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Dgjot, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Try to understand that you ARE NOT separate and apart from God, but ONE, you do not exist apart from God.

NOW:

Philippians 2: 13 For it is God (the spirit of LIFE and TRUTH IN YOU) that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL AND TO DO his good pleasure.

He is the ONLY LIFE and he is working to make you that LIFE ALSO. He want FAIL.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE OF HIM who worketh all things after the council of HIS WILL.

Romans 8:29 For whom he foreknow, he also predestinated to be CONFORMED TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, so that he might be the first borne among many brethren.

Isaiah 14:24 ....Surely as I have thought, so it shall come to pass, an as I have purposed, so shall it stand.

I would like to know who wrote the book of Hebrews. Thanks.

You are Very Welcome, Precious friend Dgjot.

Dear Dgjot,

Fear not! Walk with Jesus Christ, read and believe His Gospel. Follow HIS commandments and he will guide you to everlasting life!

None of us will ever be perfect. We must try to follow in Christs footsteps, and when we fall short, we must pray for forgiveness.

Jesus will be our JUDGE and he tells us in scripture what he will look for in us:

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

We must believe, and be baptized in Water and the Holy Spirit!

Revelation 22:12-14

12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Above, Jesus tells us that we need to follow God's 10 commandments, hopefully in doing so, we will be producing the good works/good fruit as required by Jesus above, in order to enter in though the gates of the city.

God Bless

Hi Earl,

Yes, I agree. Faith is a word that describes what God does. The bible tells us that faith is a fruit of God's Spirit. The faith that the bible speaks of can only be produced by God's Spirit. We cannot produce spiritual faith, only human faith. The word faith literally means persuasion. But there are two types of faith, human faith, and spiritual faith. We either persuade ourselves (human faith), or we submit to the persuasion of God's Spirit persuading us and moving us to do something (Spiritual faith). When we submit to the persuasion of God's Spirit working in our lives, that's the faith God sees and rewards. I like to describe faith as the presence and activity of God's Spirit in a believer's life. When God's Spirit persuades us, that's faith. Have a blessed day!

Brother Jesse, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Are not the BORN AGAIN to never see death?

Matthew 16:28 ....There be some standing here, which shall no taste of death, .....

John 5:24 ....but is passed from death unto life.

John 8:51 ....he shall never see death.

In the twinkling of an eye DEATH is swallowed up in VICTORY

Colossians 1:13 ....And hath TRANSLATED US into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Very interesting comment Grace. I found it very interesting as to point number 1 and the use of the Lazarus story.

I am not a Bible scholar, not even close. I ask for the God Yahweh to lead me to the truth He will provide for me. Yes, I do not believe all scripture has the same meaning for all believers; it is tailored to the individual.

With that stated, I question the verses used in your first point in that there is no scriptural basis for the story of Lazarus being more than a parable to emphasize the difference in eternity between the believer, even though I find no evidence Lazarus was described as even a devout Jew. But the rich man most likely was due to being rich.

Lazarus being on the bosom of Abraham was a ploy to magnify the revered position of the devout Jew - descended from Abraham. The rich man being separated from Abraham would be the ultimate blow to a Jew - loss of contact with the father of the Jews.

The story of Lazarus has nothing to do with the immediate passing of the spirit to either heaven or paradise. It is simply an allegory to emphasize the correct use of wealth to care for the unfortunate.

This parable has a twofold message to the audience. First, the social position of a person has no relevance to God's view of the individual. Second, neglect of the needs of a fellow human will not go unnoticed by God in His judgment of an individual.

Reread the complete chapter of Luke 16. This is imperative to understand the context and purpose of the story of Lazarus. Christ was speaking of the misuse of resources given to one individual by God in respect to caring for the needs of the unfortunate.

Your use of Revelation 6:9-11 is also interesting in that just when on the judgment timetable did it occur.

I would be most interested in your interpretation of Ephesians 4:9.

