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  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Deloras. Not much is given in the Bible (NT) on that subject. Even though 1 Corinthians 14:35 states that "it is a shame for women to speak in the church", yet we see in Acts 1:14, "These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren."

    This was the first instance of the operation of the new Church of Jesus Christ, when all the disciples, Jesus' brothers & the women met in Jerusalem in the Upper Room. They had just witnessed the transfiguration & ascension of their Lord & one can only imagine how their hearts & spirits must have been filled with praise & joy which expressed itself in prayer & praise. Yes, I see that the women also prayed, joining the others present there. Now the Apostle Paul gives another teaching on the covering of heads whilst praying (1 Corinthians chapter 11), but that's another aspect that has caused much division.
  • Landon Lavigne on Judges 2 - 4 years ago
    Do I have to be baptized in water to be saved ? Yes !!!!! See Bible Study Proof below:

    Mark 16:16

    1 Peter 3:21

    Acts 2:38

    Acts 4:12

    Acts 19:1-6

    Acts 10:44-48

    John 3:1-6

    1 Corinthians 14:2,22,39

    Acts 2:4

    Acts 5:32

    Acts 1:8

    John 21:15

    Jesus loves us! Landon
  • Messenger - In Reply on Philippians 1 - 4 years ago
    RESPONDING TO Victor Anyanwu on Philippians 1 asked...

    An unsaved person told me yesterday he was told "there is nothing like rapture" Is it true?

    You are replying to a comment by "Victor Anyanwu"

    Hello Victor,

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17

    verse 16: these Dead in Christ shall rise first. for example:

    1. ( John 11:11) Lazarus he died again

    2. ( Acts 7:55,59, 60) Stephen after saying this, he fell asleep in death. (the vision he saw was in heaven)

    3. ( 1 Corinthians 15:6) 500 seen Jesus appear after his death. but some of

    them died.

    4. Some of Jesus apostles died of old age, most died under roman oppression (by the "ad." "c.e." Jews)

    (they were put in prison like Paul as you brought out in Philippians 1), some died in captivity.

    Verse 17: Those alive or remain will like Jesus will go to heaven.

    ( Revelation 14:3/ 144,000). notice the first died. if the second is to be caught up together with them.

    they will have to die from flesh...to be taken from earth. ( Acts 1:9,10; Revelation 20)

    so no... rapture is not a word in the bible. when Jesus was impaled the scripture said

    after that his spirit ( Matthew 27:50 invisible/ john 4:24) yielded up. no human can see the spirit.

    ( Jas. 2:26)

    Hopefully this helps

    Hello Victor,
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Donna. In Acts chapter 2, we find the Apostle Peter (not Moses) speaking to the people gathered there. You might recall, that it was the Day of Pentecost, i.e. 40 days after Jesus had died & ascended into Heaven. And on that Day, the Holy Spirit was poured out upon Jesus' disciples, so that they were now born again inwardly & empowered outwardly to live victoriously for Jesus & do great works through His Name ( Acts 1:8). And the first evidence of this Spirit indwelling was the Gift of Tongues (ability to speak unlearned languages) & as a sign to those others who came to see & hear this phenomenon that was never heard of before.

    This is when the Apostle Peter stood up & spoke to them, that they weren't filled with alcohol speaking gibberish, rather they were filled with God's Spirit & this was the evidence to them. So Peter preaches to them & the verses you enquire of, are a part of that message: that this sign was in fulfilment of the Scriptures & is taking place only because of Jesus, who was put to death by the Jews but God had raised Him from the dead. Verses 32,33: that this very Jesus Whom God had raised from the grave, is now seated at God's right Hand sending forth His Spirit to all who believe in Him.

    After hearing this message & by the Spirit's moving, many were convicted in their hearts, repented of their sin, & were baptized in water. About three thousand folk were saved that day. And verses 42-47: these all continued to worship God, fellowshipping with each other, sharing their possessions with those who had need, & remembering Jesus' Death by breaking bread together. This fledgling Church was vibrant at that time, even with the apostles teaching them & the Word of God spreading to different parts by the apostles. Yet sadly, over time, both the Gospel & Truths in God's Word have been hammered & tarnished with devilish beliefs by those who should have remained faithful, but there are still a few believing & preaching the Truth.
  • Messenger - In Reply - 4 years ago
    You are replying to a comment by "Carleton"

    Hello Carleton

    Matthew 3:11

    Acts 1:4

    Hope this is helpful
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery (C.R. Stam) - continued:

    8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such ( Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    8) The Mystery Concerns individuals ( Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17)

    9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth ( Isaiah 2:3-4; Isaiah 11:1-9; etc.)

