Discuss 2 Thessalonians 3

  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Part 2

    Apostle Paul was super deep into Judaism as a Pharisee.

    Acts 22:3

    I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

    Apostle Paul took in Timothy and circumcised him to welcome him in Judaism.

    Acts 16:1

    Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, namedTimotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:

    There is no proof that Apostle Paul wrote Hebrews, but he did have a love for his Jewish people. Apostle Paul always addresses himself in all his epistles.

    2 Thessalonians 3:17-18

    17The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.

    Colossians 4:18

    18The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

    18The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen.

    All we know, that Hebrews was written to Jews for the coming Tribulation of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

    Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Thessalonians Part 6):

    2 Thessalonians 3:7 - For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

    The word ought is the word necessary. And the word follow is the word MIMETAI. That is the word for mimic.

    2 Thessalonians 3:8 - Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:

    Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought;

    Interesting that the word nought is the word donation. That's interesting! We didn't eat any person's food as a donation. But we worked in labor and travail night and day, in order that we not be chargeable to any of you:

    2 Thessalonians 3:16 - Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all.

    Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. That is, through everything. He is the God of peace. He's the Lord of peace. May He give you peace always through all things.

    Literal translation: The Lord is with you all.

    Now if He's the Lord of peace and He's with me all the time, then I can experience the peace of God. He's with me all the time.

    This is all I have for 2 Thessalonians. I'll begin with the pastoral letters next, Paul's letters to Timothy and to Titus. What a great study those letters will be!

    God Bless!!!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (2 Thessalonians Part 5):

    2 Thessalonians 3:1 - Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

    The Greek word for "free course" means to run, that it might just run, not be hindered.

    2 Thessalonians 3:3 - But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

    But the Lord is faithful, who will establish you, and keep you from evil. Both are statements of facts, who will establish you, and who will keep you from evil. The word evil has the definite article. He will keep you from (the evil one).

    2 Thessalonians 3:5 - And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

    And the Lord direct your hearts, into two things: into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. Interesting the emphasis here, the patient waiting is HUPOMENO, which is the word that Paul says represents this life, to remain under the circumstances of your life here on the earth.

    That's what it's all about. What do I do while I'm waiting for Christ to come? Remain under! That's how you learn how to trust the Lord.

    2 Thessalonians 3:6 - Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

    He says now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, (and this is a "heavy one" here), that you withdraw yourselves from every brother that is walking disorderly, and not after the tradition which you received from us.

    The word withdraw is a very technical word. It comes from the word to stand, but it means to purposely stand off from someone. To withdraw means to stay away from. People who profess to be Christians but are not walking the way Paul describes a Christian should walk, he says as you receive from us!
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    God's ways are the only way . We tend to forget that God is our priority.

    Proverbs 14:12

    There isaway which seemethrightuntoaman, but the end thereofare the ways of death.

    Adam was Eve story was the start of worldwide death for all of us. Adam's way got him into trouble with God. Adam knew if he eats of the forbidden tree, he would die spiritually.

    Genesis 2:16-17

    16And theLordGod commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

    17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    We can not use our ways to get to Heaven, it will fail. We have to know we are lost and born a sinner.

    Romans 3:12

    They are all gone out of theway, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    God will only direct His way for us.

    1 Thessalonians 3:11

    Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, direct ourwayunto you.

    God will always point our hearts to Jesus Christ.

    2 Thessalonians 3:5

    And the Lorddirectyour hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

    The only way to Salvation is to believe God's word.

    Romans 1:16

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God untosalvationto every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    Trust God for Salvation today.

    Ephesians 1:13

    In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of yoursalvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    The gospel is located 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 just believe it and that's it.

    Ray in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    I am saved by believing the gospel.
  • Mishi21 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    ..praying with you

    2 Thessalonians 3:3

    But the Lord is faithful, and He will strengthen you [setting you on a firm foundation] and guard you from the evil one AMP
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 year ago
    2 Corinthians 4:2 KJV) Can guide them through their lives becoming children of God the Father of nations "But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil." 2 Thessalonians 3:3 KJV

    Manifest- Plain, open, clearly, visible to the eye or obvious to the understanding, apparent, not obscure or difficult to be seen or understood.

