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Exodus 23:14, Nehemiah 9:6-38,
1 Thessalonians 5:1-23, Act 1:7-11, Daniel 2:20-22,
Psalms 16:7, Matthew 21:31-41, Daniel 7:23-27, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Isaiah 33:6, Jeremiah 8:7, Ezekiel 12:27, Daniel 7:2-27, Daniel 9:2-27, Daniel 11:2-45 -continues- Daniel 12:1-4, Luke 21:5-36, Revelation, the whole book,
Psalms 106:3, Psalms 31:15,
Deuteronomy 18:10, Deuteronomy 18:14, 2 Kings 21:6,
1 Chronicles 12:32, Esther 1:14,
Psalms 9:9, Psalms 62:8,
Matthew 16:2-3,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
69 of those 70 weeks have already been fulfilled
Nothing changed, Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Israel because the covenant was only with the house of Israel, it had to be fulfilled before the new covenant could be made. We read Jesus told the woman at the well, salvation is of the Jews, John 4:22. The old covenant had to be satisfied, fulfilled by flesh living a perfect life, the price was paid the contract was completed. Jesus said He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 15:24.
He also told the apostles not to go but unto the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 10:6. Even after Jesus ascended, they only went to the Jews until Peter had his dream and Paul was called, this was to fulfill the prophecies. The word given to the Gentiles was still a mystery but as God told Abraham all nations were in the plan, Genesis 26:4. But, yes when Jesus first came was only for the lost sheep of Israel, the covenant had to be confirmed to the Jews first. Daniel 9:27 Romans 1:15-17. It was also to make the Jews jealous and save some as it was written, Romans 11:8-14.
God bless,
RLW
All prophecies concerning the last days are based upon Daniel 9:24-27, which presents the 70th week of Daniel. The 70th week is actually a 7-year period, not 490 years. In prophecy, 69 weeks have passed. Right now we are living in a time period known as the "Times of the Gentiles." It's the time from the death of Christ, until the rapture. We do not know the time period. We are in that period now; it is called the time of the Gentiles.
The next event to happen is the rapture of the church. And from the rapture of the church until the second coming of Christ, it is called the 70th week of Daniel. We have had 69 weeks, 483 years. And those 483 years ended at the crucifixion of Christ. But now, there is this time period which is called the time of the Gentiles, between the death of Christ, and His coming for His church. And we don't know the time frame, but as soon as the church is removed, as soon as the tribulation period begins, there will be seven years, that is, one week, 1 seven in Jewish literature. There will be seven years of tribulation. This is known as the 70th week of Daniel.
Thank you, I enjoy and benefit from your posts. I know many feel the same as you on the rapture of the Church. Not to debate but something you may check out, Daniel 9:25 tells us it will be 69 weeks from the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem unto the Messiah. We know Jesus' ministry was three-and one-half years. So, by scripture half of the seventieth week was fulfilled when Jesus was crucified (cut off), the other half has also been fulfilled, check it out. No need to reply in the love of Christ.
God Bless,
RLW
Esther 4:1-16
Esther 4:11, (the law was death sentence) with 1 exception) The king hadn't asked to see her for over 30days,
Esther 2:19
Also significant history : Daniel 1:1, They were captives of war
Esther 2:5-7, Esther 2:10, Daniel 9:1, Daniel 6:8, Daniel 6:16-17, Ezra 4:6-24,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
There are different understandings, Preterist, Historicist, Idealist/Spiritual, Dispensationalist, and Futurist interpretation of the end times, things that are taught that will happen. Your question of pre, mid, or post is based on when the Church will be taken to heaven to be spared the tribulation. When did this theory or doctrine start? There are some writings before, but the roots started in the late 17th century but were made popular by John Darby and C.I. Scofield with the study bible with footnotes helped promote the doctrine.
You as well as many on this site may believe this theory and out of love, I just ask that you study this for the truth. For those like me in the upper age group may not still be living but those who will be when these things start many will be lost if this theory is wrong.
The pre, mid, and post is based on taking the 70th week of the prophecy given to Daniel 9:24-27, and verse 27 is interpreted to be the 70th week and moved to the end time, the he in this verse is the antichrist, and seven years are placed at the end time, and your question is before, in the middle, or at the end of the tribulation.
Does scripture tell us we will be spared tribulation or the wrath of God, are they the same?
If the 70-week prophecy given to Daniel has been fulfilled what does this do to this theory?
