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Please answer my entire question What is Psalm 134 saying, concerning the watchmen. How did the watchmen protect it by day and night"? I appreciate your response.

Thank you!

Laurine

It just confuses some people to view 5 different interpretations of PRE-RAPTURE, MID-TRIB RAPTURE, OR AFTER TRIB RAPTURE.

Think about it. When you were a newborn Christian, would you have been able to understand it? Honestly.

I don't think people should worry, or delay being saved because there's yet some time in which to sin.?

My evangelist heart cannot think that way. Guess I'm not a gambler. However, just moments before I was saved, lucky me, was given a vision of hell!!! I don't reccomend that there's any way that Hollywood could make it desirable

Why in thunder and lightning, is timing important??? Jesus could return this October; Or some other month. Predjudice is unlike Jesus.

I've always thought it was because there were numerous Old Testament prophesies that we're to be fulfilled in his 3 years of ministry that led to the Cross.

Judas's betrayal was a prophesy.

There are charts on Google that list the prophesy scriptures, and on the other side, the scriptures of when Jesus fulfilled them. The odds of one person doing that, is beyond the number of stars in our galaxy. Incomprehensible.

The 5th seal saints are the fellowservants of the one hundred forty four thousand sealed saints, also dressed in white robes. The 2 witnesses die in the same manner as their 5th seal fellowservants, and are taken up to heaven ( Revelation 7:9).

( Revelation 6:9-11) And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Trumpets 5,6 & 7 are separate from the others because they are for the last generation.

Most everyone believes we are in the end-times, so can you put your finger on it, identify it in the time line? What events have occurred to reinforce the notion that we have entered the end of days?

The 5th trumpet I identify with the attacks on 9-11-01, and the subsequent rush to battle. This attack officially put the world in tribulation, and stripped us of our freedoms. America and its Babylonian partners spent 20 years killing Muslims in the desert (no grass or green thing), who didn't have the seal of God in their foreheads ( Revelation 9:4).

The US govt was drawing from ( Revelation 7), by highlighting 144,000, which is painfully obvious from 3 accounts.

NYT Sept. 20, 2006 - Pentagon officials have said previously that the current level, about 144,000 troops, was likely to be maintained through the end of the year unless security improved.

The Economic Times Aug 08, 2008 - The United States currently has about 144,000 troops in Iraq and 34,000 in Afghanistan.

The Washington Institute June 15, 2007 - Rather than asking every American to sacrifice just a little in order to affect oil prices, Washington asked a few Americans -- 144,000 to be exact -- to make the ultimate sacrifice.

Continued - President Bush promised the American public much, but he commissioned a mere 144,000 troops to carry the burden of what was meant to be one of the greatest transformative initiatives in the history of U.S. foreign policy.

General Wesley Clark March 2007 - "We're Going to Take out 7 Countries in 5 Years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.." The US mimics the beast's 6th trumpet attack during the 5th trumpet.

-The US, after 3 towers were destroyed (their own property), planned to take 7 countries in 5 years ( Revelation 9:10).

-anti-christ takes 3 horns (his own property), leaving 7 horns from 10 ( Daniel 7:20).

More to come....

Why did Jesus not want people to know what he had done.

The witnesses are the one hundred and forty four thousand sealed from death for 42 months. They are showcased in 7 different chapters of Revelation, in different capacities, allegories and metaphors. Like their appearance in Chapter 12; only the witnesses, (the 12 tribes) are sealed and protected for 42 months.

When the witness are called up to heaven ( Revelation 11:12) and they appear in heaven as the one hundred forty four thousand ( Revelation 7:13-14) after being sealed 42 months prior ( Revelation 7:1-8) They come out of the great tribulation!!!

( Revelation 11:4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. These 2 olive trees and 2 candlesticks are both houses of Israel, 2 nations, before God.

There is no separation between the witnesses and the sealed tribes, they are one in the same.

not at the moment. I am in awe of

What you have shared. Thank you!

