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"Once saved always saved? Can a saved person lose his soul?"

That depends on who saved them. If God saved them they can never be lost, if they saved themselves through their choice/free will, it stands to reason that they can then choose or will themselves to be lost.

Well then Alex, I can see that even you understand that there are "exceptions" to whom God will save. Again I ask, "to whom will Jesus say,I never knew you?" Never equals forever.

Men do not simply lose their carnal mind, as you suggest, but their souls as well, and for eternity.



You fit the description given in 2Peter 2, false teacher, which description God has given his people, for a time such as this.

1 Kings 4:26-How can this verse say Solomon had 40,000 stalls when 2 Chronicles 9:25 says he had only 4,000 stalls?

Problem: In recording the prosperity of Solomon, this passage states that he had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots. However, 1 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had only 4,000 stalls for horses. Which one is right?

Solution: This is undoubtedly a copyist error. The ratio of 4,000 horses to 1,400 chariots, as found in the 2 Chronicles passage, is much more reasonable than a ratio of 40,000 to 1,400 found in the 1 Kings text. In the Hebrew language, the visual difference between the two numbers is very slight. The consonants for the number 40 are rbym,? while the consonants for the number 4 are rbh (the vowels were not written in the text). The manuscripts from which the scribe worked may have been smudged or damaged and have given the appearance of being forty thousand rather than four thousand.

Comments by Alex about the H.G. the Child of Promise that God Promised Abraham that wd be as the stars of heaven, that Promise was 2 fold earthy and heavenly But when God swore by himself that was the heavenly part which is Christ that came from heaven and is fulilled when the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity the field being the WORLD where that good seed will be sown i.e us sinners Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man meaning mankinds fruit unto God which is the H.G that Promise of multiplication.The bridegroom is gonna multiply himself in humanity via his seed the word that new covenant ( i will know them all ) an intimacy that is gona result in a heavenly birth of Christ in us that Child of PROMISE , When ya speak of the H.G always mention the Child of PROMISE WHICH IS SPIRIT, THE H.G. That Jesus always refers to as THE PROMISE OF MY FATHER. Wait for the Promise of my father which was baptism of the H.G. the multiplication of Christ in us via that good seed ,being bornagain of an incorruptiible seed ,even by the words of God that Liveth and abideth FOREVER th Promise. When Jesus said my father will send the H.G. in MY NAME implies it comes thru his seed his word thus its Christ who is the father of the H.G. when HE breathe on them that was his seed his breath was his Word which is spirit and life thus Christ is truly the Father of the H.G. Simply b/c the H.G. IS BORN IN US VIA HIS GOOD SEED THE LIVING WORD THE CONTENTS OF THAT BOOK OF LIFE .Thats y Isaiah refers to Christ as everlasting Father, simply b/c he reproduces after the God kind as he is the Father of the H.G. THE GRANSON that is gonna initiate an ISRAEL OF GOD WHICH ARE SPIRITS THAT ARE GONA BE BORN IN US, THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE . Ya gotta realize that Christ is not impotent he has a seed to sow in humanity thus his children that are spirits the H.G. plural that are gonna be as the stars of heaven, Behold me and the CHILDREN th lord has given me,signs, wonders

I'm looking for understanding in verse 19 where it states " the earth was divided in those days ". Does anyone have an explanation?

Thank you for your reply it makes sense.

Read Matthew 16:8-12. Leaven is false doctrine. A little bit of false doctrine can affect the truth.

John 3:16

For God so loved THE WORLD that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Last time I checked, that scripture still stands prominently in the Bible. Jesus was crucified for everyone. He suffered the wrath of God for everyone. Willingly. And He was raised up on the 3rd day. Victorious!

What you mentioned about pre-Genesis is called, "Old Earth Theory". It is a Cult of people that teach something that is not recorded in the Bible. "In Beginning" is when God created TIME. That is when the story began.

The whole ENTIRE BIBLE is about a PERSON. His name is Jesus.

