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The Israel firsters claim that Israel will live forever. They are on YT spilling their nonsense. These people don't read the Bible, and even if they did, they would make up their own minds to spin the results in Israel's favor. Tell them what will happen, that Israel will be invaded, and they don't believe God would do that to them. Won't the proud be surprised when fitted with color and chain.

I was wondering, sister!

First of all it is extremely important to see how 1 Peter 3:19-20 fits with the overall themes of the first 3 chapters of 1 Peter and especially the theme Peter is giving instructions about just prior to giving his audience this revelatory information to understand how this information was intended to benefit them. We should be cautious in drawing interpretations from these two verses that make them sources of pure speculation in support of doctrines that have nothing to do with Peter's reason for including them with the instruction and exhortation he is giving his audience.

1 Pet 1:6-7 makes it clear these Christians are in a season of being tempted and tried by persecution. The first three chapters give numerous encouragements and exhortations to perseverance in both character and faith in Christ. They connect the rejection these believers were facing with the rejection Christ endured and their need to show the same purity of character and patience Christ showed in the face of false accusations. They are warned against practicing the deeds they are being accused of or that their accusers do, since suffering for that is not blessed but rather is deserved, but suffering as Christ did is blessed and will be vindicated.

The vindication of the sufferings of Christ and those who believe in Him and the long-suffering patience of God in withholding His judgement on the deserving disobedient until the appointed time are all in view in 1 Pet 3:19-20. All of it is like the time of Noah, when wicked men brought on God's judgement, but Noah had to maintain both His character and his faith in preparing the Arc while they mocked and spoke evil of Him, prompted by demonic activity, until Noah's salvation was ready and God sent the flood.

The spirits imprisoned as a result of the flood are either the disobedient men or demons of Noah's time. I'm fine either way. Christ, quickened by the Spirit, preached to them (God's full vindication) after He died and before He rose.

Yes, Gog and Magog are people who migrated northward to the far north of Israel, which would be Russia. Meshech and Tubal are people who settled in the area north of the Black Sea, today's Ukraine, southern Russia and Georgia. Gog is identified as the son of Rosh, which is now Russia. These peoples are descended from Japheth (Noah's son)

Ezekiel 38 and 39 speak about these peoples who come against Israel in war.

David's life was quite complex . He sinned more than once and even though God forgave him , there were still consequences that had to b endured . Because David failed to apply the law correctly when his son Amnon raped his daughter Tamar , this gave occasion for all of Israel including Absalom who was Tamar's brother , to speak against David . And my guess is that they did , Absalom was handsome and he had a just cause in the case of his sister . The seeds were sown hear . It's all very much typical human behaviour . If u have laws then they should b for everyone and should always b applied perfectly . There was no place for forgiveness in the law of Moses . David , as a type of Christ , points to the new covenant of forgiveness in Christ . David is forgiven for his sin regarding Bathsheba and her husband , David forgives his son Amnon but fails to take into account that Absalom and many others probably wanted the law to be applied properly . This is what happens when we try to mix the two covenants , it gets complicated . If we r for the law then we must b for all the law and stick to them all perfectly . We can't pick and choose which laws we r happy with and which we feel like ignoring , or we end up in the same kind of mess that David did . Christ is our righteousness . If righteousness could b achieved under the law then we wouldn't have any need for Christ . He would have died a pointless death .

Matthew 18:2-14, Mark 9:36-37, Mark 10:13-15,

KJV definition of child: Exodus 21:22, starts in womb, 1Kings 3:7-10, Matthew 2:1, Psalms 131:2, Ecclesiastes 4:13, Hosea 11:1,

A child has to trust for every provision

Hopefully these are helpful

Reply - what does the Bible mean in 1947 this will be the generation that will see second coming ? Thank you very much

Is Russia mentioned in any way in the Bible by means of another name, such as Gog?

Isaiah 53, Luke 1, Luke 2, Luke 3, whole chapters

Zechariah 13:6,

My question back, is why does she feel this way? anti-Semitic thought sometimes were thought because of the crucifixion. Sometimes for love towards Jesus & sad for His suffering, If someone doesn't read deeper to see Jesus came to his own, wounded by his own. For all mankind & HE forgave even them. John 4:9, Luke 23:34, Luke 6:37, Romans 1:16,

Other good scriptures were given by other answers.

