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Hopefully you find that here, with us. Ephesians 5:19-21,

Hi Giannis.

That is the view I hold as well.

I believe the water here is the word of God.

John 15:3. Now ye are clean through the WORD which I have spoken unto you.

Ephesians 5:26. That he might sanctify and cleanse it WITH THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD,

1 Peter 1:23. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth for ever.

God bless.

Dear Merrily Giuliano,

I am sorry that you have felt unaccepted by so many. I can honestly say that as an educator of very young children, even we teachers are not very well trained to understand autism nor how to bring out the best in such people. We are woefully inept at meeting the needs of autism (and most conditions that require that the person receive specialized education. So, that said, I really don't think that the general public know much about autism and therefore it's expression in a person makes people feel uneasy and feeling the need to distance from one who is autistic. I don't think people really want to hurt someone's feelings by rejecting them. Rather, I just think that people withdraw from one they do not understand and do not know how to interact with one with autism. But even so, there are those who are mean to people who differ from themselves, and this is very hurtful.

Giuliano, I pray that God will draw some wonderful friends into your life soon who love the Lord and can benefit greatly from your contribution to their lives. May these people be knowledgeable about autism as well as very willing to keep up friendships with you over the long haul. Such friends are few and far between in most people's lives unless they are really outgoing, which isn't usually a characteristic of one with autism. But your fantastic memory skills will bless your friends over and over again as you continue to share Scripture from memory with them.

And above all of this, everyone has the challenge of learning how to be content and satisfied in our relationship with God, discovering that He truly is enough for all of our needs. Keep close to Him and He will help you in your other relationships and bring healing to you from the hurts and disappointment that comes from rejection and mistreatment from other believers. That is a sad thing to happen to anyone. My best to you today, Giuliano.

Hey Merrily Giuliano,

We as humans all have been rejected, some more than others. I am sorry if you feel Christians reject you the most it is their fault, not yours the love of Jesus is not in them. That does not define who you are if you have faith in Jesus as your savior you are a member of a family, a child of God. If you can memorize bible verses, you do better than me I struggle to do that.

People can be cruel, out of fear, or ignorance, and some are just downright mean, and worst of all they call themselves Christian. Recognize who you are, you are a child of God and we one day will be consumed by a wave of peace and love we cannot even imagine. Realize we do the best we can and if we are doing that no one on this earth can do better. I know it is hard and I wish I had the words to make it better. Remember the ones who reject us are the ones with the bigger problem, you can make a difference in this world.

I am sure others on this site will have better words for you, I do know you can come on this site, and no one will reject you, you will be welcome anytime.

God bless,

RLW

I am truly ashamed. I was a single mom when my son's dad and I had gotten the official diagnosis for my son. He is now 19. I was so upset I lost it in front of my son. I slammed my stuff down on the coffee table and yelled out loud in front of my son. "I have a retard for a kid!" My son just stood there at 5 looking blankly up at me. The look on his sweet face with his big brown eyes brought me to my knees. I felt the most heart wrenching pain in my chest. I was so HUMILIATED that I had given up on this beautiful boy. I remember that and it haunts me to this day. I think I was just feeling sorry for myself and not wanting to face the real truth that my son was NOT ATYPICAL like most other children are. I myself have a brain injury and congenital heart problem. I was always compared to others being told." You can NEVER do that." You will never do this. Always falling short of the standard "quo" expectations. My dad left and I felt like it had something to do with me. I had brain damage at 19 when my heart stopped. I was talked down to by my dad's "Wife". She always made me feel less than. A big 0. No this is not about me. This is my ONLY SON. The most extraordinary human being I've ever known. He loves unconditionally and I fear for him in this big cruel world we live in. He will be hurt, taken advantage of or used. I have seen the miraculous beauty of whom he is. He keeps me young at heart and loves me no matter what. Never let ANYONE tell you that you are not good enough. You are PERFECT in God's eyes. Jesus LOVES you! Christians like myself have been very hypocritical and we all fall short. You have a very SPECIAL reason for being who you are created to be. Each day my eyes are opening more and more to the beauty INSIDE of us. Jesus LOVES YOU! Everything in His time. God bless you! Love will find a way.



Listen to The Lost Shepherd.

No words just BEAUTIFUL music.

Dear Merrily, I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I can speak for myself that I'm a Christian and I certainly haven't rejected anyone with autism. Those I know who care for and love friends or family members with this condition I can also say have not been rejected by them. Can you please share why you feel this way? God bless you.

Autistics like me are rejected by all. Especially Christians. We try hard, pray, memorize verses, to rare avail. What can we do? Thank you

TO BE FILLED BY God the holy Spirit You need to repent and believe in Jesus Christ

and abide in Jesus Christ then he will teach you in the way you should go including the gifts which God the holy sprit will give to you.