    Elder Graves Quoted Paragraph 1: Line 5-13 Allows me to plant a seed of spiritual fruit when I am in love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Giving children identified as atudents equal opportunity of education to achieve their goals."But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil." 2 Thessalonians 3:3 KJV

    Allows me to be rewarded. 1 Corinthians 3:8-9 KJV

    Reward- return for the good done, for kindness, for services and the like. Can consist of money, goods, or any return of kindness and happiness. Career/Employment

    According to California Department of Education supports high - quality educational programs for California diverse student population through its educational leadership role and places great importance on cultivating a diverse staff that understands and promotes the intellectual, ethical, cultural, emotional, and physical growth of each student. Matthew 16:18 KJV Ephesians 2:20 KJV

    Govern now making me blessed & rewarded into education system. According to U.S. Department of Education to promote student achievement and preparation for global competitiveness by fostering educational excellence and ensuring equal access.

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    Blessed- Happy, prosperous in educational affairs; enjoying spiritual happiness, and the favor of God, enjoying heavenly felicity.

    Children today that we have here today are called students who by law are required to attend school to be educated, read, write, solve math problems.

    My faithfulness meaning steadfast in the fruit of the Spirit Galatians 5:22-23 KJV -1 Corin 3:9
  • Momsage - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Rebecca: Please give these scriptures to Colleen. God will give her the answer so she can be at peace, believing He has it in hand. His thoughts are with her and He will bless her.

    Jeremiah 29:11-13/ 13) For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. 12) Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you. 13) And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

    2 Thessalonians 3:5/ And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.

    Proverbs 21:/ The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

    (Also the heart of one of His children!)

    Psalms 32:8/ I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jaz.

    Part 3.

    How should Christian treat one another?

    We are to be at peace with one another, forgive one another, have mercy on one another.

    Just a few references.

    1 Thessalonians 4:9

    Ephesians 4:32

    Galatians 5:26

    Galatians 6:2

    Matthew 7:12

    1 John 4:7

    However, we don't lie or deceive one another for the sake of peace. The truth hurts sometimes but it promotes spiritual growth providing that the Christ spirit is in the person.

    BELEIVERS SHUNNING OTHER BELEIVERS.

    To shun is to deliberately avoid something or someone. In the Bible, the word shun is applied to evil. Job 1:8, Job 28:28, Proverbs 3:7-8 Proverbs 14:16. So, shunning evil is good.

    There is scripture that promotes excommunication. Matthew 18:15-17; 2 Thessalonians 3:14. but do we do it for harm or Good? What's the intent?

    In any case, it would seem that extreme forms of shunning, such as considering someone "dead," utterly ignoring him, or refusing to acknowledge his existence, go beyond what Scripture commands.

    After all, Jesus said that, when someone is put out of the church, he should be treated as "a pagan or a tax collector" Matthew 18:17. In other words, treat an intractable offender as an unsaved person.

    How are we to treat the unsaved? With love and grace.

    The "pagans and tax collectors" need to be evangelized. We are to love even our enemies ( Matthew 5:44).

    The goal of excommunication and any form of shunning is restoration ( Galatians 6:1).

    The purpose of any type of discipline is to prompt repentance and, ultimately, to reunite our fallen brother or sister with the church body. Being officially ostracized from the church, the sinner might be brought to repentance.

    When the man in the Corinthian church later realized that he had sinned against God, he repented and came back to the church for forgiveness and reinstatement. Fellowship with the Corinthian believers was restored ( 2 Corinthians 2:6-11).

    Isn't it hateful to ignore or shun other believers?

    See part 4.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    AVOID, REBUKE, AND CALL OUT.