Does scripture say there will be a third coming or just the second coming of Jesus?
Does 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18 tell us our destination after we meet Jesus in the air?
If the falling away and the son of perdition is revealed happens before Jesus returns, can there be a rapture before these two things happen?
These are just a few questions, is this theory true or part of the delusion?
Did God spare all the ones before us from tribulation?
Our hope is eternal life in Jesus Christ not being saved from the death of this fleshly body.
May our ears be open to the Spirit of truth.
God bless,
RLW
I believe the same observation could be of many church-going folks, the building with whatever name that's put on it has become the church, not the people, lost in routines, many are called but few are chosen. It is sad when attendance is put above all. When Jesus first came was for the lost sheep of Israel, and to fulfill the law and the prophets. To confirm and fulfill the first and confirm the New in, the likeness of sinful flesh, what we see in Daniel 9:27 that many put at the end time.
I agree hell is not a place for the condemned and paradise is not a place for the righteous as holding places of the dead. I have not found one verse that say we go to heaven. In Revelation 20:14 we see the last enemy; death and its holding place hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire. In scripture when we die the grave is our home of corruption and if the same Spirit dwell in us, we will be raised by the Spirit that raised Christ, in incorruption in our immortal glorified body, death is swallowed up in victory.
When Jesus first came the land was highly influenced by Greco-Roman philosophy. Whether we believe it or not it still has influence on today, the meaning of death, immortal souls, monasticism that Jesus called Nicolaitans, and more.
As we see in Matthew 16 and Matthew 18 Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom and what is bound or loosed in earth will be done so in heaven. The reason of all the parables was the mysteries of the kingdom was not for them to know but for those who were chosen.
I agree in most of your post but if I understand correctly those after resurrection being brought into the fold. I struggle lining that up with the white throne judgment of the rest of the dead. Revelation 20:11-15. These are not all lost people, there will be some not cast into the lake of fire because the book of life is opened and only those not written in it will be cast in to the lake of fire.
Have a great day and God bless,
RLW
Matthew 24:24, Matthew 24:1-51, Daniel 9:21-27
I also do not believe Matthew 24:15 has yet happened, but we're told to be watchful
Luke 12:1-59, Daniel 11:24-45, note Daniel 11:35, Daniel 12:1-13, Ezekiel 39:11-29,
* 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 the 'great falling away' hasn't happened yet either
Hopefully these are helpful
Prophecy has been interpreted by misunderstandings and assumptions. It has been misheard and many false teachings have people looking for things that are not coming. Prophecy shows that God is in ultimate control.
When studying prophecy, God's word (scripture) the Holy Spirit is the interpreter we are not. Prophecy is generally understood after it has been fulfilled, it confirms the word of God and the prophet is of God.
If we have decided the answer by the teachings we have been taught, or other opinions before we have gone to the Bible in prayer for the facts and truth, the only things we will see in scripture will line up with the conclusion we have already come to. Where did the seven years in this teaching come from? Has the 70-weeks in Daniel been fulfilled already Daniel 9:24-27? Is the rapture (catching up or away) 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 the same as the resurrection, the day of redemption? Is the great tribulation the same as the wrath of God? Is our blessed hope, to be spared great tribulation? How about all the martyrs before us, are we more worthy?
Does scripture tell us our destination after we meet Jesus in the air? Is there any scripture that says we will be taken or we go to heaven? Are there other scriptures that tell us it will be after the great tribulation? Does scripture tell us every eye shall see Jesus coming?
These are just a few questions, I hope you take them out of love for study and are not offensive. I could tell you what I believe but if it is different, will not help. Pray and let the Holy Spirit lead you to the truth. It will not be overnight and some questions will never be answered. Your question is the covid shot the mark of the beast, it is not. When that happens Satan is permanently cast down and the beast and the false prophet are full throttles. The mark will be based on worship, whoever will take it will know what they are doing.
We are told to study and to try the spirits.
God bless,
RLW
Daniel 9:24-27
Daniel 12
Job 26:10
Matthew 10:20-23
Matthew 24:11-14
1 Corinthians 1:8-9
Revelation 2:25-27
1 Peter 4:7
1 Peter 1 whole chapter relevant
Ephesians 3:19-21
Hebrews 3:12-15
Luke 21:8-10
There are many more, I hope these help
God waits until we settle ourselves. Like in Psalm 23. We rest, get ourselves quieted. Wait upon the Lord. Then he responds to us by the person of the Holy Spirit, now.