John 1:1-5

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2. The same was in the beginning with God

3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

If God had included a Book and Chapters about pre-Genesis; it would be in the Bible. But they didn't do that. The Book of John clearly explains that. God gave us archaeology, astronomy, and science to find HIM; to SEE HIM.

Romans 1

17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from FAITH TO FAITH: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD, so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE.

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him NOT as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Alex Comments about the Rich man in hell , he is in rank with satan ,Ya gotta realize it was satan that told Jesus all the things and kingdoms of this world are delivered unto me and i give to whosoever will worship me, Hell is for the devil and his angels and mankinds carnal mind ,when God said her seed ( Christ) wd crush satans head thats our old adamic nature. Mans carnal mind is Satans head . Thats y Jesus rebuked peter it was his old carnal mind that was telling jesus he did not need to go to jerusalem to die ,far be it from thee. But that was satan talking, Peter had not been converted just yet Thats y our lord tells us that every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire ,Its simply his baptism of fire. ,HIS JUDGEMENT THAT WE ALL NEED ,Baptism of the H.G. IS THAT FIRE AS OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE that we ALL need . Ya gotta realize that his judgement is his love ,Whom the lord loveth he chasens ( his baptism of fire and the H.G. ) No baptism of fire no Kingdom as Malachi said so well. Who shall abide the day of his coming, who shall stand when our lord appears for he shall be as a REFINERS FIRE AND FULLERS SOAP in that day that he makes us clean that last day the 2 nd advent 2 nd coming . WILD BILL it wd make God a hypocrite if he didnt apply the blood of Christ to everyman as he applied the curse of Adam to everyman no exceptions.Thats y they call Jesus the 2 nd adam what he did at calvary is gona stain ever mans raiments ,NO EXCEPTIONS . If i be lifted up i will DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME .AS GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON, Go ye into ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO EVERY CREATURE NO EXCEPTIONS even the isles of the seas ARE gonna be converted unto me. When Jesus fed the multitudes he fed everybody no exceptions , He maketh his rain to fall on everybody and his sun to shine on everybody no exceptions . His love is beyond our comprehension . How many times must i forgive my brethren in 1 day Jesus replied 7 times 70 OH HIS LOVE.

I just wanted to share the Lord is being very faithful to his word and answering prayers as needed , even on the spot ! Always count him faithful and depend on his word through the faith he has given you ! Amen

Trust in The Lord and lean not upon your own understanding. Vain is the help of men , call upon him in the time of trouble and he will always deliver you ! Amen :)

John chapter one is showing how God works through his son , not that the Son is God but The Son of God Jesus is Gods way of reaching men . Jesus is Gods instrument not Jesus being God and acting as God only can . It's the father working through the Son .

Mark 3:28-29

Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

BUT he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath NEVER FORGIVENESS , but is in DANGER of eternal damnation:

Luke 12:10

And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

2 Timothy 3:2

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

The Work of the Holy Spirit. John 16

"I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him (Father) who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (HOLY SPIRIT) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when HE comes, HE will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in ME; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world (Satan) is judged.

12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he HEARS, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

My comment: if the Holy Spirit is not calling you (in your born again spirit), to return to Jesus, you are in danger of blaspheming.

Mishael

It helps very much to have a king james Study Bible, WITH center of page REFERENCE COLUMNS.

The scripture has tiny alphabet letters that match a reference in the column. Make sure you're in the correct chapter.

The reference will point to other scriptures that add more information to the first scripture; sometimes points to a prophesy in the future, or a completed one in the past.

I just keep a notepad and write them all down and then I read them. You get a more complete picture of what was going on.

I have done this study of procreation after the flood. The Bloodline of Jesus Christ was saved on the Ark. His bloodline was to be preserved until His Incarnation on Earth.

People drowned that were human, but unbelievers (or) refused to listen to Noah's warnings to repent and turn back to God..died.

'Inhabitants' (so called by the Bible) were the evil 1/3 of created angels that followed Lucifer and were bannered from heaven and hurled to the earth. They are the inhabitants that lusted after Adams daughters; married them and started families.

