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  • Adam - In Reply on Acts 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello, it's always been Saturday and hasn't changed. Some confuse Sabbath with a day to gather and worship.
  • Landon Lavigne on Isaiah 47 - 3 years ago
    Do I have to be baptized in water to be saved?

    Yes ! Luke 24:47,48 Mark 16:16,17 , Acts 2:38 , Acts 4:12 , Acts 19:1-6 , Acts 5:32 ,

    1 Corinthians 14:2,22,39. Acts 1:8 , Acts 2:4 , John 21:15 Jesus loves us!

    Landon

  • Suzy McCawley on Acts 2 - 3 years ago
    Amen! I am happy and blessed because of Jesus Christ our Savior. Can someone please tell me the scripture where the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday?
  • T Levis - In Reply on Psalms 74 - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 28:9, Numbers 12:6, Deuteronomy 18:15,18,19,20,21,22,

    Deuteronomy 13:1-5,

    Acts 21:10, yes Acts 2:18, Joel 2:27,28,29

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    "The Day of the Lord " 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 13:6-13, Ezekiel 30:3, Joel 1, Joel 2, Amos 5:18-20, Obadiah 1:15, Zephaniah 1, Zechariah 14:1, Malachi 4:5, Acts 2:20, 1Thessalonians 5:2, 2Peter 3, Revelation 10, notice Revelation 10:7, Revelation 11:18,19,

    Matthew 25:31-46,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 24 - 3 years ago
    Psalm 24 and the eastern gate

    Suleiman in 1540 apparently sealed the eastern gate in Jerusalem; which is apparently where the Messiah is going to return at the Second Coming (or shortly thereafter after defeating His enemies). We can see this in the beginning of Ezekiel 43 as well as Ezekiel 44 in the closing of the gate. There are other scriptures in Nehemiah and Zechariah which point to the glory of the Lord to the east as well.

    The repeated theme in verses 7 through 10 could also refer to Christ's triumphant return to the heavenly city and throne when He sat at the right hand of God after accomplishing His work here on earth ( Acts 2:33; Hebrews 10:12 and about 100 ADDITIONAL cross references to that affect!)

    When we see His triumphant return; His vestures are dipped in blood. ( Rev. 19:13; Isaiah 63:3). It is certainly possible that when He first entered heaven there was some of the blood from His atonement placed there ( Hebrews 9:12). I would take this verse literally; although there is commentary from some famous people (I will leave unnamed) who say to the contrary.

    A couple other themes seen in verses 1 and 2 show the original earth and that after the flood that God established. To be in heaven according to verses 3 through 5 have certain characteristics. We need to heed not swearing deceitfully as well; for any covenant or vow before God is something we are to keep our end on (and I am placing the marriage covenant there as well). God is eternal therefore not planning to change His covenants; with the exception of the New Covenant that He established abrogating the sacrifices of the O.T. for a better one ( Matt. 26:28; etc.) Verse 6 states a generation of them that seek Him; that could be the whole resurrected group of saints; or the Millennial generation born on earth after He comes; or both.
  • E. - 3 years ago
    Father, Lord Jesus again I ask for your strong intervention, your help ( Psalm 50:15) concerning the current situations and overall, your protection ( Ps. 91, 34:7, 3:3, Isaiah 54:17 and all other promises in the word), for healing and restoration ( Ps. 23:3, Jer. 17:14, Joel 2:25), deliverance ( Acts 2:2), for salvation ( 1 Timothy 2:4, Acts 16:31), for us to walk in a manner pleasing to you and for your Agape love in our hearts for you and others and for the fullness of the Holy Spirit ( Eph. 3:14-19). Father, Lord Jesus please also do the same for all others in need and please help all suffering (esp. children, people in war zones like Ukraine etc...so much suffering in the world). Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray. Amen.
  • Alex N - 3 years ago
    Hi Dr. Lyle Lee....Let me bring your attention to the Woman at the well a Samaritan a Gentile.. John 4:1 Jesus tells her of the gift of God which is the H.G. That CHILD OF Promise..There is only 1 Promise.. Luke 24:49 kjv Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. the Promise and that was the only Gospel he Preached..Being bornnagain of an incorruptible seed etc.. Acts 2:39...The Promise is unto you and your children....which was the gift of the H.G....A living being had to be born in them which was the H.G. Their new heart and new spirit was the H.G. That New Creature neither circumcision nor uncircumcision ( not Jew or Gentile )...but a new Creature...Which was the H.G..When he breathe on them they received the H.G... John 20:22...The gift of God and there is only 1 gift which is the H.G....Dr. Lee don't ya see that 2 gospels wd make him a double minded man which is an abomination to God...And a hypocrite...2 Gospels wd make him a hypocrite...Double minded man... James 4:8 a double minded man is unstable in all his ways...We know our Lord was not double minded preaching 2 gospels...Gbu Lyle, but ya need to rethink this...I always agree with you..But not on this one...