As an example, in Daniel chapters 9-10: Daniel prayed to the Lord; expecting a speedy answer, but it was delayed. Finally Gabriel the Archangel appears with a message. Daniel 9:21
Daniel had been fasting; he was visited by an Archangel again. Daniel 10: 5-21
Michael the Archangel had to fight off principalities and powers, so Gabriel could get the message to Daniel.
See, sometimes it takes fasting and prayer and waiting on the answer, but it will come. If there is a delay of the answer, we are to stand fast with our faith. Jesus doesn't have to send Archangels to give us answers now. We have The Holy Spirit within us. He speaks to our born again spirit. We just have to listen, until He does. He may give you a scripture or passage to read.
My best advice: turn off the media and sit before the Lord and listen. Calm yourself. Write down anything that comes into your spirit.
Mishael
Romans 8:14: "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God". Often we read this verse as given, but I like to also read it backwards: 'if you're a child of God, then you WILL be led by the Spirit of God'. A similar rendering, but the emphasis being on 'being led'. We could add, 'where the Holy Spirit wants to go, we will go as well - what He wants to do, we will do as well'. His indwelling us is more than an earthly temple to dwell in, but to get the Work of God accomplished through us. But it's a sad day when we resist Him. Every blessing brother.
God bless.
Back in 1987, I heard the Spirit's Voice, whilst in prayer, directing me to go out & serve in overseas Missions. I was even told the name of Mission organization which I hadn't heard of before. I could hardly believe that deep sense of conviction I had in me. I continued to pray about it asking if that was truly God's Message & if He would order my future actions to meet that end. I shared this encounter with no one, but waited for God to move. So, in a series of events, with the sale of my home to a buyer who had never seen house (I hadn't even advertised it nor employed a selling agent), the buyer who lived in the UK whom I'd never met, & who paid me a price that was above the market value, I sensed the Lord was in control & directing me. And with various other occurrences (providing all the finances, etc.), the Lord made it amply clear that this Word was from Him & He was in control.
Sorry, I can't interpret your dream about your ring & the Word given to you, but I can share with you, that if that's God's Word to you, then hand that matter over to God, asking Him to make that Word abundantly clear to you in the days & weeks ahead, making it a very real burden upon your heart, & to open up the way (even through the obstacles) to see the goal achieved. If God is not it, then leave it be & continue to praise Him with all your heart & remain faithful in every aspect of your life. In so doing, you will surely hear from your Heavenly Father again. Blessings.
can you please shed some light on this dream of mine
thank you
Please don't take this as against you, I just thought you may want to test the waters and this is in love. I watched the video you posted, very interesting, I loved the art work it made his presentation. It was very well put together, using math along with scripture tells the story, but you may want to check out some of his math.
I will make it short and only point out a few things and again this is not to start a debate on this and it is not directed towards you but just point out things for truth in his video. First if Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday the next day is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread a Sabbath, and Friday the women could have gone to the tomb.
If you take a date like 1948 and multiply it by a number and divide the answer by the same number it will come out the same number. 1948x20=38960 divided by 20=1948. The year 1948 is derived by 365.24-day years not 360-day years. Take the 70 weeks, if we use prophetic years, 70 x 7 = 490 x 360 =176400 days divided by 365.24 = 483 years not 490 years for the 70 weeks.
If we take 457 B.C. as a start day adding 69 prophetic weeks it would be 69 x 7 = 483 years x 360 = 173880 days divided by 365.24 = 476.07 prophetic years. Dates each year is derived by 365.24 days each year. 457 B.C. + 476.07 years = 16 A.D. not 24 A.D. when Jesus first came, you have to substract 1 for not 0 year.
We see in ( Nehemiah 2:1-8) it was in the month of Nisan not Tishri.
Regardless of what date Jesus first came, it was 69 weeks from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah, ( Daniel 9:25) and He was to be cut off after 69 weeks ( Daniel 9:26) He was here 3.5 years of the 70th week before He was crucified.
This may not make since but I hope you can make since of it.
God bless,
RLW
Abomination that maketh desolate.
Your claim:
ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP (both at the same time), there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days (42 months, the period of Christ ministry in the flesh, first coming).
Your claim.
