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a) And he that sat was to look upon
...b) like a jasper
......c) and a sardine stone:
...a) and there was a rainbow round about the throne,
b) in sight like unto an emerald.
a) And he that sat was to look upon
...b) like a jasper
......c) and a sardine stone:
...b) in sight like unto an emerald.
a) and there was a rainbow round about the throne,
Notice that "a, b" has been corrected in the above verse. And now the verse reads a a, b b, c. Whereas before it read a b, b a, c.
In this verse, John is looking at the throne of God. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are represented as the jasper, sardine, and emerald. The center of the Godhead is Christ.
Jasper (The Father)
...Sardine (Christ)
Emerald (Holy Ghost)
With the verse placed into standard form, the Godhead represented by the stones is easy to see. The Book of Revelation is like this. In order to read the book at the higher levels of interpretation, you must read the chiasmi. It takes years of work to do this, and I can share my understanding of the book with you.
It would be nice if we had a larger area to work rather than the limited space in these postings. Another example of an X chiasmus is Rev. 19:19. This verse is a reverse chiasmus because the kings of the earth are the Savior's army.
And I saw the beast,
...and the kings of the earth,
......and their armies, gathered together to make war
...against him that sat on the horse,
and against his army.
a) And I saw the beast,
...b) and the kings of the earth,
......c) and their armies, gathered together to make war
...a) against him that sat on the horse,
b) and against his army.
a) And I saw the beast,
...b) and the kings of the earth,
......c) and their armies, gathered together to make war
... b) and against his army.
a) against him that sat on the horse,
The verse reads a a, b b, c after it is changed from an X chiasmus into standard form.
Rev. 1:1-7
..... Rev. 1:8, The Chapter One chiasmus center
Rev. 1:9-20
There are different types of chiasmi. The one above is what I consider abbreviated. Because the verses are not stated individually. Also, chiasmi change depending upon what the researcher is looking for. That is, a chiasmius is simply a tool for studying scripture. At least that is how I use chiasmi.
Sometimes I use a chiasmus like reading a book. The progression goes from 1, 2, 3, etc. or a, b, c, etc. I use a, b, c, for the most part, but I also use 1, 2, 3. There is not really a specific way for this as long as you keep the rules straight. The first rule is that the chiasmus reads from left to right to the center, and then from right to left to the end.
a, begin
...b
c, end
1, begin
...2
3, end
Often, I look at the parallels from top to bottom.
a, top
...b
c, bottom
When I look at the parallels, I change the numbering to reflect that I am reading parallels; the top and bottom. That is, I am not reading the chiasmus as a linear read, but top to bottom.
a, top
...b
a, bottom
There is a third type of chiasmus that I use but not that often, which is a spiral. Often, the spiral becomes obvious. So it is not so much a tool but something that can be found.
1
...3
2
So that is the three types of chiasmi that I use and how I use them.
At times, I find a "reverse" in the chiasmus. That is, the chiasmus is out of order. I call reverses "X" chiasmi because the reverse shows up as an "X". Here is an example:
Rev. 4:3
a) And he that sat was to look upon
...b) like a jasper
......c) and a sardine stone:
...a) and there was a rainbow round about the throne,
b) in sight like unto an emerald.
This is an X chiasmus. Can you see the X?
I like that idea.
As many are aware there are plans to eliminate private property and expectations that people will be happy to own nothing in the near future. However as the seal judgments indicate things won't go too well for those elitists either who think they can fare better than the rest of the world once their plans for economic collapse transpire. That is because God Himself will add to the famine; plague and wars and every sector of society will realize what's going on after the martyrs of the fifth seal have begun to die. Somehow heaven will open up with the sixth seal earthquake and men's hearts will be full of terror; only to be replaced with an attitude of fighting against God after adulation and servitude with the ownership of the Revelation 13 Beast.
We can be assured that God will not allow full fruition of Satan's master plan until after the Rapture; and that He will stop total annihilation of all life on earth by shortening this time of unprecedented trouble; albeit with very few to survive into the Millennium and to live with the glorified saints at that time until more children are born to them. There can be no doubt that the world is hurtling at breakneck speed to achieve the globalist utopia. No matter how you slice it this place is going DOWN.
We should be grateful that the truth is coming out; that there is nothing hidden anymore as to the plans to screw up this world.