    To avoid them, you have to know who they are. You can't avoid somebody if you don't know who they are. This idea of identifying and avoiding shows up in

    1 Corinthians 5:11;

    2 Thessalonians 3:6,

    2 Thessalonians 3:14;

    2 Timothy 3:5;

    2 John 1:10.

    In other words, Christians, and shepherds in particular, should be discerning and alert to behavior and teaching that dishonors Christ and destroys people - and not treat it in a casual or harmless way.

    And then in 1 Timothy 5:19-20, Paul went beyond just "avoid them" to "rebuke them publicly." So, speaking of elders who persist in error, he said, "Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin" - and that can be sin of false doctrine or sin of evil behavior, anyone who does not accept correction - "rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.."

    And then Paul went on and actually named destructive false teachers:

    "Demas, in love with this present world, has deserted me" 2 Timothy 4:10.

    You are aware that all who are in Asia turned away from me, among whom are Phygelus and Hermogenes" 2 Timothy 1:15.

    "By rejecting this [faith and a good conscience], some have made shipwreck of their faith, among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander" 1 Timothy 1:19-20.

    "Their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus" ( 2 Timothy 2:17).

    Paul names at least six false teachers that the church should watch out for.

    So, I infer from Jesus and Paul and Luke and John that false teaching and destructive behavior are present dangers in this fallen world for the church. And all of us - especially shepherds, pastors - should be alert and discerning to identify and, in appropriate ways, expose. In order to protect the flock, we should expose them and minimize the spread of the gangrene (as Paul calls it).

    AVOID, REBUKE, AND CALL OUT.

    God bless
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    DEATH TO SELF: A THOROUGH ANALYSIS

    Your will above all else, my purpose remains

    The art of losing myself in bringing you praise

    Phillips Craig and Dean from the song From the Inside Out (Fearless Album)

    Proverbs 16:9 shows that man makes plans but the Lord orders his steps. Our best attempts at determining what is right even as Christians can't possibly take into account the bad things that happen and just how the Lord will use those things for our good for those who love God and are called according to His purposes ( Romans 8:28). Time and again the Lord has shown in scripture as well as today that martyrs ultimately serve a greater purpose; it such as Jim Elliot martyred with his friends in the jungle and the efforts of his wife and others afterwards with the resulting fruit of their efforts in converts.

    Dying to self may or may not demand a complete change in trajectory as to our vocation or living situation. God makes it clear that those married to unbelievers are not to depart unless forced by the other person. We are also to work heartily unto the Lord ( Col. 3:23-24) and in fact; if we don't work we don't eat ( 2 Thessalonians 3:10). Luke 10:7 shows how the workman is worthy of his hire at least in terms of ministry but Paul supplemented support through tentmaking as to not be a burden to others. Obviously; as with the woman caught in adultery ( John 8:1-11) there had to be an end to sin therefore a radical change in lifestyle and by default cutting off many social ties. Whether we can be a witness or former associates post conversion are a detriment is based on several factors in individual situations. Clearly any criminal sources of income have to be ended; and we should make restitution whenever possible for those we have offended (see Ephesians 4:28; implied in doing good with what is earned).

    As to our affections being set on things above ( Colossians 3:3-10) it is an ongoing process. As an onion each layer of self is peeled away.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Promises for believers "practical" considerations.

    And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them: ( Deuteronomy 28:13).

    Some things in our Christian walk may seem like worldly wisdom; but when we live in a society that is decaying much like the Roman Empire did we see how God contrasts the rewards of those with a work ethic compared to those who don't. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 states that if we don't work we don't eat; and amazingly enough Lenin who started Communist rule in Russia had the same ethic along with some early labor leaders in this country. The verse I have quoted could certainly apply to those who do NOT subject themselves to "usury" which God's people were told not to do or do to each other (see Nehemiah 5:7-10; Leviticus 25:36). That process; of course leads to bondage for extended payment well beyond that borrowed; and has many people in slavery in the world today.

    When push comes to shove; when we ask God to provide income He will provide what is necessary in His timing if we are physically and mentally up to the work. To save money should of course be for our families and future inheritance as well as to meet our own needs; but also the principle of saving a little at a time is beneficial if we need to help those in our midst; particularly in the Body of Christ.