The daily sacrifice was taken away (at the same time) and the abomination that maketh desolate (sinful flesh is enmity to Spirit) set up (at the SAME TIME); at Christ death and resurrection. "YOU SAY THAT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION "
Well Earl " ENTERTAINING" YOUR LOGIC, The flesh was crucified at the death of Christ. And the Spirit brought life at the resurrection. ( 3 days later )THAT'S NOT THE SAME TIME.
and THAT WHAT MAKETH DESOLATE ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC WOULD BE THE SPIRIT. Since it entered the temple/our bodies after the flesh was crucified. This is your interpretation of Daniel 12:11. You claim it's all spiritual.
Here's further proof why I can't accept your view on this. How do you fit these scriptures into your logic.
Daniel 9:27. And "HE" SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR "ONE WEEK:" and in the midst of the week "HE" shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
And Jesus here:
Matthew 24:15. When ye therefore shall "SEE" the abomination of desolation, SPOKEN of BY DANIEL THE PROPHET, "STAND" in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
How could this be speaking of Christ death and resurrection when Jesus lays out events, warnings and a promise of his coming immediately following in
Mathew 24:16-51.
This is why I say spiritualizing "ALL" the text you can "Attempt to make it say anything.
I hold the view that this is a future event,
Mid way through the tribulation period.
Here's a Googled Discriptural outline.
Abomination of desolation"[Notes 1] is a phrase from the Book of Daniel describing the pagan sacrifices with which the 2nd century BCE Greek king Antiochus IV replaced the twice-daily offering in the Jewish temple, or alternatively the altar on which such offerings were made.[1] In the 1st century CE it was taken up by the authors of the gospels in the context of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in the year 70,[2] with Mark giving Jesus a speech concerning the Second Coming,[3] Matthew 24:15-16 adding a reference to Daniel,[4] and Luke Luke 21:20-21 giving a description of the Roman armies ("But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies"); in all three it is likely that the authors had in mind a future eschatological (i.e., end-time) event, and the activities of the anti-Christ.
( Mid week tribulation. )
Daniel 9:27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
This will be "LIKE" what happened by Greek king Antiochus IV. in 2nd century BCE.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
We have forsaken your righteousness and have sinned greatly before you. Lord turn your anger away from us and hear our prayers and shine your countenance upon us, your saints, and forgive us Lord for we have no one else to turn too. Bless us now Lord that all may know that we worship you and that we are your children.
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for hearing our cry. August 26, 2021
Good name, we have a high priest who knows our infirmities because Jesus was tempted just like we are, but He lived a perfect life. We see in ( Daniel 9:21) the speed angels can travel, from wherever Gabriel was, even if he was in heaven before Daniel had finished his prayer Gabriel showed up. It is like time and space do not have any bounds on them. If he came from heaven, I'm not sure we could even calculate how many miles that would be.
All through the Bible, we see the power angels have and can relay visions like the angel took John many places and showed him visions in Revelation. Angels can operate in our physical realm in a physical body and the invisible realm. I agree with you, our defense is scripture as it is written, and our faith in Jesus. Jesus's name is above every name.
God bless.
RLW
I don't see how you can associate "THIS THY DAY" and the days of thy PEACE With Revelation 18.
And In Luke 21 the desolation was the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
But that's not the "ABOMINATION" of desolation.
Luke 21:20. And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Totally different than what's described here in Daniel , and what Jesus verified in Mathew.
No Image/idol is set up in the temple as described in Revelation 13. This is what Jesus and Daniel is talking about.
Matthew 24:15. When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL the prophet, STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Daniel 12:11. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
This will last 1290 days. That's 30 days past the 2nd half of the tribulation. There is no mention of that happening in 70 AD. as described in Daniel 12 as mentioned or here in Daniel 9.
Daniel 9:27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: AND IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK HE SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, AND FOR THE OVERSPENDING OF ABOMINATIONS HE SHALL MAKE IT DESOLATE, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
I leave off there,
I'm sure we will have to agree to disagree. Not interested in a debate.
God bless.
Here's what I believe When Jesus finally ALLOWED them to present him as KING!!
Genesis 49:10-11. THE SCEPTER shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until SHILO come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
( BINDING HIS FOAL UNTO THE VINE, and HIS ASS'S COLT UNTO THE CHOICE VINE; )he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
Zechariah 9:9. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy "KING" cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the MESSIAH THE PRINCE shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
God bless
Many believe in the seven years at the end times. Those seven years are taken from the seventy-week prophecy given to Daniel. My advice is to study.