Acts 16:25-40

30 Then he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" 31 And they said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."

Ephesians 5:9

9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Hi Alex N;

It is alright if you do not believe in two gospels, but this does not change the fact that there are two gospels, the gospel that saved our spirit teaches the death, burial and resurrection, also known as the gospel of peace, the gospel of salvation, the gospel of God and the gospel of Christ, however these names do not change the gospel. But when we preach about the gospel of the kingdom, we are not teaching about eternal life, we are teaching about a kingdom based upon theocrasy, where the Lord Jesus owns the kingdom and all the people in the kingdom. All of the Lord's parables are not about getting saved or being born again, they are about the kingdom of heaven, this is the gospel of the kingdom, when the Apostle Paul wrote in 1 Cor. 6:9-10, Gal. 5:19-21 and Ephesians 5:5 he did not teach if Christians live a sinful lifestyle they cannot go to heaven, nor did he teach they will go to hell, he taught they will not inherit the kingdom of God. This message is about the gospel of the kingdom, although all Christians will go to heaven, not all Christians will enter the kingdom of heaven, being the millennial kingdom at the second coming of Christ, nor when we start the new heaven and new earth in the final kingdom of heaven, the city New Jerusalem. All of this is about kingdom theology, so if you call it the kingdom of heaven, or the kingdom of God, or the kingdom of Christ, this does not change the dispensation, nor the manifestation of the kingdom. I have an abundance of scripture for all of this, if you are willing to learn, I will share this with you.

The subsequent verses clearly indicate that this group is taken out of great Tribulation. Many would argue that the 144,000 were witnessing to this great multitude; and this is the result of the world's greatest evangelistic outreach.

I; however question that in light of verse 14 of the same chapter. This indicates that their robes were washed and made white in the blood of the Lamb. It would seem that there is a link here to those who had stained garments such as Sardis church in Rev. 3:4; with a further admonition in the next verse of being victorious. In light of those who are in white and unwrinkled garments in Ephesians 5:27 and even the admonition of Ecclesiastes 9:8 as well as possibly the parable of the wise virgins it seems like a strong possibility that in the first part of the Tribulation some may be left behind who are currently compromised and worldly. In other words; that would make the Rapture a reward issue; rather than merely a salvation one.

At some point of course there will be those who are martyred for not taking the mark of the Beast. That appears to be after this event if we take things mainly chronologically. Even in that case; we need to remember by the sixth seal everyone is aware of God an Christ and they go to the caves to hide from their presence ( Rev. 6:15). That is a far cry from when eventually they fight against Christ at Armageddon. My point though is that there will be no need to preach as we do now that Christ is Lord but a declaration of judgment ensuing; and the Kingdom arriving on earth will be proclaimed. We see this also once angels and apparently an eagle go throughout the earth admonishing man to worship the Creator; not to take the mark; and the woes are given to Babylon. ( Rev. 14:6-12). Notice that at the end of this passage those who are about to die are mentioned; thus bolstering another group of martyrs after the one mentioned in Revelation 7.

Not worth arguing about; let us all be Bereans.

Agape

Hi Adam.

I believe Hebrews 13:12-16 speaks of spiritual living



"Wherefore Jesus also, THAT HE MIGHT SANCTIFY THE PEOPLE WITH HIS OWN BLOOD, SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE.

Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, BEARING HIS REPROACH.

"We've been cleansed by the blood and separated to follow him."

FOR HERE HAVE WE NO CONTINUING CITY, "BUT WE SEEK ONE TO COME". (The new Jerusalem.) Galatians 4:26-28.

("But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.)

"Sarah presents a picture of this."

( We've been born by promise.)

Issac presents a picture of this!

Galatians 4:28.

BY HIM THEREFORE LET US OFFER THE SACRIFICE OF PRAISE TO GOD continually, that is, the fruit of our lips GIVING THANKS TO HIS NAME.

BUT TO DO GOOD AND TO COMMUNICATE FORGET NOT: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

We are to praise him for freeing us from the bondage of dead works and counted us worthy to be heirs of the promise given to Abraham by faith. We are to walk in that faith righteously.

Ephesians 5:14-17.

Romans 12:1.

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service."

We've been brought outside the camp cleansed and given the Holyspirit to be able to serve.

John 4:20-21.

It's not location or command. ( No longer in bondage) Brought outside the camp, been made free AND NOW ABLE to worship in truth and in spirit.

THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLYSPIRIT IS HOW WE SERVE HIM.

God bless.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations. An exhortation to obey the Great Commission, Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel, unto every creature. Let us thank the Lord we still have time to preach the gospel openly, the hour is late, we need to work the works of him that sends us while it is day John 9:4. Let us redeem the time because the days are evil Ephesians 5:16.