    .....When he said my words are spirit and life that implies living words...The 1 and only Gospel is a living being the H.G....That Child of Promise..The only Gift of God ..Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in...That Child is the H.G. as that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit...Our new innerman has to be born in us Which is the Child of Promise... Romans 14:17 for the Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G....This implies that the H.G. IS THE Kingdom...And there is only 1 kingdom and 1 bridegroom
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Alma. The Bible doesn't specifically speak about the Blood Moon, at least the apparent redness of the Moon that we've seen in recent times. The only references to that future time is found in Acts 2:20,21 and Revelation 6:12 (at the opening of the sixth seal). Here, it speaks of the "moon becoming as blood", which maybe referring to a much deeper redness than what we have seen now.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Psalms 48 - 3 years ago
    Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:1-11, Mark 16:16, Luke 3:21, 1Corinthians 12:13, Acts 2:38,41, Acts 8:12, Acts 10:48, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:4,5, 1Peter 3:20-22, Acts 22:16,

    Romans 6, Colossians 2:12,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Here are some scriptures in that regard:

    Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 1Samuel 15:35, Job 10:21,22, Job 34:22, Job 38:17, Revelation 2:7, Luke 23:33-43, Luke 16:19-31, Psalms 6:5, Psalms 48:14, Psalms 49:14, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Isaiah 38:18, Romans 7, 2Corinthians 7:10,

    Psalms 56:13, Psalms 89:48, Proverbs 10:2, Proverbs 14:27, Ecclesiastes 9:4,

    Psalms 116:15, Proverbs 14:32, Isaiah 9:2, Isaiah 25:8, Hosea 13:14, Luke 18:33, John 8:51, John 5:24, Acts 2:24-27, Romans 5:10-21, Romans 6:2-23, Romans 8, 2Timothy 1:10, 1John 3:14,

    Jeremiah 21:8, Ezekiel 18:31,32, 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 1:18,

    Hebrews 2:9-18, Revelation 20, Revelation 21,
  • E. - 3 years ago
    Father, Lord Jesus again I ask for your strong intervention, your help ( Psalm 50:15) concerning the current situations and overall, your protection ( Ps. 91, 34:7, 3:3, Isaiah 54:17 and all other promises in the word), for healing and restoration ( Ps. 23:3, Jer. 17:14, Joel 2:25), deliverance ( Acts 2:2), for salvation ( 1 Timothy 2:4, Acts 16:31), for us to walk in a manner pleasing to you and for your Agape love in our hearts for you and others and for the fullness of the Holy Spirit ( Eph. 3:14-19). Father, Lord Jesus please also do the same for all others in need and please help all suffering (esp. children). Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray. Amen.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Spencer.

    A bit late but I just got some time to reply to your post to me last week..

    Yes those words of Jesus were directed to apostles.

    Paul writes to Timothy. 2 Timothy 2:1-2 "... And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also." So apostles taught others ... and sometime later on all those things were written in what we call the New Testament. In Corinthians and Ephesians Paul writes about the gifts and ministries God appointed to His church to serve the believers. So there is an order and an hierarchy in God's church. It is not a vague thing where everybody acts the way they like and think it is proper.

    What I wanted to point out in my posts is that it is wrong for christians to stay out of any congregation. One can not grow spiritually that way. They need to integrate themselves in a congregation where they will be taught the proper teachings by people who God selected and annointed (or we hope so) to do that work. As I read in posts some people believe that they can stay alone and figure out the right teachings by reading themselves, by taking part in sites like this one etc believing that the Spirit of God will lead them to the whole truth. I wanted to point out that this is a wrong attitude, it is not how God planned it to work. God's plan is (if practically possible) to be a (an active) part of the church. And when I say church I don't mean the vaguely figured universal church, but a specific congregation of which they should be a part. To offer their work to fellow christians and receive work by them in a post where God places them. To be a part of the Body of Christ in that specific congregation.

    In my church we often use the following example:

    Acts 2:42 "And they (the believers) continued stedfastly in the (1)apostles' doctrine and (2)fellowship, and in (3)breaking of bread, and in (4)prayers". These four things are essential for our spiritual growth.

    GBU
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hey Someone, who cares,

    Who is an antichrist? Christ is a translation of the Greek word Christos which means anointed one. The Hebrew word is Mashiach translated Messiah which means the anointed one, the chosen one. One who God fixed for a specific purpose set apart to fulfill God's plan.