I enjoyed your comments, however, I fail to see where the first resting place of the spirit is clarified.

Dear Brother Jason,

Pray to God in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ. Talk to him, HE will listen, and HE will comfort You. Ask him to guide you, and put your life in His hands.

Isaiah 41:13

"For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee."

I will also pray for you.

God Bless.

Maybe you should try an apostolic church. I'm sure you might fit in there.

Dear Landon,

Thanks for sharing the scripture confirming water baptism. Yes, I also believe we must be Born of Water and Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. So baptism with water and receiving the Holy Spirit will be the requirement - per Jesus Christ! This scripture is so powerful, Jesus stating "EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND SPIRIT"

John 3:5

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

To argue differently, is to argue directly with Jesus.

God Bless.

Hello Joyjay. No human being, however wicked they may be, can be considered a demon. Demons are spirit beings sent out by Satan, the prince of devils. Those demons can certainly afflict or indwell a person who gives themselves over to them through various means, but every person remains fully human & fully in need to be saved through Jesus Christ.

You haven't shared about your forefathers or how you may be considering them as demons, so I can't give anymore specifics. Your forefathers will always be related to you no matter how they have lived their lives. You are responsible for your own life & if you have family members, also to care for them, nurture them & lead them to live carefully & responsibly. I don't know your culture, but I would think that a person in any culture will never deny his heritage & his responsibilities to his fellow-man.

As far as loving your forefathers, that depends on a person's inclination; some pay no heed to any one other than those about them - others, will go to great lengths to prepare (endless) genealogies & retrieve historical records/photos, so as to keep their memories alive. So be free to give love, respect or consideration to your forefathers, if you deem them worthy, but if their lives have been filled with evil, then we can learn to stay far away from their errors, & turn to the One Who promises us forgiveness of our sins, a new abundant life on Earth, & a sure hope of an eternity with Him. And of course, His Name is Jesus Christ, Who came as the Saviour for all men, no matter their religion, country of birth, or their deeds. Jesus gave His Life for you & me, so that we wouldn't have to suffer eternity without God & in everlasting punishment. John 3:16-19; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:23; Romans 10:9, all giving us assurance that when we come to God through His Son, He will forgive & He will accept. Your forefathers may have not heard this Good News - today no one has any excuse. May you receive God's comfort.

Awesome word!

Gambling is a sin. Because one most have no self control you can lose all your money in attempt to win. Left broke, debt comes and no longer have money to pay bills or buy your daily bread. Its an addiction, same as an alcoholic who has no self control. One needs to be content to what is given oor work hard to make more with Gods blessing, use your working money to take care of self and family. Don't be lovers of money or worldly things for they are temporary. Stay connected to God learn of his love for you by reading, praying and loving him for all his done for his children, you.

Chris Correction to comment rebirth begins on earth the rest is as stated.

Dear friend in Christ please don't be afraid . What ever is going on with you at this time you can be sure God sees you and hears you and knows your turmoil . Try to stay calm and don't make any life changing decisions if you are feeling fragile . Be still and wait for God . Put your trust in Him and He will show you the way .pray to Him with an honest and open heart , doing this is an acknowledgement of Him and His power to heal you . If you have a Christian friend , or even just a person who you know to be a kind soul , talk to them also . Many fears completely loose their power over you if you speak them out loud . Don't give up on God and His mercy , it is new every day . He knows you and cares for you no matter what you think of yourself He loves you and nothing you can do can negate His love for you . Talk to Him , trust Him and wait for the answer . It will come .

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Thank you brother ChrisE. I'm generally with the same view as what you've expressed here, & my thanks for sharing it & the Scriptures. My point to the other brethren, was about the state & location of the spirit of one who has deceased. I too believe that the spirit returns to the Lord Who gave it, but many, I would suspect, have the view that the spirit of man lingers somewhere, though not knowing where. But this view presents other problems with one's immediate accountability with the Creator & Giver of life. Thank you again.