Their flesh bodies were drowned in the flood. Their invisible spirits (read Ephesians 6) survived. Not having bodies, they had to take possession of some type of body (animal, insect, aquatic etc), UNTIL they could possess a human that refused to pay attention to the teachings of God.

People have routinely chosen to worship hills, stars, animals like frogs, "golden calves", cats etc.

You see all those examples reading Moses' early life in Egypt.

Satan was still on this earth and Lord over all those invisible demons. He appoints levels of demons. They are the reason that BAD THINGS happen to good people.

They study us intently to see where our weaknesses are; how can they capture us? The unsaved, not born again people: have nothing to fight with, against a demon that wants to cause harm or death, suicide,

Only Christians can fight them: in Jesus NAME! Ephesians 6.

Mishael

Interesting. Which calendar are you using?

Thank you Diana for coming here to enquire about this important subject: many are not so careful in this matter & suffer much hurt. We won't learn about 'dating' in the Bible because in eastern cultures, particularly in those early days, dating wasn't acceptable nor done; so a girl or boy remained single, chaste, living in the family home & at the appropriate time a partner was found for them. As it is today also, however in the West we would frown upon such a system, but I find there can be a balance.

As a new believer, you will want to please the Lord in your life as well as keep your mind & body devoted to Him. I'm unsure what specific problems you're having now, but I share what I feel should be the pattern for Christian young people. As a young person, your primary focus should be on your studies (if at school), or on developing your career, & just knowing that you may have a lot of maturing to do before properly handling (serious) relationships.

Many young people, particularly girls, get caught in traps that hurt them, or spoils them, & leaving permanent scars. Girls are quite vulnerable & some boys take advantage of this. And this becomes even more evident when mixing with boys that are not Christians, who may have values & an upbringing that don't fall in line with the Bible. But if you meet with a Christian youth group, then you can really get to know each other & make lasting friendships, which may lead to the Lord providing you someone from there. Don't be in a rush to date, even if other girls are doing so - remember you want to hear & be led of God to the right person in His time. And if on a date, go somewhere or do things together that don't put you in a difficult compromising position; i.e. have others around you. And sex is a no-no. Preserve the body the Lord has given you for the young man that He will give you one day. On your wedding night, you both will appreciate your mutual fidelity & singular love for each other. 1 Corinthians 6:18-20.

In this passage of Scripture, we see the children of Israel on their march from the bondage of Egypt towards Canaan, the Promised Land. They complained to Moses & Aaron about the lack of food & water. God then provided them manna & quails daily for them to gather sufficient for each family for each day of the week. Any left over till the following day, would spoil. However, on the sixth day they were to gather enough for two days as the following day would be the Sabbath of Rest when no work could be done.

So this solemn instruction that you read in verse 29, is simply to tell the people to obey the Lord in the gathering of this food prior to the Sabbath, that they should "abide (remain) in his house" or near it & not "go out of his place" (i.e. to leave home looking for food on the Sabbath, as there would be none).

In this long list of prohibitions that are of a sexual nature, this forms part of the Law given to Israel as God's Holy people to be separate from the heathen who would live around them & their ways . Many of these prohibitions were actually performed by the Egyptians & others in the land of Canaan & so the warning by God to not only not imitate them but to live holy & decently as His children.

In your example, it would be incest for a father to have relations with his daughter & even though rape is not suggested in Leviticus chap 18, you get that possibility in Deuteronomy 22:25-29 (in another situation), where if that happens & the betrothed girl shouts for help, then she is absolved of any wrong but the man is put to death. If she is not betrothed, then payment is to made & a marriage take place.

In Leviticus chap 18, when we read "uncover their nakedness", it speaks euphemistically about having sexual relations, rather than observing someone naked. The 'uncovering' implies that the intention is to commit further wrong to the other person. In the case of Noah (Genesis chap 9), when his son Ham saw his father exposed after having a few drinks, & he told this to his brothers, the brothers Shem & Japheth discreetly went with a covering to cover their father. However, Ham & his descendants were cursed because of this sin of Ham. So here we see that an intentional observing is wrong, though whether in a family situation or outside, we can be faced with some degree of nudity & its important how we personally deal with it.

