, as long as they progress in education & matters of 'religion' are left out for those so inclined.

The question then is, have Christians failed their societies by remaining quiet when devilish teaching went on, subjecting our young ones to lies? Would the tide of wickedness be stemmed somewhat, had Christians overtly resisted Satan? How many have arisen to withstand this onslaught? Very few, while we remain smug in our Churches ensuring that at least in those hallowed halls, our people & children are taught God's Word. We might have a lot to answer for in our suppression of God's Word to all.

volution is a false religion.

Archaeology, geology& other sciences prove the earth is billions of years old.

Science has proved the Bible is accurate.

Nothing evolves; it adapts to change; environment.

Between Genesis chapter one, verse 1 and 2, maybe billions of years passed. HOWEVER, God did not Create TIME recording until Genesis 1:1: "In Beginning"

In the Hebrew that verse does not say: In THE beginning. God set TIME in motion before he began creating.

IF you have a Bible with the center of each page, references to other scriptures that backup, explain or reference to even more scriptures: you'll get a glimpse of the pre-Creation things that God made.

Scientists have found whole skeletons of dinosaurs and other creatures, and say they did not die by fire or asteroids. They died rapidly: as if frozen fast. I've seen many scriptures that refer to ice, hoar frost; Job refers to Gods storehouses of snow, hail, etc. All planets show evidence of once having water; but not anymore. Except earth. The Bible says God SHOOK the earth and turned it UPSIDE DOWN.

If it's necessary for you to be born again after all this is proved; then get after it. There are no more debates. Let God be true, and every man a liar. God cannot lie.

Don't delay being born again. Time is almost done for this Age.

I do not dispute with science. I do dispute with evolution.

They didn't. God formed Adam from the dust. Later He did surgery on Adam and created Eve from Adams rib bone.

The only created pre-Adam beings were satan and the 1/3 evil-turned angels that were thrown down to earth. At that time they had bodies. Satans body had been changed to a serpent. They co-habituated with descendants of Adam and Giants were born. The Bible calls them inhabitants.

Noah built the Ark and people not on the Ark were DROWNED. The evil angels had no bodies again. But their Invisible demonic spirits were able to Enter into evil sinful people who may or may not have known they were possessed. That's how they get around. They can get into creatures and animals. Example: when Jesus cast them into pigs that leaped off a cliff and died. No bodies again.

The only way to be free from that cycle is to be saved and born again with the Holy Spirit of God living on the inside of you.

That's why so many people are afflicted with illness, sicknesses, depression, mental and emotional afflictions. Drug abuse is a demonic invasion of the spirit of Death. Which can influence the afflicted person to end their life. The Holy Spirit will eject all those spirits in an instant: but the accepting of Jesus has to be genuine. God isn't a quick fix for a demonic problem; like an aspirin for headache.

No one who is born again can call God accursed. No one can call Him Lord.

You must be born again. Believe. Repent of sins past and present. Receive Jesus as Lord. If you get saved and go back into sin as before; you will be worse off than you were before. If you Blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you'll be doomed to hell as before. You can't fake out God. He sees the intent of your heart.

Question : Why are so many college age young adults accepting Evolution in place of Creation ? Bible clearly shows a Young Earth of 6000 yrs from Now to Adam.....in Peter it says ...do Not be Stupid / Ignorant in this One area....The Area of TIME..Total Time is 7000 yrs of This Present Creation with Jesus Ruling the World during the Last 1000 yrs of Time...Yet We dont bother it seems to Study and Show This World Proofs of a Young Earth showing BIBLE is Factual in ALL it Declares...Evolution is pure Atheism and Its King is Satan...

Where did Adam and Eve live before God created the Garden of Eden?

Yes easyer to hear Him when you use childs ears

truly, why did they eat fruit because adam added to what GOD said