Thank you again brother Carleton for those deep & engaging thoughts. Indeed, our whole attitude & presentation to all must be as seen in our Master. He knew all men & yet withheld Himself from using their devices of carnal attack & judgement. He always did the Will of His Father ( John 6:38), always replicating the Father's Words & Acts in His Life & Ministry ( John 5:19).

His powerful, yet succinct Words to us are, "to be wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" ( Matthew 10:16), for indeed, we as Christ's Church are in the "midst of wolves", & we are not to be ignorant of the evil one's devices in urging those wolves on & upon us. Yet, when under attack, & they come from a myriad of sources, our response needs to be one as was written of our High Priest: "One who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens" ( Hebrews 7:26). As even the apostle urged us, to "be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world" ( Philippians 2:15).

Our light can only truly shine when Christ's Light shines through us. If there's only a flicker, the world will never be moved, they remain in darkness & our flicker of light might even be extinguished. As the world sees us in full submission desiring only that the Lord's Name be lifted up, they might also see how Jesus submitted to His Father's Will going the full distance to the Cross for them. That joy & peace that was the Lord's continual possession even to enduring the Cross, must be our portion as well, even in manifold trials & exercises of faith - and thus we can always follow peace with all men. Every blessing brother.

what were the high places of worship that azariah did not destroy

Thanks for your response, Bill. You wrote: "Paul does not say the body will be raised; The sleeping spirit is raised from its rest, or sleep." Yet, in 1 Thessalonians 4:14 we read: "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." Of course, there can be discussion on why God's Name is mentioned here, but the verse says that those who have slept (in Jesus), God will bring with Him. And in the following verses, "the dead will rise first". Who then would be those whom God brings & the dead rising, if the dead doesn't represent bodies of people?

My mention of Lazarus is the one spoken of in John chapter 11, the brother of Mary & Martha. But since you mentioned Lazarus of Luke 16:19-31, believing this account to only be a parable, then in my understanding, Jesus never used people's names in His parables. If this was a parable, the Pharisees & others listening to Him, could well ask Jesus, who Lazarus was. Jesus of course, would have to say, 'I just made up this fictious name', thereby giving them further reason to continue their derision of Him. It was always, 'a certain man, or a sower who went out', as unnamed people in parables. Then of course, Paul's description of sleep, in my understanding, is simply the body lifeless & decaying, awaiting the resurrection when the spirit is joined to the resurrected body, as in Matthew 27:52,53, when bodies of the saints were resurrected at Jesus' crucifixion. Those spirits must have returned, the bodies recomposed, & another spectacle of proof of the One Whom they crucified. So, it may be quite possible, that a similar miracle will take place at the Lord's Coming, of spirits returning to their newly reconstituted bodies.

Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts brother.

Enoch (Hebrew: meaning "initiated") is a name in the Hebrew Bible used by two separate figures who lived during the generation of Adam.

The first Enoch was the son of Cain.

He is described as a son of Cain, and father of Irad. After Cain arrived in the Land of Nod, to which he was evicted by the Lord as his punishment for murdering his brother Abel. His wife became pregnant and bore Cain's first child, whom he named Enoch.

The SECOND Enoch was a descendant of SETH, the third son of Adam, and great-grandfather of NOAH ( Genesis 5:22-29). Seth is the bloodline of Jesus Christ ancestors and Must Not be Confused with Cains ancestor.

Oops :D. Forgot to add this

I posted this yesterday. Previously I noticed while looking at Genealogy charts on Google: that there were 2 persons, each named Enoch.

However one of them was ancestor of Cain. The one who killed Abel.