There are those who still hold onto the moral values of past generations; but we need to realize that apart from Christ's sanctifying work it is all a veneer and that we all are as Pharisees were described by Jesus as "dead men's bones". Yes we can see how the whole fabric of society breaks down when the law isn't followed but again that is only meant for unbelievers; those in Christ have the Spirit in them and only they can actually love the law as Psalm 119 expresses in the longest chapter in scripture. Maranatha; Lord come soon.
Agape; Rich P
I did mean to say that despite appearance I do NOT believe the seals are open because it appears Christ personally opens it and we will also be in the number when it is asked who is worthy to open them and will be very sad as John was then rejoice at the victory of the Lamb.
I mentioned in a post about a couple weeks back that the blood can be seen in space in Nigeria as well as Sudan (apparently especially near Darfur). This is a result of massacres mainly of Christians although some Muslims are likely mixed in as well.
In one hand; if we look at what went on during the Middle Ages and much of Muslim history especially in areas in Indonesia; India and surrounding lands countless millions were slaughtered at that time as well. We have all the inquisitions and other persecution in Europe of that time as well.
Considering all the other signs going on; it would seem that the seals are opened or that the birth pangs at least could encompass a time immediately before the Tribulation when it no doubt intensifies. It does seem that there is some differentiation with those who die in Christ and are present with the Lord with those who temporarily remain under the throne which seem to be Tribulation saints. Nonetheless we can certainly see shades of what is to come; although the restrainer is still holding back total destruction as the gates of hell don't prevail overall against the church; as some escepe and continue to spread the Gospel and some see martyrs die and eventually come themselves even as persecutors to the faith. This seems less likely during the Tribulation in my mind as well.
As I said recently it seems that this whole economic obsession with artificial intelligence and supercomputers in general is about to be an economic bubble about to burst; if for any reason to consolidate the market to one system the Antichrist Beast can utilize. The economic collapse no doubt will bring in one world currency and also I would predict consolidate that from numerous versions today to gain control. I never thought of the parable of the talents in regard to actual money but if we don't invest wisely we could end up with nothing; again let us invest our money; time and talents for heavenly treasure.
Unfortunately, as Christians, we take hold of certain beliefs and practises seen in the Bible and then confidently apply it to our lives and profession, whether rightly or wrongly. The Scriptures you shared are indeed the true nature of the one who is truly in Christ and we must allow the Holy Spirit to develop and mature us into the Image of Christ, which can take much time & crucifying of the flesh.
But some believers may also read those same verses in agreement but also read many other instances of God's condemnation of Israel and the nations; one such is in Amos 2:1-3 (the nations: Moab), and in Amos 2:4-8 (of Judah). So, in their thinking, if God can be violently against such for their many sins (via the prophet's voice), why shouldn't we stand tall, be bold and vocal, and condemn others today for engaging in godless pursuits?
I also don't believe any good can come from this sort of behavior, rather Christ's name and His people will be spat upon. Titus 3:2,3, as you quoted, would instruct us well in this matter. Even to follow the Apostle Paul's manner in this: he 'reasoned' with the people (be it the Jews ( Acts 18:19) or Gentiles ( Acts 24:24,25). Screaming at and belittling the unsaved does great damage to Christ's Name and the Gospel; but entering into clear, concise, reasoned discussion may cause the wayward to reconsider his life and ways & not make him resistant to the Gospel that can save him. Blessings.
The crux of the matter in regard to selling all we have; giving to the poor and following Christ is having our life be centered on Christ's mission and the Body of believers we found ourselves surrounded by. I have known brothers in the Lord who saw no need for Life Insurance (albeit by someone who used to work in that industry and no doubt was jaded); and others who would live uncomfortably cold in order to save money for their family upon their death. There is indeed an advantage to selling everything to keep us from focusing on any further earthly investments especially if they have no one else to take care of. For some that can mean downsizing; or perhaps keeping their home but opening it up for other believers to stay when travelling and selling any valuables rather than passing it down.
This presents the question of having any resources for future shortages; particularly food being saved; but perhaps some precious metal; etc. The most efficient means for the first is rotating and using up stuff that by the expiration date to avoid waste and giving it to those in need now. As far as gold and silver are concerned we need to consider the warnings of the last days in James and in Isaiah when it will tarnish and be cast away as worthless. What is most important is a heart issue here; and no doubt earthly treasures take up an inordinate amount of time and our affections can be turned away from the Lord; hence we certainly want to learn what Solomon did before learning the hard way not to accrue large amounts of wealth or put our faith in them having a certain future value.