I long for the day of the Lord when the haughty get lowered, with a flame on every face. I understand what happens that day, I'm not taken by surprise, unlike those who think it to be a good day. I've had it up to my nostrils with the stench of US and world corruption, murder and mayhem. When God visits the backsliding whole house of Israel, their spoiling and treachery will come to a violent end. Esau, with God on His side, will be brought forth to obliterate Jacob to dust. I bet you've read it many times without understanding that the prophets were talking about us. So the day of the Lord will come, and the abomination of desolation will deliver fire from the south to the north, fulfilling God's Word.

Everything you hold dear about America, Jesus greatly despises. You stand in opposition to those that dwell in heaven. No matter how bold your words are, they fall short of what's written. Mystery Babylon America runs the show with her allies in crime, Europe, otherwise known as Babylon proper. Devices will darken every kingdom. The whole house of Israel used to be the head, but have since transitioned into the tail. When America/Israel bombs Iran's blossoming nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14), know that ( Revelation 6:12) will soon follow. Do you notice that the 6th seal, vs 12, kick starts the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord? It's gonna be the greatest show on earth, bringing baldness and clean teeth. You should let go of her, come out of her, stop defending her.

( Revelation 6:12) And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Count me among them that break out in song when America's plot to rule the world from Jerusalem for a thousand years gets its due comeuppance. Good riddance 'greater Israel project'.

Ty S Spencer, that is all we need actually. 1 Corinthians

Chapter 13.

Then we have forgiveness in heart, instead of hate and a judging .

Hallo all, sometimes we all have questions. i read the werry first beginning as follow. And this thread seams to forget that Adam had a work too do in Eden the garden. He was a guard, and supposed to help God who Self was in the garden from time to time. This is reality.

And Adam and Eva was the first ppl in Jewish history and Jesus family tree. Jesus come for 2021 years ago. Adam and Eve was much far from 2000 years ago. Maybe 6000 years or soo. I gess the numbers of years stand more specific in Jews scripts and note's the exact time.

Please tell me if its wrong? I dont dwells in old testament too much. i have read it and have some good experience for how the God Word lives and work.

Joshua is my favorites and Jonah have a point when he is angry! God bless u all in Christ.

Yes we have, but i have not experienced it, yet. God bless u in Jesus name

Let us rejoice in the characteristics, and attributes of our Lord God Almighty. He is eternal, no beginning, no end. His Praise and glory reaches from the heavens to the ends of the earth to the depths of the oceans. He is greatly to be praised, and magnified. God is declared throughout the world and all of nature. He is known for His loving attributes, and holiness that surround Him. Although all grace and power are in His arms; his touch is never-the-tender, righteous, and comforting. His wisdom is all encompassing, but is easily entreated and soothing to the mind of men, especially to the saved and to the tender, humble, and faithful in spirit. Your loving kindness is a beacon to us to be bold, yet humble before your throne of grace. Thank you Lord for your Greatness and Tender Mercies. Bless us as we learn to look for your coming, and accomplish your will as you tarry. Bless our president and all those in need of your salvation in order to carry out your will and not our own.

Make us to be bold and forth right to declare the glory of God and the Salvation of the Lord before we go into eternity. Help us to keep the whole counsel of God, the Lord Jesus Christ

September 2021.

No. The signs, wonders, miracles, tongues (languages), and prophecies were given to prove to the lost sheep of the house of Israel that Jesus was the prophesied Christ, the Son of God who had come to restore the Kingdom to Israel. After the Jewish people had rejected their Messiah the second time by stoning Stephen ( Acts 7:54-60) and rejecting the kingdom gospel proclaimed by the Apostle Paul and Barnabas ( Acts 13:6), the signs, wonders, miracles, tongues, and prophecies faded away. To my knowledge, the last person raised from the dead was a young man named Eutychus who was raised from the dead by the Apostle Paul ( Acts 20:7-12). Note: Scripture says the coming Antichrist and False Prophet will be given great power by Satan to perform lying signs and wonders. See 2 Thessalonians 2:9; Revelation 13:13-14; 16:14.