    Jesus said many times that He/Him sent me, Matt. 10:40 Mark 9:37 Luke 10:16 John 5:30 and many more times. Also, Jesus said He came down from heaven not to do His will but to do the will of Him who sent Him in John 6:38, and Jesus said this in John 6:35-40.

    We see when Jesus was baptized, He was anointed not with oil but with the Holy Spirit/Ghost, Matt 3:16 Mark 1:10 Luke 3:22 John 1:32, and John 3:34-36 Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure. Peter confesses and puts clear the Messiah/Christ, and the miracles, wonders, and signs God did by Him Acts 2:22, also read 23-39.

    "God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit", manifest Greek word phanero; revealed, made known, 1 Timothy 3:16 John 17:1-8. God gave His only begotten Son, God sent His Son who was come in the flesh, tempted as you or me, and the spirit of antichrist is denying that is true, John 3:16 1 John 4:3 2 John 1:7. Christ is not part of Jesus name it is a title, Jesus is the Messiah, Jesus is the Christ.

    A liar is he who denies or says Jesus is not the Christ/Messiah, and he is an antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. If we deny the Son, we have not the Father but if we acknowledge the Son we have the Father also, 1 John 2:18-24. You must come to your own understanding not mine, with open mind, prayer, and the Holy Spirit guiding you, you will.

    These verses about the antichrist paint a picture of a deceptive seducing spirit and the people that have been deceived, just like Eve 2 Cor. 11:3. My understanding of these verses does not refer to the beast that will ascend out of the bottomless pit that has come to be called the antichrist.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • T Levis - In Reply on Acts 2 - 3 years ago
    My advice : stay in the WORD of GOD, stay in prayer. 1Thessalonians 5:17, 2Timothy 2:15,
  • Ronald irving on Acts 2 - 3 years ago
    god would not let sleep, because troubles i have been dealing with.i had not picked up my bible in a long, i did his time in the wee hours of the morning. i opened my bible to where my ribbon was and it happened to be acts. i read and a calmness came over me. peace came. have had that feeling in a long time.pray that stays.

    thank you jesus
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Mark,

    My comment is that salvation is conditional whether people believe it or not, because its what the Bible says. It's full of calls to action and challenging us to change our behavior. Most people will not be saved Matthew 7:13. Salvation is with grace but is only for believers/followers- a choice that each person must make. One way to summarize this action appears to be genuine belief and faith in Jesus Christ. John 3:16. That is an action and choice.

    So, if someone does not believe, one can presume the unbeliever will not be saved. This already "offends" a lot of people, because some want to justify themselves in their own mind while doing the bare minimum they assume God wants. Some have been deceived into believing obeying God is "bad." But believing is only one of many action verbs the Bible challenges us to do. Other actions fall under this category of genuine active belief and following Jesus too. All these verses in the Bible are true and are equally important. Some like to cherry pick one, but ignore others and assume they don't apply, but they all apply and are true and are God's word.

    believe:

    John 3:16

    follow Jesus:

    John 8:12

    deny himself:

    Luke 9:23

    confess:

    Romans 10:9

    faith:

    Ephesians 2:8

    hearing:

    Romans 10:17

    repent and be baptized:

    Acts 2:38

    keep commandments:

    John 15:10

    love:

    Matthew 22:37-40

    There are many more. Some falsely assume by obeying God they are doing 'works' and that is 'bad', therefore, obeying God is 'bad'. No, that's not what the Bible says, and obeying doesn't mean you're saved by works or that people who obey believe that.

    My last comment is that James and Paul are consistent. Some assume Paul was anti-works, but only if you cherry pick a few verses and ignore large parts of his book can that conclusion be drawn. Paul was very much pro-obedience as the following verses demonstrate:

    Romans 2:9-10

    1 Peter 1:5

    1 Cor 9:24-27

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    Galatians 5:1-4

    2 Timothy 2:10

    Hebrews 10:26

    2 Corinthians 5:10
  • Gwen Johnson - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Ms. Smiley, my minister did a very informative sermon on Baptism a couple of Sundays ago. If you would go on facebook and pull up the Richmond Ave. Church of Christ video, and listen to that sermon I'm sure you will be edified and encouraged to obey the gospel. Also I know some people don't do social media: if that is the case with you you can always read from the King James version of the Bible these scriptures: Acts 2:38, Mark 16:15-16, Acts 22:16: I Peter3:20-21; Acts 10:48, John 3:5; Luke 7:30. Also read 2 Corinthians 5:17 with Galatians 3:27. If after reading these passages you are still unsure or have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at (817) 739-4933. The scriptures I gave you are in reference to specifically the purpose of baptism. There are others that speak to the action itself and who are candidates for taking the action, let me know if you would like those. But God's plan of salvation for us all is a 5-step process given in the book. You must first Hear the gospel, believe what you hear, repent, you must confess faith and then be baptized. Just know this is GOd's plan. Not mine or my minister's. In closing just know,"We speak where the Bible speaks, and are Silent where the Bible is silent."