It may be a good start to find out why it's important to her to believe that. Finding the root, sometimes helps better answer questions.

Hopefully these are helpful

Kay,

2John 1:5-11, James 4:4-5, I'm reminded of 2Kings 20:12-18, Isaiah 39:1-7, Micah 7:5, Proverbs 19:4,= Job 19:14, Proverbs 14:20, Psalms 38:11,

Proverbs 19:7, Luke 21:16, Proverbs 19:6, Proverbs 18:24, Proverbs 27:6,

Even Jesus friends : Mark 3:21, Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 41:9, Luke 7:34, Matthew 11:19, Matthew 26:48-50

John 15:14-26, Job 42:10, -after = ( Job 32:3 ), Mark 5:19, Luke 14:12-14,

Hopefully these are helpful for wisdom in your love & wisdom towards GOD, your friends & close friends

Hi, Ruth,

I just read that verse. John 3:27,

Baptism & HOLY Spirit is many's belief.

Water & Spirit also could just simply mean natural birth & spiritual. John 3:5-6,

John 3, if you read in context John 3:3, John 3:15-21,

Hopefully these are helpful

That's grotesque

Let's not twist Truth with lies.

Read the Bible for yourself so you'll know truth. John 17:17, Zechariah 8:16, John 8:32,

Hi Bonnie,

The words Jew and Gentile; The word Gentile used from Hebrew goy and nokhri and Greek thn. Gentile is derived from the Latin word gentilis, meaning belonging to a clan, a family, a nation, and people, and even those not Roman citizens. In both Hebrew and Greek, there is no word even approaching the way Gentile is used today. In the bible, the same Hebrew word was translated nations, heathen, Gentiles, and people, and the Greek word was translated the same even when it is about the Israelites.

The term Jew did not even appear until the southern kingdom of Judah was taken captive to Babylon. Jew is an abbreviated slang term for Judahite, a resident of the southern kingdom of Judah. I have heard people refer to Abraham as a Jew and the Israelites in Egypt before the exodus as Jews. All who are of the Jewish religion are not jews as is thought today.

We see in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 Jesus does not care for those who call themselves Jews when they are not. Jesus came from the tribe of Judah Isaiah 11:1-10 2 Timothy.2:8 Revelation 5:5. Jesus is our high priest not from the tribe of Levi but of the tribe of Judah, Hebrews 7:11-15. From the tribe of Judah, our Lord's new high priesthood signals a change from the Old to the New Covenant, a new order.

Some argue that under Mosaic law, tribal affiliation is through the birth father only. There is one case we can see in Numbers 27:4-8 if Mary had no brothers her father's inheritance would pass to her. Jesus through her will be counted of the tribe of Judah. If we cannot accept Jesus being from the tribe of Judah, we cannot accept Him as our savior who gave His life for us.

There is more but may this help.

God bless,

RLW

Yes , I did know and I can't wait for it to come ! Big smiley faces .

Hello Ruth, Nice to meet you here.

This verse has been the topic of many discussions on this site. My suggestion is for you to google the question and read from some reputable Christian sites say about this. These articles usually site 3 or 4 meanings for this verse. If you truly want to understand this verse about being born anew, I think it is important to discover what has been taught since the beginning of the church age up to now.

In my research, the early church fathers of the first few centuries interpreted this passage as referring to water baptism being the means of being born of water and the spirit. This view speaks of being cleansed from sin through repentance and of our sins being "washed" away (in the spiritual sense) by the waters of baptism, which indicates a total cleansing from sin and by being a new creation by the work of the Holy Spirit who regenerates us. The early church fathers viewed that being born anew by water and the spirit as concurring simultaneously in water baptism. This was the view of the church from the 1st century up to the times after the Reformation in the 1500's when various sects began to promulgate the other views you will find in your research and the in the replies to you question on this site.

I do not wish to promote my view on this here, so I won't. But I did want to the historical viewpoint from the church age and refer you to research further on this on various Christian sites. these sites give good explanations citing Scripture, which I think is always good.

Did you know know that the kingdom is actually a government. God's gov kingdom is to very soon do away with human gov.

Dan 2:44

The Lamb and the 144,000

14:1 they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth.

Revelation 5:9 And they sing a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God,e and they are to rule as kings over the earth.