    RDf

    9) The Mystery Concerns "all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3)

    10) Prophecy concerns Christ's Coming to the earth ( Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4)

    RDf

    10) The Mystery Explains Christ's absence from the earth ( Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3)

    11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is not contemplated ( Matthew 28:19-20; Matthew 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17)

    RDf

    11) Salvation "By GRACE Through faith" Alone lies at The Very Heart Of The Mystery! ( Romans 3:21-26; Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9)

    12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly to the twelve ( Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8; Acts 3:19-26)

    RDf

    12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly to Paul ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Ephesians 3:8-9; Colossians 1:24-27)

    13) The prophetic program revealed through many of God's servants Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21)

    RDf

    13) The Mystery revealed through one man: Paul! ( Galatians 1:1; Galatians 1:11-12; Galatians 2:2; Galatians 2:7; Galatians 2:9; Ephesians 3:2-3)

    14) Old Testament writers frequently did not understand the prophecies made through them ( Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12)

    RDf

    14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might understand The Mystery revealed through him ( Ephesians 1:15-23; Ephesians 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10; Colossians 2:1-3)

    {borrowed from "Things That Differ" by C.R. Stam}
  • SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE RAPTURE - In Reply on Mark 1 - 4 years ago
    2 Corinthians 5:10

    John 14:1-3

    Luke 10:20

    Mark 13: 32-37

    Revelation 3: 10

    Matthew 24: 1-51

    Philippians 3:20-21

    Romans 8: 18-19

    Acts 1: 7-11

    Daniel 12: 1-2

    1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

    1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18

    Revelation 12: 1-17

    Revelation 19: 1-21

    1 John 1: 3:3

    Titus 2:13

    Matthew 16:27

    Colossians 3:2-4

    Luke 21: 34-36

    James 4:8

    Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25

    John 3:16

    We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.

    On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)

    Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.

    FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.

    [hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,

    Mishael
  • Rick - In Reply on Acts 1 - 4 years ago
    Hi Louis Rivera In regards to Acts 3:19 from context telling them to repent and be converted would lead to the age of Grace that we live in now. That's what my understanding is, the only other reference I see is In Isaiah 28:11+12 eleven is talking about speaking in tongues. 12 To whom he said This is the wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest and this is the refreshing; yet they would not here. Please feel free to give other opinions. In His service
  • Louis Rivera on Acts 1 - 4 years ago
    What is the time of refreshing in Act 1:19?
  • Women in the Bible - In Reply on 1 Chronicles 2 - 4 years ago
    Deborah in the book of Judges. Ruth in the book of Ruth. Rehab in the Joshua chapters 2 and 3.Hannah in I Samuel chapters 1 and 2. Abigail in I Samuel chapter 25. Michal(not so good example) in II Samuel chapter 6. Jezebel(wicked) I Kings chapters 19-22, and II Kings chapter 9.New Test. Mary(mother of Jesus), Mary with the alabaster box Matt. 26, Mark 14, John 12. Small list of women ministered to Jesus found in Luke chapter 8. The adulterous woman in John 8. Acts 1:13-14(list of women). Dorcus Acts 9:36-42. Rhoda and some women Acts 12:11-16. Lois and Eunice 2 Timoty 1:1-6. Hoped this helps! God Bless!
  • Dave - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Clayton Acts 1:8 also Acts 2:38 also Acts 9:18 last but not least Romans 10:9+10 don't see any water just baptised or clothed with or endued with power from holy spirit. I'll stick with the scriptures
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Donna.

    If you are referring to Acts 1:9. They were probably Angels being that the scripture emphasize they were in white apparel.

    God bless.
  • Keith R Cornish on Acts 1 - 4 years ago
    Judas has his own place, which is hell ,cause he had a demon,and betrayed our LORD,yet it fulfill our destiny! When you understand this your, only a hour or two at the most from home , see you then,One LOVE church.
  • Joyce Byrd on Acts 1 - 4 years ago
    I like hearing it read to me
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 4 years ago
    Hi ART.

    Thanks for your input, our focus wasn't on any covenant it was on Truth. (Jesus)

    The Emphasis on our discussion wasn't on Gods covenant to Israel, My Emphasis was on the Power of the Holyspirit being able to reveal truth.