    There are many other admonitions in scripture for husbands; wives and children to follow; as well as single people and widows.

    If we call ourselves "Christian" and are lacking in any of these disciplines and we find God blessing someone who is not a believer because they are following some of these principles we should not be surprised. God is impartial and blesses those He wishes to bless; curses those likewise according to His will. (see Luke 16:9-13 as to how to use "unrighteous mammon"
  • Tunney on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 2 years ago
    GOD be praised and magnified as we go about HIS work and to do so diligently. We wait for HIS coming; but we work and declare the salvation of the LORD, and pray for strength to "...not be weary in well doing."

    May I faithfully execute the will of my LORD and SAVIOR to go and make disciples. Praying also for the leadership of our country and for the lost and harden hearts to be saved and to have the mind of the LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    GOD to shine HIS face on all who are on this forum; and to bless us gloriously. May our testimony in CHRIST show the peace of the LORD and cause others to thirst for the same.

    GOD bless all the Saints to love HIS word and to trust and obey HIM.

    June 27, 2023
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    (Part 2):

    Jesus Himself teaches this in Matthew 24:13 when He says, "But the one who has endured unto the end, this one will be saved." Endurance is a major characteristic being developed in each believer through the maturation process. It is only through endurance that the gospel is preached, and it is only through the development of endurance that a believer is able to hold steady through the tribulations and hardships of life to reach the end when all believers will reign with Christ. Paul, in encouraging the Thessalonians concerning the patient waiting for the coming of Christ, writes in 2 Thessalonians 3:5, "Now may the Lord guide your hearts into the love of God, and into the endurance of Christ." Enduring circumstances is a fundamental characteristic of the person who is saved.

    Chapter 21 of Luke presents the hardships that will come upon those who belong to Christ in the last days. In our study text, Luke 21:19, Jesus commands His followers to gain their souls through the endurance of these hardships. This statement is parallel to one found in Matthew 24:13, "But the one having endured unto the end shall be saved." Both of these gospel writers present the teaching of Jesus as saying that the one who belongs to Christ will endure unto the end. Patient endurance, according to Jesus, is a characteristic of the one who is saved; it is not the work ethic of the believer.

    Blessings to you in Christ!
  • Jimbob - 3 years ago
    Does Eschatology matter? Many people who believe in the pre-tribulation rapture think its not a Salvation issue. But is that true? You be the judge! In ( 2 Thessalonians 3:4) We are told that the antichrist exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Then in ( 2 Cor 11:13-15) v14 Tells us "And no marvel; for Satan himself is (transformed) into an angel of light. The word (transformed) is #3345; it means to transfigure or disguise. So Satan will be disguised as an angel of light, or as Jesus Christ. (Do you think those who expect Jesus Christ to rapture them (before) the tribulation will be deceived by this disguise? I would say there's a really good chance according to Scripture that they will be deceived) ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a (falling) away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. (This verse tells us to not be deceived by any means, for that day shall not come, (What day?) V1 Tells us what day? "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him". That day shall not come, except there come a (falling) away first. The word (falling) is #646; it means defection from truth, ["apostasy"] forsake, divorce, (writing of) divorcement. The (apostasy) is a writing of divorcement, so it would have to be speaking of True Believers in Jesus Christ who will fall away and receive a writing of divorcement before that day, which is "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him. That divorcement would be for worshipping another god! I've been told by someone on this site that Eschatology doesn't matter. According to Scripture it would seem that it is very, very important. I pray this post gets shown for all to see this truth. So that all who see this can be the judge of whether it matters? TRUTH MATTERS! Blessings.
  • Chananeel on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    YAHWEH is our God and we are his People!!!@
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Trusting God vs trusting self.

    There is something to be said for wisdom that comes from above in guiding our decisions; if anything simply trusting the Word of God on certain things like guidance on money ( Proverbs 10:2 on "ill gotten gains"; Proverbs 20:21 warns of a quickly received inheritance that is spent rapidly and or unwisely reminding us of the story of the son who squandered his inheritance in Luke 15.)

