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Alex, the Holy Ghost has GRACED (his works) you an understanding that most can't discern because they look through physical eyes instead of spiritual eyes. ALL IS OF GOD. In God's appointed time each man will come to the knowledge of the Son of God ( Ephesians 4:13).

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

Ecclesiastes 9:1 For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, AND THEIR WORKS, are in the hand of God;.......

Psalm 65:4 Blessed is the man whom thou chooseth, and causeth to approach unto thee; we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, even thy holy temple.

Psalm 92:4-6 For thou, Lord, hast made me glad through THY WORK: I will triumph in THE WORKS OF THY HANDS.

(vs 5) O Lord, how great are THY WORKS! and thy thoughts are very deep.

(vs 6) A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.

GBU

Hello, My question is: In Psalms 37:11; 29 it speaks of the righteous and the meek will inherit the earth.

Also Mathew 5:5 Jesus said "Happy are the meek for they will inherit the earth."

If Christian's are to go to heaven when they die, how is it they will inherit the earth?

Also is the Old Testament primarily for the Jews?

Is the NT for the Jews and Gentiles?

What does it mean in Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul that sinneth it shall die? Does this mean there's no life after we die? Same with Ecclesiastes 9:5,6 "The living at least know they will die, but the dead know nothing. They have no further reward, nor are they remembered.

6 Whatever they did in their lifetime-loving, hating, envying-is all long gone. They no longer play a part in anything here on earth. NLT

I was once a Jehovah Witness and I've come to realise they don't practise the Truth. So please help me try to understand what the true message if the gospel is.

I have many more questions, but it will take time to understand it all

Thanks Trish Western

Ecclesiastes 9:5

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."

King James Version (KJV)

"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."

Ecclesiastes 9:10

"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?"

Psalms 6:5

"Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?"

Psalms 88:12

"Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this dayFor David did not ascend into the heavens"( Acts 2:29, 34)

Our hope in Christ is the hope of the resurrection.

"For as by a man (Adam) came death, by a man (Jesus) has come also the resurrection of the dead." 1 Corinthians 15:21

Sorry for your loss!

To whoever is upset about not being able to pray to there lost loved ones ,or talk to them. Be happy that the Bible is here for us and it is very True and when it says the dead no nothing, the dead no nothing!!! I lost my mom when I was 29 a day before my bday so I can relate how it may be saddening to learn this , but you have to believe it so if you believe. Be glad you have Jesus to talk to he will get you to God! Amen

Besides ecclesiastes 9 -5,6 ...Where else does scripture speak on the dead not knowing anything

Explain verse 11 and how it applies to the people of today.

No, just until they die. The dead no nothing. Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward for the memory of them is forgotten.

As reading verse 12 where it says "man knows not his time is like a fish and bird" they are taken in an evil net. Proverbs 1:17 Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird. Says the fish prayer : Oh God deliver me from the net of the fisher!

Praise God for his word. I appreciatted the commentary from Godwin where he said not by smartness neither by strength...But by God's grace man become successful.This verse is not discouraging us from going for knowledge or skills, go after them but acknowledge that is the sovereign judge. God bless us.

WendallBriggs: A person goes to neither Heaven or hell when they die, the Bible clearly tells what death is in Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalms 6:5, Luke 8:52-56, John 5:28-29, there are more just look. In Genesis 3:4 Satan told the woman Eve Ye shall not surly die, Satan started the lie that a person lives when they die and is the father of all lies. The 2nd coming of Jesus there will be a resurrection

He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see? He mocks the sufferings of a child of GOD in the sight of my Holy Father. He speaks evil of this woman (my own blood,) not seeing that a pit is digged not for her, but him: her blood is on his hands. Nevertheless through envy of the devil came death into the world: and they that do hold of his side do find it.