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Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Seven weeks + threescore and two weeks = 69 weeks this is when Messiah (Jesus) first comes, when He is baptized. The next verse tells us the Messiah is cut off (crucified) after 62 weeks, this was when the restoration and repairing of the walls, streets, and gates of the city of Jerusalem by Ezra and Nehemiah ( Nehemiah 2:8-17; 4:17). Troublous times when their enemies tried to stop the building ( Nehemiah 4:7) the first 7 weeks. We know Jesus' ministry was 3.5 years.
This is 3.5 years past 69 weeks so that puts Jesus' crucifixion in the middle of the seventieth week.
I posted a 3-part post on this a few weeks past may you can pull it up and may it help you study this. Not all of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, what Jesus is saying is about end times.
Jesus did cover part about end times but some was telling His Apostles which we see in Mark there were only four, what they were going to have to face before the destruction of the temple. What Jesus said at first before they ask Him, not one stone would be left on top of another.
There was much of what Jesus said happened before the temple was destroyed, Wars, earthquakes, famines, false prophets, check out Simon in Acts 8, and there were more. The apostles were put in prison, beaten, and killed.
The main fact, if sixty-nine and one-half weeks is shown in scripture that has already past, you cannot put a full week at end times.
RLW
In order to better understand the end times, you need to know that all prophecies concerning the last days are based upon Daniel 9:24-27, which presents the 70th week of Daniel. We have not reached the 70th week yet. 69 weeks have passed, but right now we are living in what is called "The time of the Gentiles" which began on April 6th, 32 A.D., the time of Christ's death on the cross. But once the church is removed from the earth, the 70th week (7 year period) will begin.
The 70th Week of Daniel is divided into four sections:
1)Pains of birth: first 3 years of the Tribulation. ( Matthew 24:4-14)
2)Pivotal point: the mid-point of the Tribulation. ( Matthew 24:15)
3)Perils of tribulation: the last 3 years of the Great Tribulation. ( Matthew 24:16-28)
4)Promise of his coming: the Second Coming of Christ. ( Matthew 24:29-31)
All end time prophecies are centered on the Jewish people. Matthew took his outline of the 70th week of Daniel from Mark chapter13 and they both recorded the Olivet discourse. The misunderstanding of the prophecies of the last days is based upon combining Luke's account with Matthew's and Mark's account as if they are the same message. They are not the same. So what happens is we read Matthew and Mark's account of the end time and they match with each other. But then we read Luke and that's where the confusion comes in, because they are not the same!
Luke's version includes some of the same information only given at a different time, and covers different stages of the 70th Week of Daniel. For instance, In Luke 21:5-6, Jesus was still in the Temple area. And Luke 21:7 records different questions. When will these things be? What sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? Luke covers the first part of the pains of birth in Luke 21:8-11.
This by the Bible can not be confirmed, Daniel told when the Messiah would come Daniel 9:25, 483/476.4 years from the going forth to rebuild Jerusalem and the walls. They went forth around 446 BC minus 476.4 360-day years=29 AD. If you take in Luke 3 it was the 15 th year of Tiberius Caesar who came to be emperor 14 AD, which also puts it in 29 AD. Also, Pontius Pilate ruled from 26-36 A.D. The start of John the Baptist ministry.
Jesus went to 3 Passovers John 2:13, John 5:1, John 6:4 The fourth Passover He was crucified, John19:14. That would put 1080 days from the first Passover Jesus after he was baptized by John the Baptist. This leaves 180 days so, this would put the baptizing of Jesus in the month of Tehri, September- October our months. 40 days of temptation and then choosing the twelve will put them before the wedding in Cana of Galilee and the first Passover Jesus went after He was baptized by John the Baptist.
Jesus gave up the ghost at 3 PM the ninth hour on 14 th day of Nisan the 5 th day of the week. Jesus' ministry was 42 months or 1260 days. God placed Jesus at the exact day and month of the year the first Passover was done in Egypt. Jesus went into Jerusalem on the 10 th of Nisan the day the lambs were taken up and held until Passover.
Jesus was placed on the cross at 9 AM the same time the first Tamid lamb was sacrificed and put on the altar. All during that day, all the people's sin offerings were placed on the altar. Jesus gave up the ghost at 3 PM the same time the last Tamid lamb was placed on top of all the sin offerings for that day on the altar. The First and Last. Also, the time the priest started catching the blood of people's Passover lambs and pouring it on the altar.
If God caused just the things I listed to be done at the exact time. If God wanted these dates to match to the exact second, it would have been so. May you have a purpose for your question. All is possible through faith in Jesus Christ.
RLW