    Similar things can be said for other basic issues in life such as behaviors that enhance or disrupt marriages and other family relations; as well as the general counsel not to trust in themselves. Proverbs 3:5-6 warns us about not leaning on our own understanding.

    The difficulty comes in the seemingly mundane actions that the saved and unsaved perform every day. At least we USED to assume a standard indicative of verses like 2 Thessalonians 3:10 which interestingly enough was apparently repeated by Lenin (an avid atheist) but for some odd reason is missing from the far left today. Go figure. When we look at work; assuming that we are not a total criminal for a living (not to be the case as much today in society); we can certainly see how those who are highly skilled; making a "name for themselves" in the world as well as very rich can be much more likely to be caught up in their own accomplishments and status. What would be considered a disaster for them (i.e. having to do manual labor because of mental decline or their company folding) would be to many a cause of rejoicing who are struggling to survive. Such perspective of individuals inevitably squews (however you spell it) our viewpoint. Our natural affections are self centered as well as many of our personal dislikes. The Spirit must be renewing the inner man daily and those who are saved have access to this sanctification. There is ALWAYS contention between the Spirit and the flesh; it may lie dormant but sin is always present as long as we are in these mortal bodies ( Romans 7:24).
  • Richard H Priday - 3 years ago
    Wisdom part 3

    We see; as in my study in Psalms that David realized that there needed to be a continuing relationship with the Lord. We must understand as Peter learned the hard way that our own fortitude is not to be trusted. He somehow; along with the other disciples put Christ's frequent warnings about the upcoming crucifixion; as well as the prophecy about his own denial of Christ which was to occur the night of the trial before Pilate 3 times in the back of his mind. He knew better; or so he thought as he was always backed up (such as when he began to sink walking on the water). Christ had avoided assassination attempts 9 or 10 times already for the 3 1/2 years he had been with him along with the others. Things were to change real quick. The hour of darkness had come; and Peter had to be broken to later be restored (2nd part of the prophecy). Once the Resurrection occurred; then Christ could hallenge Peter 3 times if he truly loved Him; as he was to be taken where he didn't want to go (in other words a Word about his death). Paul also had a word of knowledge about his trip to Jerusalem where he eventually; perhaps much later than he first thought was led to his own martyrdom. He took it with faith knowing heaven was a much better place (Phillipians 1:21).

    Wisdom also can be seen in something like finances. ( Luke 16:10). The trust of God in us relates to where our heart is now.

    Money itself is neither good or bad (and today truly is worthless; just waiting for the official statement there if you get my drift).

    Truly we must as the coin says trust God as He has allowed us to still prosper somewhat as compared to much of the world. As long as there is some financial system or commodity of value; a long term gain is always best in low risk and slow accumulation of resources rather than high risk deals. Of course we need to have enough wisdom to keep a work ethic to provide for ourselves ( 2 THESSALONIANS 3:10).
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Apologies. The 2 Thessalonians reference should be 2 Thessalonians 3:10.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 1:17. Here's a verse where the emphasis is often placed on whether Paul baptized or not, when thw focus should be on the division amongst believers. Here's the key text. 1 Corinthians 1:11-13..

    ....IS CHRIST DIVIDED? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

    NO! Christ is not divided.

    Notice vs 17.

    For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, LEST THE CROSS OF CHRIST SHOULD BE MADE OF NONE EFFECT.

    There's power in preaching the cross UNITES BELIEVERS and it is not in man's intellect. It's not in joining another's belief system! It's the baptism of the Holyspirit that puts you into the body of Christ where you become children of God. And the Spirit causes you to love your brother. But it divides unbelievers and believers. Vs18. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

    Read on through

    1 Corinthians 1:18-31.

    Also 1 Corinthians 2:1-5.

    I'm at odds with heresies and I respond to those who undermine the truth. But I don't hate them.

    Here's verses I try to keep in mind when it seems to be tares, apostates or contentious brothern present.

    2 Thessalonians 3:14-15.

    2 John 1:10-11.

    Galatians 1:8-10.