    Sister Gwen Johnson
  • Henry - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Gigi. It doesn't say in Acts 2:38. Thet were baptised in water, and in Acts 22 it's

    Just says Paul Aries and be baptised water never mentioned so I'll stick with

    Scripture and not add.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Yep, both Jesus and Peter commanded for people to be water baptized. What is so hard about obeying even a request made of our Lord let alone a command? Matthew 28:19; Acts 2:38; 10:48. Even Paul says he was baptized by Ananias in Acts 22:16.

    If Pamela desires to be baptized, then no one should discourage her. It was never discouraged for believers in the Bible.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    If you're feeling a need, want to be baptized, it may be the HOLY Spirit leading you. Even during the New Testament Church, there were some that were baptized by John for repentance that realized they needed to be re-baptized. Acts 19:1-6,

    Acts 2:38,

    To understand Baptism more, if your interested in studying it fully. I recommend searching "Bapti" in the [Search words or verses] tab, then it will show [Modify Search] big red button. Click, it. New options show, multiple tabs, tap [Partial Word Match] it should respond with= 91 instances 4 pages of where this KJV Bible app has every variance of the word, Baptism, Baptized, Baptize, Baptizing. Then I usually click the underlined phrase [Sort By Book Order].

    You can Search using each word individually too, but those will be like 51, 7, 22, 4, instances, with repeating scriptures, for each word individually searched.

    Hopefully this is helpful.
  • Paul - In Reply - 4 years ago
    But the Bible speaks of things to be revealed beyond what's written,

    ...for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. ( Revelation 19:7)

    Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. ( John 16:13)

    But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. ( 1 Corinthians 2:10)

    Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, ( 1 Cor. 14:39)

    And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: ( Acts 2:18)

    And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: ( Acts 2:17)

    Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. ( Amos 3:7)
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Paul,

    I agree that some perceive these as conflicting verses, but just because some assume something is contradictory does not make it so.

    Why can't both verses be true?

    Ephesians 2:8-9 is true that we are saved by grace alone through faith and James 2:17 is also true that faith without works is dead. Why exactly can't these both be true? The entire chapter of James 2 already explains this. For instance James 2:18 "...shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." Isn't it possible that faith and belief is like an overall umbrella and the fruit are good deeds and works that can flow through as a result of genuine faith? And if no works, then it would be like the parable of the sower in Luke 8. The scriptures do not contradict each other.

    Romans 2 also explains this. Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

    People seem to like to cherry pick and pluck out only Ephesians 2:8-9 and ignore James 2:17. Or, some may pluck out only James 2:17 and ignore Ephesians 2:8-9. But the reality is it is both. Both are God's word and both are true. All of the scriptures must be taken cohesively in context.

    I believe this can happen with other topics too. For instance, yes, someone can just read John 3:16, and conclude that only "believing" is all someone needs. While true, it's assumed it's genuine belief is active and would also include Acts 2:38, which introduces more actions such as repenting, and being baptized. These are not contradictions as some may assume. They instead compliment each other and are both true. People can get a simple understanding with light reading of broad statements and a deeper understanding by deeper study. I think this is by design. Some believe the Bible is a living Word of God and that the more we read that God can supernaturally reveal more and more insights that we didn't notice the first time.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Psalms 139, Deuteronomy 4:30-40,

    Words of Jesus : John 10:15,16, Matthew 15:24, Matthew 18:10-14, John 3:16, Romans 8,

    Matthew 3:2, Matthew 4:17, Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, Acts 3:19,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Brenda - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Must be born AGAIN of water and Spirit. Jesus is

    not talking about your nature birth/1st birth, but a second birth, which is spiritual, according to his will. The book of Acts is where the birth of New Testament/Jesus church begins, the Lord's disciples show how to do this, are first to obey this: Peter preached this first message to the Jews, later to all/non Jews.