Psalms 118:24, Ephesians 5:1-20, Romans 14, Jesus speaking = Matthew 5,

John 15:19,

Hopefully these are helpful

I believe it's possibly scriptures mixed together that are actually separate. However the main point you're getting from it seems to be in Paul's letters to the Church in Corinthian: 1Corinthians 7, note 1Corinthians 7:10-17,

Mark 10:1-31, Luke 16:13-31, John 4:1-43, Ephesians 5:33, Romans 7:2, John 8:1-11

Hopefully these are helpful

Adding to those:

1 Corinthians 9:26-27

" I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I MYSELF SHOULD CASTAWAY."

Phillipians 3:12-14

"Not as though I had already attained (the prize), either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I MAY APPREHEND that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.Brethren, I COUNT NOT myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. I PRESS TOWARD THE MARK FOR THE PRIZE of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

Ephesians 5:3-6

"But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.For this ye know, that no whoremonger, NOR UNCLEAN PERSON, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, HATH ANY INHERITANCE in the kingdom of Christ and of God."

Ezekiel 17:24

"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, AND IN HIS SIN THAT HE HATH SINNED, IN THEM SHALL HE DIE."

Matthew 25:1-12. The parable of the 10 virgins.

Matthew 25:14-30. The parable of the servants who were given the talents.

And so many other verses...

Genesis 4:3-24,

Note Genesis 4:4 "._..._respect unto Abel & his offering:"

Genesis 4:5 "But unto Cain & his offering._._."

Genesis 4:7

It seems to clearly say it was the person, giving it & how. There are other times GOD didn't accept bad attitudes, behavior nor their sacrifices, or offerings. Hosea 8:13, Jeremiah, Amos 5:22, Malachi 1:10,

Notice Isaiah 58, Proverbs 21:3, Psalms 19:14, Proverbs 21:3,

Proverbs 18:5,

Isn't it interesting how when Jesus was helping people, healing & teaching, His brothers in the Temple also were likewise ready to kill Jesus making Jesus sacrifice acceptable to GOD & not their own? Mark 12, Hebrews 12,

Romans 12:1,2, Ephesians 5:1-21, 1Peter 2:5,20,

Hopefully these are helpful

Ephesians 5:18

18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,

Amen Brother.

Ephesians 5:1-2. BE YE THEREFORE FOLLOWERS OF GOD, AS DEAR CHILDREN;

AND WALK IN LOVE, AS CHRIST ALSO HATH LOVED US, AND HATH GIVEN HIMSELF for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

Isn't that amazing Love! Christ did this whilst we were yet sinners! Ye didn't say only if you straighten yourself up I will die for you.

He died in our place while we were yet sinning.

He made salvation possible for the worst sinners ever, To all who come to him!

Paul says "And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

be ye therefore followers of God as dear children and walk in love as Christ has also loved us and hath given himself. Ephesians 4:32-5:1-2.

Her we see Love, Mercy, forgiveness, kindness displayed by the Lord.

We can't achieve this on our own. This comes by being connected to the true vine! John 15.

This is NOT expected from the world but if you are a child of God you should be able to exhibit this, especially amongst brothern.

This is not saying you shouldn't rebuke an apparent apostate.

I'm saying a supposed brother shouldn't display hatred towards another brother over doctrine, especially when that doctrine holds truth.

It reminds me of John 8:43-47.

You may not agree with someone when they speak truth but the spirit in you want cause you to hate the one that speaks it! And likewise if they're not.

1 John 4:20.

God bless brother.

S. Spencer. Amen brother and in addition Ephesians 5:1+2 or walk God inside minded remembering God is Love.

Brothern.

It's my opinion that when we take liberty to engage on a website or any other social gathering we tend to set aside the teachings for the Church and become liberal in our walk!

Just because a website gives us liberty to conduct ourselves in an open way doesn't mean you set aside what's given to the Church!! Our church guidelines are accepted.

It's as tho we leave our light at home. The Church is in the world to be a witness and have a compact on the lost,

So bring EVERYTHING you are taught and believe in to the site Church.

A BELIEVER CAN'T LEAVE THE CHURCH BEHIND! YOU ARE THE CHURCH.

Ephesians 5:7-21. be not ye therefore partakers with them.

For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

These and ALL of Paul teachings should be part of our everyday walk, not just with our local gathering on Sundays.

These things is set in order for a reason.

God bless.

Book of Revelation: Supplement to introduction

We are promised to receive a blessing for reading this Book; but that is for hearing it; and heeding it ( Rev. 1:3). There are things specifically for the churches and calling out in some cases just a few individuals who are "worthy" ( Rev. 3:4). The same principle applies to the Laodicean church for anyone who hears Him knocking at the door ( Rev. 3:20).