    You're right Jesus is speaking to Jews before the death burial and resurrection,

    However he didn't give them what he spoke about ( HOLYSPIRIT) until after his death burial and resurrection, And he told them to take the gospel unto the earth.

    Acts 1:8. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. This is the foundation being laid and Jesus the chief corner stone. And the CHURCH is built on it.

    God bless
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    To be baptised in His name is to confess Romans 10:9+10 which equals John 24:29 which equals Acts 1: 5-8 water has nothing to do with it its receiving god's Holy Spirit.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Last command given by Jesus Christ to the Disciples Acts 1:4-9 when you believe Romans 10:9=10 from your heart inner most part of your being. You receive Gods gift holy spirit, eternal life we become a Child of God. We are a new creation in Christ, by God through Christ we have been made righteous, sanctified, justified,redeemed, and have been given the ministry of reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5:19. what a package deal. God Bless.
  • Mishael - In Reply - 4 years ago
    I know what I heard from the Holy Spirit...who is the Spirit of Christ. He did Create Time.

    You skipped over all these verses:

    Genesis 1:14

    And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for DAYS, and YEARS.

    Psalms 104:19

    He appointed the moon for SEASONS: the sun knoweth his going down.

    1 Thessalonians 5:1

    But of the TIMES and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

    Leviticus 23:4

    These are the feasts OF THE LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

    Acts 1:7

    And he said unto them, It is NOT FOR YOU to know the TIMES or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his OWN power.

    Psalm 31:15

    15 My TIMES are in thy hand: deliver me from the hand of mine enemies, and from them that persecute me.

    This shows that God created, and is in control of Time. He said: In Beginning. The word THE isn't even in the Hebrew or Aramaic languages.

    For me, it would be sin to argue with God about a Rhema word given. He doesn't give those out like candy from His pocket.

    How many people do you think reject Gods part in Creation, because of archaeological discoveries and carbon dating? Why would not, now, introduce clarity? When "they" are digging up what they need to build the Third Temple.

    Your argument is with God. Not me. I hear, I speak. He's going to watch over His Word. Not me.

    I dare to say, there will be a huge harvest in the scientific community. They've been looking for aliens and planets they can colonize. Mining asteroids to see what materials they can make power with, for their space colonies. Sources for water. They just don't know that TIME is almost up.

    The Fig Tree is blooming. What is happening in Israel is not temporary. It's unprecedented. My only defense, is my Attorney, Jesus. Take this up with Him.

    Pray for the Harvest.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Chelsea you don't need anyone around to be saved and baptized Confess romans 10:9+10 and believe, I've known people who got born again in closets, hospital beds, jail cells, etc. that is between you and the father also to receive Holy spirit is the same thing, God is more willing to give than we are to receive. Also no body is good enough that's why we have a saviour its not given by merit its given because we need it and God knows that. All things of God are given freely, we just need to do whats written to recieve. Also you don't need water look at Acts 1:4-6 so believe and receive. God Bless
  • Jesse - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Shannon,

    You make some very good points. If I may just add my thoughts on water baptism for whatever it is worth. I believe water baptism is important but I also believe that it is to be done after salvation, not as a requirement for salvation.

    Jesus said in Acts 1:5, For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

    It is interesting that Jesus repeats what the bible says in so many places, is that the Lord's ministry is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. John says I baptize with water but the one coming after me baptizes with the Holy Spirit. And that's what He's repeating here in Verse 5.

    When a person receives the Holy Spirit they are cleansed. That's why it is called baptized. Baptize means two things. Number one, cleansing, and number two, identification.

    In 1 Corinthians 10:1, it says that the Jewish people were baptized into Moses under the cloud and through the sea. That's when the Red Sea was parted and they went through. It doesn't mean they had a baptismal ceremony. It just means that they obeyed Moses when he said let's go. And their identification was with Moses.

    Now those two meanings for the word "baptism," is what we celebrate today. The moment that I am saved, I receive His Spirit into my spirit, and I am cleansed. And when I get water baptized, that is a testimony, my identification that I have received Christ and I'm saved. That is called believer's baptism.

