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Gal 4 speaks of the heir.but we are NOT the heir, its the H.G that is the true Heir, Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is SPIRIT which is our new innerman that has to be born in us via his seed the WORD, WE ARE JUST A JOINT HEIR IF WE BIRTH CHRIST IN OUR LIVES, THE SON OF MAN, which is the essence of the new covenant,i will put my Words in their hearts and minds initiating a New Birth.

Gal 4 is the new covenant which is christ in you via that good seed, the word the very essence of the new covenant. we are gonna birth christ in our hearts which is the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE,thats y the new birth is so important, being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc CHRIST is gonna be formed in us via that good seed, them that are BORN of God CANNOT Sin,THUS THE LAW IS FULFILLED

Thank God for the new creature in Christ that never sins inside us that are born again child of God. Now the flesh will always sin because of its nature. If we feed the new creature by reading the Word of God, it will cleanse us. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. feed the new creature of God and be cleanse of sins.

Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus. If Paul wants us to think of him like a Angel of God, that is saying a lot who Paul is. The Word speaks for it self. Praise the Lord.

To be free from the condemnation of the Law is not an "opt out," or as if we can say a password and get let into the Club while the rest have to pay. If there is no real deliverance from the power of darkness, and of sin's dominion over us; then there can be no release from the condemnation of the Law. Jesus did a complete and perfect work on the cross, to save us FROM our sins, not IN our sins!

:21-31 reveal the allegory of Abraham, being God the Father, Hagar being the Ten Commandments in stone, Sarah being the Ten Commandments in the heart, Ishmael being God's first born son Israel and Isaac being God's second born son Christianity, this allegory is repeated in Romans 9 when using the same typologies for the law of God in stone is bondage but in the heart it is libtery.

These are the two sons of God, Israel his first born and Christianity his second born, each physical child reveals the spiritual child, the first born to Abraham Ishmael the second Isaac, God's first born son Israel, his second born Christianity, this is what is being taught here as the Apostle also taught in Galatians 4:21-31 in an allegory

Ed:(NO) it's their-our own dark hearts! From whence come wars and fightings among you? Come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members. James 4:1 / I assume Abraham and his two sons may have helped a little. Galatians 4:22-31 / washed:Revelation1:5.

Galatians 4:6 you should read this again even 4:26 is to compare Jerusalem to Sarah being the mother of Israel

Vikki Mumford, Yes, it is possible to loose salvation.This is the warning of Exekiel 18. Matthew 22:14"For many are called, but few are chosen."Also: 2 Peter 2:21,2 Timothy 3:5, Galatians 4:9, Romans 8:28-31,etc. Believe God's word, and let no man deceive you. God loved Solomon a righteous man and he lost his. I hope this helps. Let scripture interpret scripture. Man's opinion means nothing!

Just to add to what Scott said, being free from the Law also means not under its condemnation, and that can only happen when Christ is living in us, only Christ can bring freedom from the condemnation of the law.


















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1. PHARISEES (READ ACTS CHAPTER 15:1-21) ( GALATIANS CHAPTER 3)
2. PETER
3. JAMES
THESE ARE THE FOLKS WHO SEEM TO BE PILLARS COMPEL THOSE GENTILE BELIEVERS TO KEEP THE LAW MIXED GRACE, WHEREIN PAUL INSTRUCTED US TO GET AWAY FROM THE BONDAGE OF TRADITION ( ROM 10:4) CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW, WHY SERVE THE LAW IS YOU'RE FREE? ( GALATIANS 4:5, COLLOSIANS 3:14-17) HOPE YOU REPLY?

Paul's writings are hard to understand if you do not understand the "law" and what the "curse" of the law is. Being under the curse was when you broke the law or did not keep it. keeping the law was not a curse to you and the law in itself was not a curse to anyone. Paul is saying that the law must be kept to not be under the curse of the law. That the Messiah Yushua Jesus came to redeem those that were under the curse of the law which was "Sin". He did not come to take away the law, but came to take away the curse sin's of those that had not kept the law. He died for our sins to be taken away, not the law to be taken away as some may believe.

In this chapter the divergent path of is explained. Will we trust in the Law given by God thru Moses, the oracles, or do we obviate the law thru Faith in the Son of God. Our faith, does it not depend on the law, for God heareth no sinners. He is a God who loves righteousness and hates the worldly man. Jacob have I loves but Esau have I hated. I think will must be ever mindful of our actions and perceptive of our inner most being so that we are acceptable in his sight. Our Faith is strengthened as we endure the hardships put in our path and still not falter in our Faith. Let every aspirant work out his own salvation by staying in the Word of Good, thereby being approved of God, the Father of our Master, Jesus Christ.