Good question.

The strange doctrines we hear from others is nothing more than 'tripe of grandeur' that's been handed down from other reprobates. Still, I'm amused to death.

Your question should be directed at Jesus. He's the Word. Every Disciple was different; but the message was the Samein spirit.

The same applies to all of Jesus's believers; and those in this room every day.

Romans 13: 8-11

Laurine, may CHRIST UN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

God is Spirit.

YOU are the HOUSE OF THE LORD, Christ in the FORM of SPIRIT (Spirit is Life and Truth) lives IN YOU.

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ is a son over his own house; whose house are we .....

You DIED with Christ on the cross. You were RESURRECTED to LIFE and TRUTH with HIM.

The WAGES of SIN is DEATH.

Christ PAID your WAGES; therefore, BELIEVE and you will never see DEATH.

1 Corinthians 15:52 ....DEATH is swallowed up in victory (resurrected with Christ to LIFE and TRUTH).

Spirit gives you life, because there is ONLY one life and that life is (the SPIRIT of) Christ.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) which worketh IN YOU both to will and to do his good pleasure.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (SPIRIT) we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him (the SPIRIT), who worketh all things after the counsel of his (the SPIRIT'S) will.

Do we have the authority to "raise the dead"?

To each their own interpretation. The majority of churches preach neither suffer death but with taken from Earth by God. In fact I don't know one church that does teach as you say - and if I did I wouldn't want to be a part of it.

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SHARING YOUR FAITH WITH OTHERS:

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Your personal testimony of how you came to Believe is powerful. Give your Testimony to Jesus (Lord of the Harvest), and He will bring prople to you that are ready to hear it.

Tom Any action in life that is done in repetition that is sin is in the category of seared conscience because a person does it not feeling a sense of right or wrong when doing it. Eventually it gets to feeling normal and the mind justifies the action not believing its wrong. A clear conscience is produced by endeavoring to line up our actions with scripture I.E. living it. We endeavor to walk with a clear conscience toward God.

Why say "If a man love me ... my Father will love him" ( John 14:23a) if the Father loves everybody? Proverbs 8:17 says, "I love them that love Me." Psalm 5:5 says, "Thou hatest all workers of iniquity" Notice it doesn't say works of iniquity; it says workers. This verse alone is a flat out repudiation of the teaching that, God hates sin but loves the sinner. Scripture says that "God is angry with the wicked every day." ( Psalm 7:11) John 3:36 says, "He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him" Can God "love" the one on whom His "wrath" abides? Finally, Romans 9:13 says, As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Paul asks rhetorically, "What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion." Romans 9:14-15.

As for the verses you cite to suggest that I am violating God's "love" command, those verses are directed to the community of believers in Christ. What applies to believers does not apply to those who believe and promote a false gospel and serve the god of this world. That's why I said before that you are not my brother. Jesus told the Pharisees, "ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep." The tares and the wheat look alike until they produce fruit and are ready for harvest. The tares turn black and their fruit is poison; the wheat turns golden brown and its fruit is life sustaining. You and most people who identify as Christians are tares sown by Satan. Most people can't see the difference between the the wheat and tares because they look so much alike. It's been my experience that the tares hate the truth and openly resist it and they attack those who hold the truth in God's written word. This is how I know that you and your like-minded fellows on this site are tares full of hatred for the truth of Scripture and those who promote the gospel of grace.

2 Corinthians 5:10

John 14:1-3

Luke 10:20

Mark 13: 32-37

Revelation 3: 10

Matthew 24: 1-51

Philippians 3:20-21

Romans 8: 18-19

Acts 1: 7-11

Daniel 12: 1-2

1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18

Revelation 12: 1-17

Revelation 19: 1-21

1 John 1: 3:3

Titus 2:13

Matthew 16:27

Colossians 3:2-4

Luke 21: 34-36

James 4:8

Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25

John 3:16

We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.