    Jesus' ministry is to baptize with His Spirit. When we receive Christ, we receive His Spirit. We are born of His Spirit. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is salvation. Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:13 says you are baptized with the Spirit when you are brought into the body of Christ, when you're saved.
  • Wilbur Reid on Matthew 28 - 5 years ago
    Matthew 28:19 KJV

    [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Acts 1:2-3,15,26 KJV

    [2] Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: [3] To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: [15] And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) [26] And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

    Acts 2:1,4 KJV

    [1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Acts 2:38 KJV

    [38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV

    [3] Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    Colossians 3:17 KJV

    [17] And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
  • Mr Gee on Ephesians 4:11 - 5 years ago
    The Criteria for being an apostle was to have seen the resurrected Christ ( Acts 1:22)

    Apostles and Prophets are the foundation of the church and Christ the Chief Cornerstone

    ( Eph. 2:20)

    There are no more Apostles and Prophets they are the foundation.

    The foundation of the church is The Word of God.

    Old testament Prophets wrote most of the Old Testament, the Apostles wrote most of the New Testament, except Jude a servant, Hebrews writer unknown.

    Apostles and Prophets were chosen by God for a special purpose, the Apostles were given power and authority to do the will of God.

    Any one claiming to be either a prophet or an apostle in this dispensation of the church would have to be considered FALSE.

    This is what brings "UNITY of the Faith"

    This is what keeps you from being tossed about by every wind of doctrine.

    Evangelists, pastors and teachers.

    Lastly if Apostles and Prophets were relevant in this era, Paul would have told Timothy to ordain them instead of elders. But Paul knew Ecc 3:1 "There is a season for everything under the sun" and he knew the season for apostles ended with him 1Cor 15
  • Joseph - In Reply on Acts 1 - 5 years ago
    It really does not matter it was a way of choosing number 12 . thanks for the info. .
  • Jesse - In Reply on Acts 1 - 5 years ago
    Joseph,

    It would be similar to drawing straws. Acts 1:26 says that they put forth lots. They cast lots. Casting lots was a very popular method used in those days. There are two ways. One way is you put a bunch of marbles in a bag, especially black marbles, and you put one white marble in and whoever pulls the white marble out, that's the one that's chosen for whatever activity you're doing.

    Another one is to put names on rocks and put them in a basket and somebody reaches in and pulls a rock out with somebody's name on it. This is called the casting of lots. It's kind of like our drawing straws.

    And they cast lots and the lot fell upon Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

    This is how they made decisions in those days to find out what the Lord wanted. Remember the priest? In the Old Testament, he had that pocket and there were two stones. One stone meant yes and one stone meant no. Whenever a question came up, he pulled the stone out and whatever was written on the stone would be the answer. That's the only way they could know!

    And then you have Luke Chapter 1 with Zacharias? When all the priests gathered together for their function for that week, all the priests would pull marbles out of this bag and the one that drew the white marble gets to burn incense in the Holy of holies.
  • Joseph Gibbs on Acts 1 - 5 years ago
    They drew lots ? What are drawing lots ? Like drawing straws ?
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 5 years ago
    Good day my brothers Earl and Spencer,

    As I would like to put my perception on "Heaven". I myself believe Heaven to be an actual place. Not just in us as stated in Luke 17:21. As we are the tabernacles of God where He dwells when we receive His Holy Spirit. Even as God is life and in everything weather Blessed to receive the Spirit of Christ or not. Job 34:14-15.

    The Holy Bible is a spiritual book though many, many, things are literal not just spiritual. God's wisdom is so divine that almost anything may be taken in both ways. For maybe a reason God knows why.

    Some things to consider I find fascinating. How both Enoch and Elijah were literally taken up by God in there human bodies and never saw a physical death. Genesis 5:24, 2 Kings 2:11-12. I believe Elisha literally saw a chariot of fire. In the book of Enoch there are amazing things we truly cannot comprehend.

    14:8 A vision thus appeared to me.

    14:9 Behold, in that vision clouds and a mist invited me; agitated stars and flashes of lightning impelled and pressed me forwards, while winds in the vision assisted my flight, accelerating my progress.

    14:10 They elevated me aloft to Heaven. I proceeded, until I arrived at a wall built with stones of crystal. A vibrating flame surrounded it, which began to strike me with terror.

    Paul stating about a friend with a vision in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. That he could not fully explain.

    Also that Jesus Christ in His glorified body( Luke 24:39) was able to appear and disappear. Also He was taken up into the clouds Acts 1:9-11.

    Fully understanding Heaven we are not to able. It is so beyond us it could be anything as nothing is impossible with God.