Thank you Rick. I generally agree with what you've written, except for the reference to "born again". "when a believer falls asleep His spirit goes back to God who gave it, Hence born again of Gods spirit." My understanding is that re-birth must begin on Earth, i.e. after repentance & faith in Jesus, God's Spirit enters the forgiven sinner, baptizes him into Christ & cohabits with man's spirit, renewing & energizing him. If re-birth didn't take place now, then we will remain in continual fear & state of anguish for sins, not having the Holy Spirit's Work of confirming our acceptability & new relationship with God ( 2 Corinthians 5:17; 1 Corinthians 3:16; & many more) - all showing that the Spirit's residence is evidence of a re-birth, and this happens now & not when our spirits return to God. That is my understanding - unless I have misunderstood you.

Jesus's feet will not touch earth when the "Caught Up into The Clouds occurs. (also called the Rapture)

When he returns to earth, his feet will touch down on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. There will be an earthquake.

Word search: Mount of Olives

As Followers of Jesus, we have to walk in forgiveness__because we are forgiven.

Matthew Chapter 6

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14 For if you forgive men their (sins against you) trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15 But if you forgive NOT men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive YOUR trespasses.

Do being a follower means that our old ways of being angry, railing on someone who treats you wrong some way, becomes an OPPORTUNITY to be like Jesus and forgive them. I just say, "I forgive you" real quickly. Nine times out of ten, the other person will say they are sorry too.

I view this as a good habit that doesn't cost me.

Hi Glen. I didn't believe you to be a Roman Catholic - I answered your question in the way I thought you meant it, about the Roman Catholic Church having problems with 2 Maccabees.

However, to your other question: it is true that the 1611 KJV did have the Apocrypha in them, but it should be noted that it was placed between the Testaments & for historical reasons only, and usually with a note to speak of their non-inspired writing, that they should not be included into the Canon of Scripture & with several reasons (7, I believe) given for their spurious inspiration/authorship.

Unlike the RC Bibles & others which included the Apocrypha within testamental books. For reasons I can't fully verify, I understand that because of the sheer weight of Bibles in those days (up to 40 lbs), the Apocrypha was omitted, and in respect of the Bible printers, this was a boon, since their job became easier & they could sell the Apocrypha as a separate volume, thereby making a further profit. However, you may want to check out this aspect. Trust this better answers your question, Glen.

There is a difference between the SUN and the Light. Genesis 1:3, 1:14-17. Revelation 21:23, Revelation 12:1-2. MINISTRY OF THE TWO ELIJAS

Many have stumbled over the Ministry of John the Baptist and Malachi 4:5-6. For some reasons:

They do not know their ministries;

John the Baptist Ministry:

1:17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

Malachi 4:5-6 Ministry:

Malachi 4:6And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Similarities in these ministries

John The Baptist Foreran the First Coming of Jesus Christ.

Malachi 3:1Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. Matthew 11:9-10

Malachi 4:5-6 Foreruns the Second coming of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 17: 11And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. Revelation 10:7

Differences

John the Baptist was he voice of one crying in the wilderness.

Mark 1:3

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. John 10:41

Malachi 4:4-6

His ministry was to carry the Gift of Divine healing and Revealing the mysteries hid in the bible before the second coming.

Malachi 4:2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. JOEL 2:31, MALACHI 4:6, REV 10:7

NOW IF ANYBODY COMES TO TELL US ABOUT REPETANCE WE KNOW THAT, THAT WAS THE MINISTRY OF JOHN THE BAPIST.IF SOMEONE COMES AND CLAIM TO BE ELIJAH OF MALACHI 4:5-6 WITHOUT THE MINISTRY OF DIVINE HEALING BUT SUBSTITUTES

When will Jesus come to Jerusalem?

Hello Rick,

I'll have to take another look at that chapter. I know you mention context, but I still cannot see how Enoch would be included with those in chapter 13, especially when chapter 5 says that God transferred him and that he would not see death. What are your thoughts on the phrase "he was not found." To me, if he died a normal physical death, they would have known where his body was. It is my belief that both Enoch and Elijah never experienced physical death and that God took both of them prior to experiencing death. You are the first believer that I've talked to that says Enoch died a normal physical death. What are your thoughts on Elijah? Did Hod take him before he experienced death?