    Titus 3:9-11.

    The thing is it's discernment not partiality. You don't know them by their works, You know them by their fruit. And it certainly seems that certain doctrine is sown to the flesh and produces corruption and is at odds with the truth.

    Therefore they're are fruitless.

    We also sometimes walk in the flesh "trying to put on politeness" and say something polite by telling these tares they have something to offer, But scripture says otherwise.

    You can politely rebuke them with scripture. But any carnal establishment or person will say you're contentious.

    1 Peter 3:14-17.

    God bless.
  • Suze - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Alex , I needed to hear that right now .
  • Alex N - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    Brenda remember Mary and Martha....Martha was troubled with much working and serving but Mary only wanted to sit at feet and hear his words....And Martha asked the lord to speak to my sister Mary to come and help me...I SERVE ALONE.

    ......But Jesus answered Martha saying you are troubled with many things but MARY HAS CHOSEN THAT GOOD PART THAT SHALL NOT BE TAKEN AWAY FROM HER....The good part is to sit at his feet and hear his Words of the Kingdom.... Luke 10 :40

    .....Jesus said to labor not for the meat that parishes but for that BREAD that endured unto everlasting life that the SON of man shall give unto you.

    ......Remember God furnished a table in the Wilderness....Take no though for your life what ye shall eat or drink .. Your father knows what you have need of b/f you even ask him...If he feeds the birds he will feed you....Trush in him for your everything.
  • WHY THEY WERE NOT WORKING - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    It seems that there were those in Thessalonica who were refusing to work, assuming that since "Jesus would return at any minute", they didn't need to. Paul dispels the nonsense as laziness and reminds them of their previous policy when he was present. No work, no food.

    God created man on the sixth day with two basic purposes by which he would fulfill his primary purpose to glorify God as a bearer of the Divine Image: working and multiplying. Perhaps multiplying could be left off in the New Testament Age based on Paul's teaching concerning singleness ( 1 Cor 7:7), and based on the fact that there seems to be no reproduction in eternity ( Mt 22:30). But working will be a part of our eternal existence. It is what we were made for, not only in this life but also in the next.

    Each man and woman has been given a deposit of talent, energy, and resources. God will return and demand an account for our usage. Furthermore, he has promised that throughout our lives we are to live by the principle of stewardship and faithfulness, and we will be added increase as we prove capable. To refuse to work is an affront to the Creator and should not be rewarded or tolerated in the church.

    The Gospel, unlike the Old Covenant, is not about rules, per se. It is about the grace of God that transforms a heart into a lover of God and his Kingdom and righteousness. But the apostles did sometimes give "rules" when necessary, and only those which accorded with grace and the Gospel. In this case, the problem of laziness was so prevalent, it had to be addressed as a rule.

    There are certainly instances when a Christian is unable to work, whether because of a depressed economy, or a disability. But it is often the case that what is called inability is really an excuse for unwillingness. At nearly all costs, a human, an image-bearer of God, should make themselves useful and add value to their society.

    Streetpreacher
  • GiGi - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    Brenda, I think this Scripture indeed means that if one is able bodied and can work to earn what is needed to supply of one's own needs, then that person should be expected to work. And if a person will not work, then he/she should not be given sustenance because he/she is able to earn their own living but refuses to do so, thus resorting to handouts, which is stealing from the labors of others, in my opinion.
  • D W L - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. Luke 16:20

    As we know some are born blind, crippled, deaf, some never talk. This don't say its ok to draw a check and complain about conditions. Most anyone can find a way to do good and let our light shine.

    A young man (lived homeless on the streets) who's dad was worth millions, got in contact with his son (a few yrs before he died) offered him his half if he would come home and do right - the young man refused.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    2Thessalonians 3:10-16, Proverbs 13:4, Job 34:11, Psalms 28:4, Psalms 62:12, 1Thessalonians 4:11

    Exodus 20:9,10, Exodus 23:12,

    Even to build the house of GOD takes work, 2Kings 12:11, 2Kings 22:5,9, 1Chronicles 9:33, Nehemiah 4:21,

    Proverbs 26:16, Proverbs 20:4, Proverbs 6:6-11, Proverbs 10:26,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Brenda on 2 Thessalonians 3 - 3 years ago
    2nd Thessalonin Chapter 3:10

    It says he that does not work, does not eat (Paraphrased) Does that mean exactly what it says. ??