    I could go on and on about this but would be a very long conversation. Maybe just adding some people with NDE's having out of body experiences, in the spirit, able to testify of things going on when they were dead. Seeing their own bodies of flesh before them. Being taken up to be in the presence of the Lord.

    Glorious
  • Rod - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 5 years ago
    Hi Cam, If I may add unto some of the scripture S Spencer has already provided. The key to our faith and understanding is to read the KJV bible on a daily basis and a lot of our questions will be answered.

    Mark Chapter 10:14-15, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

    Acts 1:7-11, And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 5 years ago
    Hi Tamara.

    Part 1.

    Lets look at some history of the Jews to get an understanding what was the purpose for the tongues where it's first mentioned in Act ch 2.

    The Lord says in the Gospels he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    Israel was dispersed all over the then known world after the Babylonia captivity and until that day many remained away from Jerusalem and had NO KING TO SIT ON DAVID'S THRONE. "THEY WERE SCATTERED" NO SHEPPARD.

    AND PICKED UP OTHER LANGUAGES.

    So you see why the Lord said he come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    Around 600 years goes by.

    ""Plenty time to loose your way"" and some keys in the difficult Hebrew language.

    Now we come to the cross and the mission of the Holyspirit.

    The Lord sent his disciples to Jerusalem to do the work of the Father but wait to be empowered by the Holyspirit, and the spirit was poured out on everyone to RECEIVE/HEAR THE GOSPEL IN THERE OWN LANGUAGE.

    ( Acts 1:4. And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

    ( Luke 24:49. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

    Acts 2:4-8. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with OTHER TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.

    Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that EVERY MAN HEARD THEM SPEAK IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE-

    ( You noticed they weren't unknown tongues? )

    -And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

    AND HOW HEAR WE EVERY MAN IN OUR OWN TONGUE, WHEREIN WE WERE BORN?

    It seems here they were given the power to to "hear and understand" other languages.

    The other gifts of the spirit was given as well.
  • Ron - In Reply on Exodus 14 - 5 years ago
    Hey Don, if I may add to Chris and Jesse I hope you do not mind, everyone was looking for the Messiah to set up the kingdom then. Even the twelve apostles, no one knew he was going to be crucified even though Jesus told them several times, it was hidden from them, even Satan did not know the purpose of the crucifixion. When Jesus was resurrected the disciples still did not believe until Jesus appeared to them but they still asked Him if He was to set up the kingdom then. Acts 1:6 When they, therefore, were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

    If Satan had known he would have stopped the crucifixion because that would have stopped the plan of Satan's demise. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. The reason was fulfilling prophecy. Mark.4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

    They were told the time when the Messiah would come in Daniel 9:25 but their time was up. and the old covenant was to be fulfilled and the new was not yet revealed. Jesus came the first time for the lost sheep of Israel and only the chosen by God was shown Jesus was the Messiah the Christ.

    All the others, Matthew 13: 14-16 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

    God bless, Ron
  • Richard Duff - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15:5 - 5 years ago
    Hello Chris, re: I Corinthians 15:5,

    Please read Acts 1:13-26, in which you will see that Matthias was not chosen until well after Jesus' Resurrection AND His Ascension back into Heaven - somewhere about 40+ days after His Resurrection from the dead, best I think the contexts give us to try to figure this out, and "40 days" being indeed given in Acts 1:3 - Jesus appearing to the remaining 11 Disciples together, plus others as per Luke chapter 24, especially verses 9 & 33. "Eleven" are also spoken of in Matthew 28:16 and Mark 16:14, thus Matthias was not yet included with them.

    I think these are all collectively referred to by God in I Corinthians 15:5 as "The Twelve" for simplicity of clear definition and identification of who all is being spoken of...the central nucleus of the "Twelve" Disciples of Jesus as seen over and over in the Gospel narratives; and the number Twelve fully corresponding to the 12 Tribes of Israel as per the last line of Revelation 21:12, with that clear relation given to the "twelve Apostles of The Lamb" in Revelation 21:14.

    To say it another way and make a further point, I do not believe this I Corinthians 15:5 terminology of "The Twelve" constitutes anything of a discrepancy or contradiction of Scripture, when at that time discussed by Paul "eleven" would have been perhaps the more exacting number; the word "twelve" being just a simplification that clearly explains who is being spoken of, and that keeps the discussion going as everyone would understand what was being said and who was being referred to!


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