Leviticus chapter 24 seems to have a narrative in the first 9 verses on the perpetuity of the fire of God with a sudden interruption based on the Israelite woman's son and his blasphemy toward God. Whether there was an intended break in the scroll; or not this is how it appears in KJV.

One could say that the eternal consequences for the law; in regard to the "unforgiveable sin" which is tied in with blasphemy in the N.T. of the Holy Spirit is the opposite of the perpetual light of God's people; bringing the lost to eternal punishment. There are a few other reminders here of "an eye for an eye; tooth for tooth" in verse 20; etc. God has laws of a death penalty which don't have to be looked at as mutually exclusive to Grace. It is unlikely from the event that this man asked for the God of Israel to forgive his sins with his soul about to head to eternity; although technically it is only the reaction to the Holy Spirit; not toward God or Christ that is unforgiveable again, according to Christ. We have to consider a nation or society under the governing powers that the Lord has asked us to be submissive to; whenever a choice doesn't have to be made to disobey God in order to be obedient to those in authority. When we look to the value of a human life; and the importance of a person's property or possessions a full restitution still holds as I see it. Those who stole; for instance are said to need to be providers; as the N.T. states.

It should be noted that blasphemy was to include both the native born (as in this case) AND the stranger as to the punishment of death. (v. 16). As far as being put outside the camp; that is where Christ became a curse for us. We realize that we have all in a sense cursed God and been enemies of God before salvation.

Hello Edwin,

In greek mythology, Zeus took his unborn child out of the womb of his wife and stitched him i to his body until he was born. The baby's name was Dionysis

How many covenants are in Genesis 12-50?

I'd like to know more about verse 19 and 20 quite sure what they mean

Who was the king that stitched the unborn baby in his leg until it was it was time for it to born

Moses did not give credit to Jehovah for the water that came from the rock when Moses struck it. In his anger, he said something like what do I have to do. Took credit.

Moses will be put back on earth in the near future when the resurrection occur.

Place your faith in the only true God Jehovah, and he will make your paths straight Psalms 83:18

I have a question regarding being born of the water and spirit. What exactly does this mean?

Hi Rose.

You said

"God said he chose only 144,000 to reigne in heaven as kings and priest over the earth."

Can you please share that scripture,

Thanks in advance.

God Bless.

What does it mean to be announced? Is this the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? In old testament( and of course Yeshua) those that Yahweh chose as kings were annointed.

Bonnie Jesus cd not be Jewish...The lamb of God cd NOT have any spot or stain of ADAM...Thats y he told the Jews you are from beneath but i am FROM ABOVE,..You are of this world but i am not of this world... Acts 20 : 28....Feed the Church of God that he has purched with his OWN BLOOD...During gestation a womans plasenta keeps the fetus's blood and the woman blood separated'...There are nutrients that are passed to the fetus and visa versa..But neva the BLOOD...Jesus was the LIVING Word made flesh and blood...Thats y David said ITS THE LORD DOINGS AND IS PRECIOUS IN OUR EYES...It was not of any man thus it had to be a virgin birth...God didn't want any man to have a part in this...Had Jesus been Jewish he wd have to had been bornagain of an incorrupptible seed just like us humans...But the truth is he was that incorruptible seed that God wants to be planted in humanity...Jesus was simply the LIVING WORD ( GOD ) made flesh and blood...Now Mary was Jewish but she was just a vessel...And he was made of a woman ( MARY ) She carried him 9 mos....But he was not Jewish...How cd he be JEWISH WITHOUT A JEWISH FATHER....He was an absolute Son...Thats y the Father instructs all the Angels to WORSHIP HIM.

In John Ch 10 V 9 , where Christ refers to himself as the door , Exodus Ch 12 V 1-7 . The Israelites had to have the lamb in their house with them for three days , which are the three years of Christ's ministry . Christ is the door , sprinkled with the blood of his own sacrifice , as the Israelites sprinkled their doors with the blood of the lamb . We are in him , he is the door we entered through when we were baptized into him . We are hidden from the wrath of God which will come upon the world . Safe , in Christ , we don't even need to fear death , as we were buried with him in baptism do shall we live with him in his Father's Kingdom on earth when he resurrects us , if we die before he returns .

I'm sorry to tell u this but most of those 600 and something laws that u talk about were not given to Moses until after the ten commandments were , so the ten commandments did not replace them .