Hello, yes, incest, rape, molesting is all sin. A victim isn't guilty of sin. Observing naked family- if accidental I don't believe that's sin, if intentional and if done with lust that is sin. If people are married I believe lust no longer applies to each other since they are united as one. Just offering my opinion. Read scriptures and when in doubt, pray and ask God.

What are the different types of covenants?

Perhaps I need to read further, because I know that God left no unanswered questions in the Bible. I am currently unable to locate an explanation for the reproduction of humankind after the flood. We know that it's a sin for kinship to fornicate, so with whom did Noah and his family mate, since all of life succumbed to the forty days and forty nights of rainfall? If someone could point toward the book....

Simply let Jesus become your heartbeat, come through Acts 2:38 and never stop.....

everyone who opposes the word of God

This is actually questions pertaining to Leviticus 18. If a father molests his daughter, is it considered incest or, is the father guilty of rape and the daughter innocent of any sin? If you have observed family members naked is this a sin? Should these questions be reserved for a pastor, or at least, one considered an expert on God's word?

The histories of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, the old and the new give us a glimpse to what was done to those who disobey the covenants and commandments of God. Ezekiel 7, represents God's wrath on his disobedient children. Then and also now. Ezekiel 7 is describing the great tribulation upon the earth.

From the very beginning, in the garden of Eden to this our present time. Those who were disobedient to the holy precepts were utterly destroyed, it will be done today also. Ezekiel a Prophet of old foresaw our future and he wrote it as evidence for us. We are being forewarned of what is coming, if only we repent and turn away from doing what is evil, only then, we will obtain mercy from God and the nations will be healed from such severe calamity.

The scriptures tells us that it will be the same as Noah's time and as Sodom and Gomorrah, this was an example for all humanity to learn from. There will be only a handful of righteous people that will be saved, out of all the earth, this is something to seriously meditate profoundly. We have to go back to the first love, God loved us first, therefore the creation. God chastises his children because he loves them. God wants his children to love him back by doing so, we are to obey him.

He is calling us through dreams and visions, mostly now for his second coming. He is coming soon! We are to keep watch and be prepared by repentance, baptism and in keeping all of his commandments. For anything that is impure will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. God is love, for who would give up his only son to die for all humanity?(including the sinners, but only if they repent.) God bless those who obey him.

As a teenager girl can someone give me scripture on sex and dating. Im just a new believer and trying to deal with teen problems. COVIC preventing bible studies with my peers.

Can you translate....? abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Who is the enemy and haters in luke 1:71 ?

Chad, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) understanding and his (spiritual) wisdom.

Romans 8:20 For the creature (creation) was made subject to vanity, not willing, but by reason of him (the creator) who hath subjected the same (creation), in hope.

Eve sinned because she was created subject to vanity.

All flesh sins because we were created subject to vanity; but we were also created in hope.

Romans 8:21 Because the creature (creation) itself shall be delivered (by the creator) from the bondage of corruption into the glorious LIBERTY of the children of God.

Job 15:14 What is man (flesh), that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman (flesh)?

G

I think you're referring the tribe of Levi. If so, Levi was a son of Jacob, who was also called Israel ( Genesis 32:28). You can see the names of Israel's other sons in Exodus 1:1-5. And then we read of Levi's sons in Exodus 6:16-19 and all these were appointed by God to serve Him in the Tabernacle ( Numbers 3:5-10), while the other sons of Israel had other appointments throughout their journeyings towards the Promised Land.

Everything is fine and dandy, I love yours opinions and and your knowledge of the scriptures but there is lot that you all need to know before you be effective to Jesu, did you know that there are millions of years between the first verse of the bible and the second?,what was the name of the woman before the fall?Did you know that the creator became God of the Israelites in MT. Sinai but not of the rest of the world, thats why he became only god of the israelites.there are only two nations in the world the Israelites and the Gentiles and MORE.