One that Looked Good and now babbling about no oxygen from smoking all them cigarettes hoping to find The Fountain of Youth: There's no Such fountain / There is a Fountain at The Cross, Where All Can be Made New( 2 Corinthians 5:17) Works of The Flesh( Galatians 5:19-21) Thou Shall Not Suffer a Witch to Live( Exodus 22:18)

Eccl. 9 instructs me how to go about running and completing the race I've been assigned to by Almighty God. From the beginning of time he has equipped me with "the measure of faith" in which to be victorious. Each race is different for each of us. Know, we are equipped by his power and might and to lean/depend not to our own understanding, but to look to him, the author/finisher of our faith

Verse 11 shows the harsh reality that sometimes one is just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

"For man also knows not his time.." Thus the things that are highly esteemed of men are abomination in the sight of God. We were created and made in the image of God; so we should act like God, think like God, have the same kind of character and behavior and natural disposition as God. We ARE to know our times and prepare our ways after what is good and pleasing to God. Repentance, faith in Jesus!

As a believer in One God, and his son Jesus, a risen savior, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, the body dies goes back to dust, and the spirit goes back to The God Who Gave It.....this is my belief.

God has set time for everything and he goes by it, this timetable include everyone, yet we must trust Him in faith and walk in petiance and obedience.

man must work!

It does not look like "a little city" is the "world" because in V. 14; there is nothing here that describes the world. "few men" "a king came against it", "and built great bulwarks against it". And the "Poor man" cannot be Jesus because in V.15 it says"yet, no man remembered that same poor man."Would like to see scripture that calls Satan a "king". He is referred to as the "Prince of darkness"

My comment did not have the verse; Ecclesiastes 9:3 " : yea also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead."

GOD is so grteat he has created a man and women for his glory so we should always honor the commendements of the lord jesus christ our lord we should be an example before god and people thanku all glory to god

Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of You In the grave who will give You thanks? Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. Isaiah 38:18 For Sheol the grave cannot thank You, Death cannot praise You Those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your truth. Psalm 115:17 The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor any who go down into silence. Why do Christians not believe these clear scriptures, which categorically disprove the doctrine of the immortal soul? Notice, the Bible says that when a person dies his memory ceases, he cannot praise God and he has no knowledge or wisdom. In other words, the soul of a person without a body is not conscious. The concept of the immortal soul was the result of pagan beliefs developed by Greek poets and philosophers. The Greek philosopher Plato fully developed the concept of the immortal soul, and this belief infiltrated the Roman Catholic Church and subsequently the Protestant churches. The Bible teaches resurrection, which is a rising from the dead. This is in direct opposition to the pagan belief in an immortal soul. Resurrection is the glorious central truth of the Bible. The Bible says that Jesus Christ earned resurrection immortal life for each and every person through His death on the cross and His resurrection from the dead.

Ecclesiates 9:15 If one should look at the characteristic of WISDOM and also the end-product of WISDOM, one will come to understand the fact that one of the products of WISDOM is UPLIFTMENT or PROMOTION.But in this case the writer shouldn 't have ascribed the word WISDOM to the poor man in question. The man was not a man of WISDOM from biblical perspectives.For instance, JUDGES 11:1-11 but was knowledgeabl in that regard. I therefore, do not try to oppos or contradict that biblical illustrations of this story,but rather giving a clearer differentiation between, 1, being KNOWLEDGEABLE, 2, and being fill or full of WISDOM.I do not equally subscribe to or mean that one should try to get his or her rewards through mental or diplomatic manipulation but in most cases we should learn to lean on GOD just as in the case of Mordecai in the book of ESTHER 2:21-23.

We are in the last day now. Only God 's Grace that keeps us going. Without God 's Grace we can not achieve great things from God.

As a Christian, we should knowledgeable of the fact that God is just,He is not like man that is not stable in his promise.God alone has the power to change any condition of life that is not suitable,but the point is we should be patient and wait on Him.God does not choose a person base on what he had acquired or how smart you are.the final phase of the verse makes God clear in fulfilling His promises to His children that wait on Him.But TIME and CHANCE happen to them all.

Ecclesiastes 9:11 The last statement "time chance fall or happen to them all " meaning, not by smartness,not by strenght,not even by human wisdom or understanding,but by GOD 'S grace. It takes grace to be a winner in any race of life,to be victorious in any battle of life, successful in every other aspect or department of life. This is exactly what the writer was trying to picture-out in Ecclesiastes 9:11.

so what I learned about verse 9 is that we have to belive what gods says and we love him

This verse teaches us to lean on God and wait for ur turn, for success in life is not about only skill and knowledge.