This book goes to the fate of the whole world; beyond what could be called this current "dispensation". It seems apparent to most scholars that after Revelation 4; there isn't any more mention of the church on earth until Revelation 20 with those in glorified bodies. To me; since we ALL are saved by grace I wouldn't dogmatically state that the age of grace ( Matt. 16:18) will be totally ended; only the function of the Holy Spirit once the restrainer is removed (the believing remnant church) at the rapture ( 2 Thess. 2:6). What we see change is the preservation of the church as an institution ( Matt. 16:18) and the normal experience in the Tribulation of martyrdom ( Daniel 7:21). What remains as a common thread is being WORTHY and having garments of white as our spiritual clothing ( Ephesians 5:27; Rev. 19:18). In order to achieve this status now; we need to be living unspotted from the world and to a large extent patiently waiting until the coming of the Lord; after the Rapture martyrdom will be the norm. Instead of arguing whether those who are left behind are lukewarm believers or all new converts; it is better to understand the concept that all those He has chosen will eventually come to the faith. The main harvest of countless souls attests to the fact that SOME repent when judgments come; while others of course harden their hearts beyond hope. As Jesus stated it is blessed for those who have NOT seen the Son of Man ( John 20:29). It is clear by the sixth seal who God and Christ are; but by then there is only a clear choice to worship God or Satan.

When we talk about Communion ( his Words ) we need to realize that there is a hidden Agenda in Communion with him.....His Words are the Bread of life but his Words are also the good Seeds that are gona form a baby Christ in us.....There is a Child hid in the waters of the Word....Remember when Pharoah's Daughter came to the Nile to wash a type of baptism of the H.G...She found a Child hid in the River....And that lil Child became her very own Son.....There is a Child hid in the waters of the Word....The bread of LIFE Communion.....Thats y i tell folks that there is a hidden Agenda in Communion....Its Child birth.....Even in the O.T. the manna from heaven was like Coriander seed....The seed of the sower is the bread from heaven and what initiates the New Birth....The bread of LIFE... that good seed is also the Word the bread of life...These things are HID from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes.... Rev 3:17 Remember the Hidden manna was a New Name simply b/c the New Name is symbolic of a New baby Christ that is gonna be born in us who eat his Hidden manna Communion .....Thats y the Woman is giving birth to the Children... the H.G the Children of Promise....The kingdom....Unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.... Ephesians 5:26 .....Speaks of the Cleansing water of the Word....But in this river of the Word there is a Child hid....The H.G....The Children of Promise...An Israel of God....You are made CLEAN by the word i have spoken unto you.....The bread of life is his Word...

..... Rev. 3:20....Behold i stand at the door and knock if any man hears my voice ( his words his seed ) And opens the door....I will come into him and Sup Sup (Communion) with him and he with me ....This is when he KNOWS us and his good seed is sown in our hearts but its also the bread of life..And thank God that this knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...Which is an intimacy with him initiating a birth of H.G..

Mae,

That is my understanding from the account of Moses' death and burial in Deuteronomy 34:1-7 It says God buried Moses in the valley in the land of Moab, perhaps below Mt. Nebo where he last spoke with God.

T. Levis

These more than helped a lot. Thank you.

These are scary to envisage though... yet must be true because God does not lie.

The Book of Revelation, I think I should finish reading this one ahead.

David Brother,

Is it true that Our Heavenly Father buried Moses secretly?

Gianni, Amen ! This is really wonderful. Thank you because it reminds me, it is true that 1000 years for us is only 1 day for God.

Amen , how beautiful it is to think that God wants everyone to be saved.

Richard S. Friday,

Thank you Richard. I got it. Yes Jesus obedience was really overwhelming , amazing... I couldn't convey with my own words. We Christians must indeed overcome fear. Practice strengthening faith. I always mention the Holy Spirit of God and Jesus when praying to the Father. Really trying my best sometimes to understand the SCRIPTURES.

Thank you David. It indeed will really take a long while. What is really needed is for us to have the faith like the mustard seed. I am thinking of how hard it is to get a passing score to be with Jesus in eternity , a believer should endure all the tests and persecution! and most of all is to love even your enemy.

Thank you Doug. My big brother's name is Douglas.

I do believe your answer is true. I have read some scriptures sparingly . One of those were Jesus words saying " in my Father's house are many mansions , if it weren't so I would have told you , I got to prepare a place for you ... " This sounds so comforting and your answer to my question really adds up so beautifully. I think I need to read the Bible from beginning up to end.

God bless you Doug , and everyone here !

Because he wants as many as possible saved.