The poor as Jesus said will always be with us; and there is no end to charities requests for funds. We need to be steadfast and unmovable keeping what we have committed to the Lord and entrusting anything we have left in His hands as it all is His and we can't take it with us when we leave this earth.
Agape. RP
Luke 18:22 22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Luke 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
The first two passages apply to a rich man who claimed to have followed the law; no doubt not at God's standards but nonetheless the main issue was his covetous heart related to possessions. The last passage was Jesus talking with His Disciples about His providing basic food and clothing needs (again; as I have emphasized before shelter even for Christ was a nomadic transient thing given His type of ministry).
Considering the meaning here we have to observe the whole pattern of valuing God over family; as Jesus Himself demonstrated when stating "who is my mother and brother ( Matt. 12:58); and then in the next two verses explains that the Disciples are such.
What we can't say is that Jesus wants us to forego all sources of work or financial plans. Jesus Himself worked for most of His adult life before the last few years of ministry; and Paul would provide for himself making tents; and also commended some wealthy women who were beneficial in the ministry. Money was to be set aside the first day of the week; etc.
I can also look in my own life to the house I own; legally I can't sell it even if I wanted to as it is in my Dad's name even though it goes to me when he passes.
What is clear to me is that all of our money should in the present and future plans be planned to support the Lord; in my case I don't have any children to support. Once we "retire" all our time should focus on ministry as health allows.
but
JESUS LOVES Y'ALL!!!!!
A Christian street evangelist was demonstrating outside a city amphitheater. He was part of a group of individuals heckling concert goers through a megaphone, calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels."
Taking the above into consideration, it does not appear that the two quotes are compatible by any rational standard.
There is a contingent of Christians, at least in name, who have arrived at a biblically skewed conclusion that the ministry of the Gospel of Christ Jesus includes harassing, denigrating, insulting, and otherwise badgering the lost. This attitude could not be further from our biblical calling.
The Bible provides precise instructions on how to conduct ourselves when occupied in the ministry of the Gospel: preaching, witnessing, and otherwise engaging with the lost. None of which includes calling them "whores," "sissies," and "Jezebels." The servant of the Lord must:
Not Strive
Be Gentle
Be Apt to Teach
Be Patient
In Meekness Instructing
Titus 3:2-3 To SPEAK EVIL OF NO MAN, to be NO BRAWLERS, but GENTLE, shewing all MEEKNESS unto all men. 3For WE OURSELVES ALSO were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy,
Would you have received the Gospel being harassed, denigrated, insulted, and badgered? It is reminiscent of the Inquisition, not the love and grace of God.
Philippians 1:27 Only LET YOUR CONVERSATION BE AS IT BECOMETH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST that ye STAND FAST IN ONE SPIRIT, WITH ONE MIND STRIVING TOGETHER FOR THE FAITH OF THE GOSPEL;
To be of one mind, we all have to follow the same rules.
Colossians 3:14 And above all these things PUT ON CHARITY, which is the bond of perfectness.
James 2:8 IF YE FULFIL THE ROYAL LAW according to the scripture, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF,...
For example, the seals in Chapter Six reference the six millennia of man upon the earth. They also reference the saints to be resurrected. And the power transfers from God to Jesus, to the angel, to John, then to the beast and his false prophet, and lastly to the 144,000.
There are other things the Chapter Six seals reference to a lesser degree, one of which is the three judgments that are primarily stated in Verse 6:4 and set to the following chiasmus:
"And there went out another horse that was red:
...and power was given to him that sat thereon
.....to take peace from the earth,
...and that they should kill one another:
and there was given unto him a great sword."
An interesting thing about chiasmi in scripture is that the Savior is often the center. Not always, but perhaps fifty percent of the time. Thus, the center is saying "to take the Savior from the earth." This is the harvest of saints. The result is that the people of the world will "kill one another" because the followers of Christ are gone. In consequence of this killing, the Lord will give the angel, who is the rider of the red horse, a great sword. This sword was the bow in Rev. 6:2. The Savior had this bow in his hand when he was given authority over the book and the seals in Rev. 5:7. Although the bow is called by a series of names in Rev. 5:6.