Agar born of the flesh persecuted Isaac born of the spirit . The verse ends saying- Even so it is now. Does this mean that the flesh continues to persecute the spirit even today. I would say YES. Does it have any reference to Paul 's persecution of Jesus? The flesh verses the spirit? Or am I correct on both accounts?

Our Beloved Apostle Paul was more radical when writing this Letter, the question of Ten commandemnts was addreseed by His Lord, Our Lord Jesus Christ on his first public Speech, Mat5:17-18. He Said i 'm not here to put end to law but to add. And not even one letter from law will be removed until the end comes. we therefore need to be cautious about not breaking Ten Commandments which were given to Moses in Mt Sinai.

So it doesn 't mean the pastor has an excuse to rip thru the flock yelling screaming and bullying because it is how he interprets "change my voice ", perhaps there is room here for spirit o meekness?

we need to understand what Jesus did for us before in old testament from Gensis to Malchi God is not mention to any one he is my son or she is my daughter, only by Jesus is possible are believer called adopted sons and daughter. Amen

No matter how hard or how many times you mess up, you can begin again. Best is yet to be when you are fully developed love consciousness and embodied Christ. A new beginning towards this goal starts today or any day you are ready. And if your body wears out and you are birthed into a new body, I will still be there for you. I am there with you for as long as it takes.

It is no wonder that for the next thirteen years of Abraham s life, Scripture records no actions of faith on Abraham s part. No revelation from God. No apparent fellowship with the Lord. No mention of prayers or sacrifices made. Thirteen years of spiritual barrenness wasted years! But why? Ishmael was the son Abraham produced of his own self effort, his own fleshly dependence, his own human thinking. Ishmael was not the son of promise, the miraculous child that God would bring of divine intervention. Ishmael represents the flesh, whereas Isaac represents the Spirit Gal. 4 28 31 .

Gal. 4 10 when thought of in occurrences in modern times, is very sad. These days we have Mothers ' and fathers ' day,valentine day, etc. We are all witnesses to how passionately these days are observed in almost all countries and communities all over the world. Let us ask ourselves and be very honest with our answer do we observe religious days with such passion? The answer is no. Paul 's comment in Gal 4 10 is as relevant to us in these end times as it was to the Galatians in Paul 's era. We have to stop and think.

Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all

This verse alone is what should give the Islamics an understanding of where they stand as regards to the birth right of Ishmael. The bondwoman was Haggar the mother of Ishmael therefore he was born of the flesh. But, Issac who was born of the freewoman Sarah was by promise. Issac is the rightful heir therefore, the Muslims need to stop fighting the Jews over that land God gave to Issac 's heirs. The promise was made to the son of Sarah and not the son of Haggar. The son of Haggar falls under the Abrahamic Covenant in the same order as of the Gentiles.

I agree with your comments. Our Religious attempts
at self control. I think you hit it on the head. The word religion means " back to bondage " or to
" re-bind " Paul talks about it much concerning the " law " and when it says to cast out the bond-
woman, I think it could be saying; get rid of trying to keep the law to be lead, but be lead by
the Spirit. The law might say, " Don't commit adultery," but only the Spirit can say, " Buy her
some roses and some chocolates for valentines day. "

The fulness of time came when the 700 years had expired, as scripture said. God had divorced The Nation Israel around 722 BC he could not remarry Israel for 10 generations. A generation, according to Psalm 90:10 3 score plus 10, masking it 70 years. Jesus came to Israel when the 700 years had expired.

Jesus Christ is my rock and my strong tower. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Yeshua/Jesus is my power and my shield. Praise the lord.

Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashisch is the promised Messiah.

To: Mark Hudson: ...to the SECOND argument regarding to the missing the flames of hell... ...whosoever was "not found written in the book of life" was cast into the lake of fire ( Revelation 20:15) any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie ( Revelation 21:27) the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars ( Revelation 21:8) and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the "books", according to their "works" ( Revelation 20:12)... ...and this includes THEM WHO "DRAW BACK" UNTO PERDITION (Hebrew 10:36-39) who are called "LOST" ( John 17:12) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them like the dog that turned to his own vomit again (2-Peter 2:21-22) whereunto they desire again to be in bondage ( Galatians 4:9)...THEREFORE...we must NOT BELIEVE the LIARS telling us that we shall not be judged when we TURNED BACK AND WERE LOST after we received the remission of our sins by the grace of God through the blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ...

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I think this scripture is emphasizing the power struggle Agar's descendents (Palestinian Muslims),through her seed, Ismael, would have with the Israelites, and, therefore, in essence,this scripture was more both historic and prophetic than current-- i.e in Paul's time!