On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)

Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.

FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.

[hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,

Mishael

"...do not say that God will "rapture" the church out before the great tribulation, or anytime other than at the end." Ok, Precious friend, Dean, I won't; "Know the order, and realize your place according to the grand scheme." Yes, I won't say it, But, By "studying God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided," I'll let God "Say It":

Part II

(B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

TheSecondComing, According to Prophecy:

(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORDOf lords, Is Coming From Heaven! ( Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! ( Revelation 19:12-15)

(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! ( Revelation 19:12-15)

(4) CHRIST Is Coming ALL THE WAY To the earth"WithAllOf His holy angels," In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations ( Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)

(5a) Angels "gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom" to be cast into the furnace of fire! ( Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43)

(5b) Angels "gather the elect"... ( Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27)

(6)...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! ( Matthew 25:31-46)

(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! ( Matthew 25:34-46)

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:

The Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenlyMystery!:

to be continued in Part III

"God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided," Lets God "Say It":

Part III

The Second 'prophesied' Coming

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:

The PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenly'Mystery!':

(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:

CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From Heaven! ( Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With The Trump of God! ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16)

3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will BringWithHim {those who Were With Him In Heaven},partOf His Own, those who are "asleep In JESUS!" ( 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13)

(4) CHRIST Descends WithOnearchangel, Will resurrect those asleep{in 3)}First, and Then, we "which are alive and remain," {which Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all "incorruptible, And Caught Up" together to meet The LORD in the air {NOT "all the way to the earth!"}, in the "twinkling of an eye!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53)

(5) CHRIST "Gathers His Body" To HIMSELF, to Take them To Heaven {OPPOSITE of earth}... ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1, 2; Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18)

6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body, By The Head Himself!... ( Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12; 1 Corinthians 3:7-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25)

to be continued in:

Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!

Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:

(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... ( Ephesians 5:27)

(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father, In Heaven, Where we Live Forever And Ever! Amen! ( 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2)

Thus, we do "Know the order, and realize our place according to the grand scheme." = Today is GOD's PURE {Gospel Of} GRACE {Light} 'Offered' to all 'INDIVIDUALS,' and WHEN 'it ENDS' With HIS Great GRACE Departure {'Removing' ALL HIS 'ambassadors'}, only THEN Will Fall:

God's {OPPOSITE of GRACE} JUDGMENT In The Time of JACOB's TROUBLE {Tribulation, GREAT tribulation And Wrath in Woe, Dread, Terror, And DARKNESS}, for "ISRAEL And The UNbelieving Nations!"

Thus, question: Precious friend, WHY do you "DESIRE what is NOT our place according to the grand scheme"? ( Amos 5:18)

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LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD, Gift Of ETERNAL Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope ofGlorification When You COME To Finally GATHER us HOME! Amen.

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our "place In The Grand Scheme"?:

( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9) = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today, Current, "But NOW!" Amen?

Precious friends, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, Edified, And "COMFORTED With THESE Words Of God's Truth!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:18)

Dgjot I read all human life came from Adam and Eve and there is a reason the genealogy of Adam and the genealogy of cain are given.

I have love and kindness for Christians, but for deceivers and charlatans or false accusers of the brethren, not so much. I understand that you're offended by the truth because the truth is often offensive to those who are offended by the truth. You wrote, "Esteem others, better than yourself." I'll be happy to comply with that when you explain to me how Jesus had esteemed the Pharisees and Scribes better than Himself when he called them hypocrites, serpents, and children of the Devil. While you're at it, please explain how Paul had esteemed Hymenaeus and Alexander better than himself when he handed them over to Satan so that they may learn not to blaspheme.

The promises to the body of Christ are heavenly, the promises to the bride of Christ, i.e., lost sheep of the house of Israel are earthly. To be a nation of kings and priests is promised is to the Jews, not to the Gentiles. You're right that we walk by faith and not by sight.