    Acts 2: 38: Repent, be baptized every one of you in

    the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your

    sins(blood Jesus shed is applied/ Hebrews 9:22), and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    All books after Acts are written to the churches that are already born again, as Paul writes:

    Romans 6: 1 - 6. Actually all of chapter 6.
  • Mari B - 4 years ago
    Olga, yes Acts 2:38 is correct. Matthew 28:19 does say "in the name of". That name is Jesus. Test we see not one person was water baptized in the book of Acts in titles. And in John 3:3-5 Jesus said water & the Spirit are needed to enter into the kingdom of God. So many don't even think water baptism is needed when it's clearly all thru the New Testament bible. So many scriptures. Thank you for obeying the Lord Jesus. Blessings to you
  • Giannis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 11 - 4 years ago
    Dear Alvis.

    Throughout the history of christianity wine was always used for communion. Not just wine but sweet wine which was the type of wine used in ancient times Acts 2:13 "Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine." New wines are sweet, they contain glucose in large quantities. That grape fruit juice practice is a recent "invention" of the previous, or so, centuary.

    Paul in his letter to Corinthians talks about believers who got drunk but to understand that we have to see how communion was performed in the early days. The communion was not done during the church service as probably nowadays most churches do. In Sunday evenings (Sunday was a working day at that time) believers sat on tables to eat together and the communion was done at the end of that supper, just like Jesus and apostles did on that day. So some believers had a bit too much of wine during the meal (not during the communion) and got a bit drunk. Others ate their food without expecting the rest, who probably were poor and had little or nothing at all to eat. So Paul adresses this sort of things. If you read the history of christianity, you will find out that those meals were called "agapes", from the greek agape which means love. That practise was kept until aprox. the middle or end of the 2nd centuary AD and was eventually abandoned since christians were then thousands and practically couldn't gather together in huge tables. So the communion was eventually transfered from the tables to the Sunday service. During emperor Constantine's time Sunday was declared a holiday and the church service together with the communion were transfered from evenings to mornings. A brief account of the practice of the early church.

    GBU
  • Doug - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Adam I am trying to be open about this subject. I was in church today and this passage opened. I never noticed it before. I wonder how many in this post has missed it too and never had a chance to ponder it. Acts 2:22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:" In controversial topics our minds run to the verses we already know and we try to keep convincing ourselves. I asked one of ministers if he noticed it. He didn't. He believes in the deity of Christ.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on James 1 - 4 years ago
    Giannis,

    Part 2

    Scripture describes death as sleep and the grave/hell is our home until Jesus returns and releases us from the pains of death, Acts 2:24, and the hope we have, Rom. 8:11. We see in Psalm 6:5 Job 14:12-14 Job 17:13-16. When a person dies, he "lies down" in death and does not arise out of that sleep until his regeneration at the resurrection. Psalm 89:48 Psalm 115:17 Ecclesiastes 9:5-10.

    Jesus said this referring to eternal life, Matthew 16:26. Sory for being wordy but I hope this sort of explains my understanding. If our soul is immortal, Luke 16 is a real story, I believe scripture is clear, our soul is us and is mortal, there would be nothing to resurrect. Where would be victory over the grave and death? 1 Cor. 15:54-55 1 Cor. 15:14.

    Jesus's soul along with his body was as He said of Jonah/Jonas, Matt. 12"40. In Acts 2:22-35 Jesus was not left in Hell and did not see corruption, in vs. 24 God loosed the pains of death because Jesus was sinless, and death had to let go.

    1 Peter 3:18-20 is hard, we have spirits in prison who were disobedient in the days of Noah, and the waters of the flood compared to the baptizing waters saving not washing away the filth of the flesh but for the conscience toward God. Our conscience, our hard drive our testimony, 2 Cor.1:12 tells us with the help of the Holy Spirit if we are good to go and it is pure.

    There is no clear indication of when Jesus did this so to say it was when He was in the tomb would be just an opinion.

    Spirits in prison from Noah's time building the ark? Why that time and not all the time up to His resurrection? I may be wrong, but I do not know of the dead being called spirits and being in prison, but the angels who left their first estate are locked in chains of darkness. Revelation gives another look at what that prison may be. This one will be full of opinions that would need setting at a table discussion, so I will leave this one to your understanding.

    See part 3
  • Giannis - In Reply on James 1 - 4 years ago
    Dear Ronald

    Where did Jesus' soul go after He died on the cross? Acts 2:22-35 tell us. Pay attention to verses 27 & 31.

    Also in 1 Peter 3:18-20 it is written:

    "18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

    19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

    20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

    1 Peter 4:6 talks about the same thing.

    "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."

    Finally, if the story of the rich man and Lazarus is actually a parable and not a real story, then Jesus made up a story, OK? But a parablet must resemble to reality. It must be respective to the actual facts, it can not be something totally different from the real situation. A parable is actually a story which uses imaginary images to describe the same events of the real story.

    God Blessings


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