    If a man is to lazy to get out and work and take care of his family, he should not eat the food he didn't earn.??

    Explain please
  • Ambassador in bonds Part 1 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jan Rene Ann Maudlin:

    Exodus 4:13

    And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

    1 Corinthians 15:1

    Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    1 Corinthians 15:2

    By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

    1 Corinthians 15:3

    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    1 Corinthians 15:4

    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    Revelation 1:5

    And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

    1 John 1:7

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    Romans 8:6

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    1 John 1:7

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    Romans 8:14

    For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    Romans 8:16

    The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    James 4:7

    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    2 Thessalonians 3:3

    But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

    Romans 8:9

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
  • Ambassador in bonds - In Reply - 3 years ago
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    Exodus 4:13

    And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

    1 Corinthians 15:1

    Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    1 Corinthians 15:2

    By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

    1 Corinthians 15:3

    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    1 Corinthians 15:4

    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    Revelation 1:5

    And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

    1 John 1:7

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    Romans 8:6

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    1 John 1:7

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    Romans 8:14

    For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

    Romans 8:16

    The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    James 4:7

    Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    2 Thessalonians 3:3

    But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.

    Romans 8:9

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    Romans 8:15

    For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
  • Ronnette Part 6 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ezekiel 43:10 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

    Philippians 1:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.

    2 Corinthians 7:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    For if I have boasted any thing to him of you, I am not ashamed; but as we spake all things to you in truth, even so our boasting, which I made before Titus, is found a truth.

    Joel 1:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Be ye ashamed, O ye husbandmen; howl, O ye vinedressers, for the wheat and for the barley; because the harvest of the field is perished.

    Jeremiah 50:12 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

    Psalms 37:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.

    2 Thessalonians 3:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

    1 Peter 3:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
  • Dav47 - 4 years ago
    Mat 22:39 I here so many question and concerns of are we to love our neighbor/enemies: As always search scripture. one who fallows CHRIST and tries to be a good neighbor you love as you love all Christian brothers who fallow the doctrine of CHRIST. The 1st and greatest commandment is to love GOD with all your heart and soul and if you do you would be a good neighbor. Is upon the head of any head of house to protect you family with your life if need be. Would you let a neighbor walk in your home and abuse 1 of your family? I hope you said no.

    Paul wrote: Rom 12:18 Many look over "If it is possible" sometimes it just is not possible to get along and you don't ever let someone run over you. If you have a neighbor that does not love GOD and commits egregious acts against you; he cannot be of GOD but of Satan, 2 John 1:7. Do you love Satan? I hope you said no. Anyone that does not fallow the doctrine of CHRIST we are to not so much as wish them a good day 2 John 1:10. We love our enemies only after they have turned from their sins against you and accept doctrine of CHRIST, 2 John 1:9, not until. CHRIST tells us Math. 10:14 if they do not accept doctrine to turn from them, wiping even their dirt off. If they sin against you and repent and ask for forgiveness then you forgive but if they don't then have nothing to do with them until they do.

    Leviticus 19:15-:18 GOD tells us what being a good neighbor is. If he is self-professed Christian (brother) and he breaks these rules then scripture tells us to set him aside until he repents and ask for forgiveness. If he doesn't then vengeance is the Lords. You will be blessed while he has to watch; perhaps he eventually comes to senses an wants the good life you have. But if you are unlucky to get an evil neighbor you best be on guard, Christians are not 2nd class citizens where we allow to be stepped on.

    2Th 3:14,15 Mathew 18:15-:20 Romans 16:17 2 Thessalonians 3:6-:14 Luke 17:3,4. Corresponding verses.


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