Thus, the Savior gives the angel the bow now called the sword. Then the angel gives power and authority to the next in line, which is John ( Rev. 1:1). Therefore, John is the rider of the black horse. Rev. 6:5-6 explains how John will conduct himself with this power and authority. We see this entire chain of events unfolding in Rev. 10. It shows that the seals and trumpets contain much of the same information.
Many of Charles Spurgeon's books are available in audio and narrated by other people.
There's no recordings of Spurgeon himself.
C H Spurgeon's material is from the midst 1800's.
I'll post some more of his material and some of his books this weekend.
God bless
In general I think we could talk to people about God's love . That there is a God who doesn't live up there in the distant space just watching us from above, but there is a God who is down here on earth next to us, close to us and to our lives. Who is interested in our lives, ready to help when we ask Him, who can guide our lives, who takes care of us. That there is eternal life and eternal hell. That we are still sinners, regardless of whether we commit small or big sins. And that we need faith in Jesus to get rid of them. We need to repent for our sins. Explain them what Jesus' sacrifice means. Most people do not know why faith in Jesus saves. These things about God's love for people.
But all of this, if the Spirit doesn't give you words, will be just words that don't affect people. The Spirit knows people's hearts. He knows what their problems are, their interests, their pursuits, their needs. And He knows the words that will touch their hearts. So always pray before you speak to people. And always be in prayer mode. I would add fasting occasionally or before you decide to talk to someone. Maybe that last one sounds like a lot, but this is what will make the difference. Fasting and praying before you talk to people. This is what I would do. Blessings
Tell Spencer you should make your series a book
is your mother dealing with lower neck pain?
Did your father get electric shock yesterday?
I have approached relatives regarding The Gospel. However, I struggle to know how to bring up the subject with someone I don't know well. I was praying about this today, and here was your post! Would you share any thoughts on how to do this? Other than waiting on the Holy Spirit to guide me, I have no idea. Anyone else reading this with advice, please respond as well. Thank you so much, and God bless you!
It is true that our Lord is always with us and when all others fail us, He never does.
It can be a lonely time when we are tried by difficulties and painful circumstances, but seeing these times as opportunities to lean into Christ for comfort, love, company, direction, wisdom, and strength to continue to follow him despite what confronts us will bring us to a place of holy struggle with our circumstance with the Lord, our vanguard, walking through the valley of evil, distress, loneliness, and/or other aspects of a situation that we cannot bear alone. He is our burden bearer, our sin bearer, our strong fortress, our calm in the storms of life. Thankfully!
The above means that if Jesus had not died on the cross, He alone would had remained, without saving anyone to Himself.
Jesus went all the way to the end, without abandoning us. Had He given up during the crucifixion, we would had been lost forever. So He patiently endured the pain. He patiently suffered the nails in His body. Because He had a vision in His mind. He saw the future. He saw us all in His Kingdom, happy with Him forever.
I once wondered. What was in Jesus' mind during the crucifixion? What could He have been thinking? Was He thinking of His palaces in Heaven that He left behind? Maybe the other two persons of the Godhead? Maybe His life there before He became one of us? Maybe His angels? Maybe the pain? No, nothing like that. He was thinking of me and you and you... all of us. He gave Himself courage, as if He were saying to Himself, "Endure my soul a little longer, for John, endure my soul a little longer for Mary, endure my soul a little longer for David, endure a liitle bit for.." In His mind were all of the faces of ours. And He did not want to lose a single one of us. So He endured to the end.
Similarly, are we willing to endure the pain, the nails, the cross to save others? It is not easy. We have to accept ridicule, insults, bullying and so many other things from people of the world who will sometimes try to make our lives a nightmare. But are we willing to suffer to the end? Some of them will never believe, but some will be influenced and attracted to Jesus after seeing our holy behavior.
So? Will you endure the nails to save your wife, your husband, your relative, your friend, your neighbor, your collegue? God will give the grace to bear. But the decision is yours. If you decide not crucify yourself you will be left on your own, just you, noone else.
Yes you can purchase Charles H Spurgeon books on line or listen to some audio books.
Blessings.
What would Jesus do if that happened to his friend?
Would he leave it alone? NO!
Would he heal it? YES!
I have a question for you. Do you see your nephew getting healed? if so I, will pray.